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[Super-Fly]

I do feel bad for the victims families, but nowadays
nothing suprises me where govenments are concerned

Thanks, look forward to seeing what others have to say.

[Jeffertonturner]

Again I say I don't normally get involved with conspiracy topics and I know the insults wil be coming but, this story just feels wrong. But like I always say to others, not everything has to be a conspiracy, right?

[gnostic-deity]

um wow. ok. lets make the whole thing a conspiracy, shall we... not saying it is or isnt true, but jeeze, id hope not. and wow just wow lol

[Czero 101]

Coffey, on 24 July 2012 - 09:30 PM, said:

Lone?

Well that's not what the people who where there are saying.

Someone opened the Emergancy exit for him to enter and others are saying another Gun man came formt eh other way throwing a second cannister.

I'm not saying there is a conspiracy but if people who where actually there and know more than me or you are syaing there was 2 or 3 people involved then we aren't exacvtly hearing an accurate report fromt he media are we?

The police in Colorado have officially said that there is no "second person of interest", you know that, right?




Cz

[Coffey]

Czero 101, on 24 July 2012 - 11:45 PM, said:

The police in Colorado have officially said that there is no "second person of interest", you know that, right?




Cz

So the police are saying this, when there is VIDEO footage of the people who where actually in the cinema... Saying otherwise?! LOL Fair enough the police said it, the police have a bad track record for not telling the truth. I'll beleive the people who where actually there thanks.

Just to prove my point, the police said Ruby Eugine WAS on "Bath Salts" when he chewed that poor homeless guys face off... Yet after the toxicology reports from 2 seperate labs shown that he had no "bath salts" in his system, they denied ever mentioned "Bath Salts"..........

Edited by Coffey, 24 July 2012 - 11:51 PM.

[TheCelt]

Czero 101, on 24 July 2012 - 11:45 PM, said:

The police in Colorado have officially said that there is no "second person of interest", you know that, right?

Cz

Correct Cz, but I suppose if something was going on why would they report anything different?

[_Only]

Karlis, on 24 July 2012 - 11:04 PM, said:

Authorities suggest he came through a side door. If so, how did he know the door would be unlocked? After a few months of meticulous planning, he simply hoped it would be?

What part of meticulous planning has to do with simply hoping about things? I thought meticulous planning would involve assuring a way to get through a door through careful planning and execution, like the rest of the event. So if the author doesn't know yet how one aspect was completed, it is a grand conspiracy?

What a joke. But no one's laughing.

The underground fear campaign continues.

Edited by _Only, 24 July 2012 - 11:58 PM.

[Tmars78]

Babe Ruth, on 24 July 2012 - 06:55 PM, said:

Obviously, you are exactly right on that point.

I am still neutral on whether this guy was acting entirely on his own, or if he was some sort of MKUltra creature.

If we ever get to see his medical history, that might shed light on the matter.  Some are saying he was taking heavy Vicodin, but who knows at this point? Not I.

Trust me Vicodin had nothing to do with it. I have abused painkillers for years, Vicodin included. Never once have I had the urge to shoot something up. Well unless CoD counts.

[Junior Chubb]

Strange article/blog Karlis, thanks for posting it.

I do not believe it is was a covert op', but I would say that the nature of the event can make it difficult to disagree with popular opinion. I think this is what the article/blog is about, disagreeing with popular opinion.

Just looking at what was quoted though...

Karlis, on 24 July 2012 - 11:04 PM, said:

How did the shooter get into the theater? Clad in black, wearing body armor, carrying several weapons, he buys a ticket and walks in with everyone else? Authorities suggest he came through a side door. If so, how did he know the door would be unlocked? After a few months of meticulous planning, he simply hoped it would be?

It was a Batman film, there is always a chance of someone turning up 'in costume' at a showing of a film with a cult following. All sorts show turn up at Star wars screenings in full 'body armour'.
Have you ever been frisked going to the cinema? Their biggest worry is usually making sure phones are switched off.

I used to sneak in the side door (well it was an exit) to watch films quite regularly as a youngster.

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After killing scores of people and wounding others, the first-time shooter was calm? How could this be? Well, drugs would enter the equation. What drugs? Vicodin. Others? Where were these drugs obtained? Who wrote the prescriptions? Where is the doctor? Why have we heard nothing about a doctor? What, exactly, going back into childhood, is Holmes’ pharmaceutical history?

Shock? I was calm as a cucumber after being involved in a fatal road traffic accident, seeing the dead body seemed to have no immediate effect on me. But it still haunts me, years later.

If drugs are involved, is it really that hard to get hold of them? No not really or they wouldn't be the problem that they are.

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One oddity about the investigation of the killings: the FBI presence is minimal. We don’t know what the FBI is doing behind the scenes, but by contrast, in the 1999 Columbine massacre the FBI was all over the scene in a very visible way. They interviewed witnesses, processed evidence, and made public statements. Here, they’re in the background. Why?

I don't think this is ranks (not a great choice of words, sorry) with the Columbine massacre, so the FBI presence would not be as noticeable.

A lot of the other statements in the article/blog can be dismissed by the confusion of 12 people being murdered (in a dark environment with firearms).

Its great that people challenge what they see and hear in the media, but I think the article is well off the mark.

Edited by Junior Chubb, 25 July 2012 - 12:32 AM.

[Czero 101]

Coffey, on 24 July 2012 - 11:51 PM, said:

So the police are saying this, when there is VIDEO footage of the people who where actually in the cinema... Saying otherwise?! LOL Fair enough the police said it, the police have a bad track record for not telling the truth. I'll beleive the people who where actually there thanks.

Got a legitimate source for that video or is it just a rumor being spread by those who want to try and link this to some ludicrous conspiracy...?







Cz

[Czero 101]

Karlis, on 24 July 2012 - 11:04 PM, said:

WERE THE BATMAN MURDERS A COVERT OP?

By Jon Rappoport
July 24, 2012

[Some of the questions Jon Rappoport raises are]:
How did the shooter get into the theater? Clad in black, wearing body armor, carrying several weapons, he buys a ticket and walks in with everyone else? Authorities suggest he came through a side door. If so, how did he know the door would be unlocked? After a few months of meticulous planning, he simply hoped it would be?

I'm sorry, but the author of this article obviously has done next to zero research on this topic.

All the coverage so far has said that Holmes went to the theatre, bought a ticket, went in and sat by the emergency exit (which, btw, generally aren't locked from the inside). At a certain time he went out through the exit, propped it ajar with something, went to his car that he had parked near the exit, got into his body armour, got his guns and went back in through the propped open door.

No conspiracies... no "hoping it was unlocked"... and no research by Mr. Rappoport....






Cz

[Coffey]

Czero 101, on 25 July 2012 - 12:04 AM, said:

Got a legitimate source for that video or is it just a rumor being spread by those who want to try and link this to some ludicrous conspiracy...?







Cz

I wonder if these videos will "disappear". lol

Edited by Coffey, 25 July 2012 - 12:24 AM.

[Coffey]

Czero 101, on 25 July 2012 - 12:11 AM, said:

I'm sorry, but the author of this article obviously has done next to zero research on this topic.

All the coverage so far has said that Holmes went to the theatre, bought a ticket, went in and sat by the emergency exit (which, btw, generally aren't locked from the inside). At a certain time he went out through the exit, propped it ajar with something, went to his car that he had parked near the exit, got into his body armour, got his guns and went back in through the propped open door.

No conspiracies... no "hoping it was unlocked"... and no research by Mr. Rappoport....






Cz

Wrong, the guy who got up and opened the door was on his cell phone. He did not leave the actual theatre. He waved to someone from the door then came back into the cinema..... (check the first vid I posted) That is what witnesses are saying. Then Holmes kicked open the door he then through a gas canistar across the room. Then witnesses rport someone throwing another gas canister from a different direction. (check the 2nd video I posted)

Edited by Coffey, 25 July 2012 - 12:22 AM.

[Czero 101]

Coffey, on 25 July 2012 - 12:19 AM, said:

Wrong

Perhaps I should have said "All the coverage so far except for one witness on a phone to CNN and one witness in a video who assumes there was someone else inside"... That's probably more correct.

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the guy who got up and opened the door was on his cell phone. He did not leave the actual theatre. He waved to someone from the door then came back into the cinema..... (check the first vid I posted) That is what witnesses are saying.

No... That is what one witness is saying.

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Then Holmes kicked open the door he then through a gas canistar across the room. Then witnesses rport someone throwing another gas canister from a different direction. (check the 2nd video I posted)

No... That is what one witness is saying.

You do realize that the two people in the videos could be mistaken, don't you? Or are they right simply because they lend credence to a theory you personally support...?

Coffey, on 25 July 2012 - 12:17 AM, said:

[I wonder if these videos will "disappear". lol

I've saved copies of them.





Cz

Edited by Czero 101, 25 July 2012 - 12:45 AM.

[booNyzarC]

Coffey, on 24 July 2012 - 09:30 PM, said:

Lone?

Well that's not what the people who where there are saying.

Someone opened the Emergancy exit for him to enter and others are saying another Gun man came formt eh other way throwing a second cannister.

I'm not saying there is a conspiracy but if people who where actually there and know more than me or you are syaing there was 2 or 3 people involved then we aren't exacvtly hearing an accurate report fromt he media are we?

As far as I'm aware it went down as described by Cz.  He bought a ticket, sat by the exit, went out the exit and propped it open, loaded up at his car, and came back in.  All by himself.

I'll watch the videos you've posted, but so far it does appear to be as simple as that.