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#16    pallidin

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 07:47 PM

I sure hope there are "ghosts" and such, else my pointless life is even more pointless. :passifier:


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Posted 22 July 2012 - 07:50 PM

View PostSheep Say Meep, on 22 July 2012 - 07:43 PM, said:

But what kind of energy? Their thoughts? Emotions? And how can these remain, and become separate from the body?

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And to your question. If I'd be able to answer you, I'll be like the most famous explorer of all time. My theory - it's remain of spirit that I believe we have.


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Posted 22 July 2012 - 07:52 PM

View PostSheep Say Meep, on 22 July 2012 - 07:46 PM, said:

Still... what would that intelligent thing/ entity be? Are you thinking extradimensional? extraterrestrial?
Perhaps extradimensional would be the best word; some kind of intelligence that exists alongside us all the time, but only from time to time kind of intersects with our world. This might also be what people referred to as 'fairies' in the old days or the 'little people'. I'm thinking kind of along the lines of the idea that we know there's only a certain spectrum of light that we can see, or sound that we can hear; what if it's the same with reality?

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 07:52 PM

View Postpallidin, on 22 July 2012 - 07:47 PM, said:

I sure hope there are "ghosts" and such, else my pointless life is even more pointless. :passifier:

Life is pointless, regardless if there's a form of life after death. We're born, we spend most of our lives trying to survive in a cruel world, then we die :D

Once in a while some one will think their life has meaning because they contribute to society. But in the end, the human race will eventually become extinct, and everything we have strived for will be left behind to gather dust (or be destroyed if something happens to the planet, like a giant meteor or whatevah)


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Posted 22 July 2012 - 07:55 PM

View Post747400, on 22 July 2012 - 07:52 PM, said:

Perhaps extradimensional would be the best word; some kind of intelligence that exists alongside us all the time, but only from time to time kind of intersects with our world. This might also be what people referred to as 'fairies' in the old days or the 'little people'. I'm thinking kind of along the lines of the idea that we know there's only a certain spectrum of light that we can see, or sound that we can hear; what if it's the same with reality?

Unfortunately, I don't know much about other dimensions or fairies... but its an interesting idea that we can't understand all of reality from a human perspective.


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Posted 22 July 2012 - 08:14 PM

View PostSheep Say Meep, on 22 July 2012 - 07:52 PM, said:

Life is pointless, regardless if there's a form of life after death. We're born, we spend most of our lives trying to survive in a cruel world, then we die :D

Once in a while some one will think their life has meaning because they contribute to society. But in the end, the human race will eventually become extinct, and everything we have strived for will be left behind to gather dust (or be destroyed if something happens to the planet, like a giant meteor or whatevah)
hey its happy time lets paarrtay, oh hang on i'll go get the cyanide being as life is so pointless, bloody hell cheer up

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 08:26 PM

View Postfran123, on 22 July 2012 - 07:36 PM, said:

I think if you take your own life, in other words go before you are meant to, then you are more likely to remain in some form or other, obviously not as a living person. I have experienced a haunting myself, caused by a suicide, and from what I have heard this is not uncommon. Anyone else had a simliar experience?

I haven't had a similar experience, but I'd love to hear about yours if you are willing to share it (and not to tear it to pieces, sweetie; I have a very open mind).

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 08:38 PM

I think I believe in ghosts. I sort of believe the ghost of my dead cat still lingers around in my house.

Those who die in a violent or unexpected way seem to leave ghosts of themselves around. That would be my answer to the OP's question.

It must be boring being a ghost, though. They seem to do the same thing over and over.

As for this being a pointless life... I think the point is to have children so they can have pointless lives. This is a sort of revenge in a way, and makes us feel better. No one likes to suffer alone.

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 08:38 PM

View Postcenobite, on 22 July 2012 - 08:14 PM, said:

hey its happy time lets paarrtay, oh hang on i'll go get the cyanide being as life is so pointless, bloody hell cheer up

being cynical doesn't make me depressed... I'm quite happy for the most part.


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Posted 22 July 2012 - 08:43 PM

View PostStarMountainKid, on 22 July 2012 - 08:38 PM, said:

I think I believe in ghosts. I sort of believe the ghost of my dead cat still lingers around in my house.

Those who die in a violent or unexpected way seem to leave ghosts of themselves around. That would be my answer to the OP's question.

It must be boring being a ghost, though. They seem to do the same thing over and over.

I agree that those who die violently or unexpectedly seem to leave ghosts of themselves... thats exactly why I suggested that there might be a mess up in the final transfer of energy in the moment of death, which would leave behind a "ghost". I really wish I could do some sort of scientific experiment to prove this, or the existence of ghosts, but I really don't know how I'd accomplish that.

Also, the fact that many ghosts just do the same thing over and over adds to my theory that ghosts may not actually be entities who can think or have free will... they're just accidents if you will, when the exchange of energy is screwed up. But then that just raises more questions. What scews up the exchange of energy in violent and unexpected deaths?


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Posted 22 July 2012 - 08:52 PM

View Postcenobite, on 22 July 2012 - 08:14 PM, said:

hey its happy time lets paarrtay, oh hang on i'll go get the cyanide being as life is so pointless, bloody hell cheer up

Yeah, I think I should send a couple of nice, cold beers to Sheep Say Meep via email.


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Posted 22 July 2012 - 08:54 PM

guys, thinking life is pointless doesn't effect my happiness. google existentialism.


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Posted 22 July 2012 - 09:43 PM

View PostSheep Say Meep, on 22 July 2012 - 06:56 PM, said:

Would you be more likely to become a ghost if you died a certain way?
Why you want to be a ghost, its better to see whats up on the other side.

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Posted 22 July 2012 - 09:49 PM

@ Diablo_04, I didn't say I wanted to be a ghost, I was just curious...

It really bothers me that we still don't know what's on the other side (or if there really isn't anything). Not knowing, and not knowing how to find out really frustrates me >:(


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Posted 22 July 2012 - 09:49 PM

View PostSheep Say Meep, on 22 July 2012 - 08:54 PM, said:

guys, thinking life is pointless doesn't effect my happiness. google existentialism.

OK, well, since your life is pointless, send me all your money. :passifier:





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