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#271    Czero 101

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 06:10 PM

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Bill Clinton: Gun control opposition ‘is nuts’

By Eric W. Dolan
Wednesday, January 9, 2013 19:19 EST




Former President Bill Clinton on Wednesday said those who opposed gun control measures like banning the sale of high-capacity magazines were crazy.

“I grew up in the hunting culture, but this is nuts,” he said during a speech at the Consumer Electronics Show. “Why does anybody need a 30 round clip for a gun? Why does anybody need one of those things that carries 100 bullets? The guy in Colorado had one of those.”

“Half of all mass killings in the United States have occurred since the assault weapons ban expired in 2005,” Clinton continued. “Half, in all of the history of the country. So I hope that former Congresswoman Gabby Giffords (D-AZ) and other people who stepped up after the Newtown tragedy will have some impact on this.”

The former President also addressed the NRA’s proposal to prevent school shootings by hiring armed guards to patrol schools.

“There are going to need to be some armed guards in some schools where there is a higher crime rate and kids themselves may take weapons to school, absolutely, but it is not an excuse not to deal with this issue.”

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Edited by Czero 101, 10 January 2013 - 06:11 PM.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 07:14 PM

This is so true Czero ! Im all for Getting these weapons off the streets and out of the hands of the public. :tu:

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 07:22 PM

You still cant have my guns :gun:


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Posted 10 January 2013 - 07:23 PM

Of course he's going to call them crazy.  The "gun control argument" is intellectually bankrupt, as countless numbers of "gun control laws" are broken with every shooting there is.  Adding one more law will change nothing and stop nothing, and everybody knows it.

If "gun control" worked, however one may define it, there would be evidence that it has worked.  But there is no evidence that laws stop criminals or crazy people.

Still, the politicians pander to the emotional masses, and say "we're going to do something"

Who is kidding who here?  Call them crazy, say you're going to "do something", and the beat goes on.


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Posted 10 January 2013 - 08:22 PM

The 2nd amendment says nothing about hunting or a hunting culture.  It's about protecting freedom.


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Posted 10 January 2013 - 08:53 PM

View PostTwin, on 10 January 2013 - 08:22 PM, said:

The 2nd amendment says nothing about hunting or a hunting culture.  It's about protecting freedom.

You need a semi-auto AK-47 or AR-15 with a 100-round box mag to go hunting...? :huh:




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Posted 10 January 2013 - 09:07 PM

View PostCzero 101, on 10 January 2013 - 08:53 PM, said:

You need a semi-auto AK-47 or AR-15 with a 100-round box mag to go hunting...? :huh:




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Its the part like so many people have spoken here Like "BR" gun control LOL The way to control it is to Stop makeing Automatic assault waepons,and letting them onto the Streets. The public has no need what so ever for these in there bloody hands ! Get Some Balls America ! Stop this Insanity ! We will all be better off without them ! :gun: :no:

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 01:58 AM

@Czero 101  People that want to limit guns always bring up "not needing such guns for hunting" ( see Bill Clinton quote above).

The 2nd amendment has nothing to do with that argument.
The 2nd amendment is about freedom.


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Posted 11 January 2013 - 02:13 AM

Here's a true leader the unlimited guns folks can really get behind!  It's time to choose sides, and CEO James Yeager is YOUR man to represent real American values...

http://www.huffingto..._n_2448751.html





Or not...

Edited by hacktorp, 11 January 2013 - 02:36 AM.


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Posted 11 January 2013 - 02:29 AM

Yeah! great clip to prove your point.  All gun owners are like that guy.


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Posted 11 January 2013 - 02:39 AM

View PostTwin, on 11 January 2013 - 02:29 AM, said:

Yeah! great clip to prove your point. All gun owners are like that guy.

All gun manufacturers and their pimps are LOVING that guy.  Ain't freedom great?

Edited by hacktorp, 11 January 2013 - 02:55 AM.


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Posted 11 January 2013 - 02:41 AM

Most Gun owners are like  James Yeager ! Nuff said ! :tu:

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 03:53 AM

View PostDONTEATUS, on 11 January 2013 - 02:41 AM, said:

Most Gun owners are like  James Yeager ! Nuff said ! :tu:

And here I wuz thinkin' everbody frum Texas wuz gun toten, Bible thumpin' idjuts. :P

Edited by Michelle, 11 January 2013 - 03:53 AM.


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Posted 11 January 2013 - 03:56 AM

I feel this belong's in this thread as well:

Hardy, p. 1237. "Early Americans wrote of the right in light of three considerations: (1) as auxiliary to a natural right of self-defense; (2) as enabling an armed people to deter undemocratic government; and (3) as enabling the people to organize a militia system."

Malcolm, "That Every Man Be Armed," pp. 452, 466. "The Second Amendment reflects traditional English attitudes toward these three distinct, but intertwined, issues: the right of the individual to protect his life, the challenge to government of an armed citizenry, and the preference for a militia over a standing army. The framers' attempt to address all three in a single declarative sentence has contributed mightily to the subsequent confusion over the proper interpretation of the Second Amendment."

Merkel and Uviller, pp. 62, 179 ff, 183, 188 ff, 306. "[T]he right to bear arms was articulated as a civic right inextricably linked to the civic obligation to bear arms for the public defense."

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 04:33 AM

View PostTwin, on 11 January 2013 - 01:58 AM, said:

@Czero 101  People that want to limit guns always bring up "not needing such guns for hunting" ( see Bill Clinton quote above).

The 2nd amendment has nothing to do with that argument.
The 2nd amendment is about freedom.

Fair point... Apparently I misread the intent of your post.

Doesn't change my position or the position of many others that this whole debate is not about taking away people's right to own weapons, that military-grade weaponry should not be as easily available - if at all - to the general populace as it currently is, and that the 2nd as written over 200 years ago is out of date and needs to be addressed to be brought up to date with the current state and definitions of modern arms and armaments.





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Edited by Czero 101, 11 January 2013 - 04:41 AM.

"You can't convince a believer of anything; for their belief is not based on evidence, it's based on a deep seated need to believe..." - Carl Sagan
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"For it is the natural tendency of the ignorant to believe what is not true. In order to overcome that tendency it is not sufficient to exhibit the true; it is also necessary to expose and denounce the false." - H. L. Mencken




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