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Are birds as smart as a 7-year-old ?

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#1    Saru


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Posted 29 July 2012 - 10:03 AM

Studies in to bird intelligence have suggested that birds are just as intelligent as young children.

Zee News India said:

By pitting birds against boys and girls using tests inspired by the Aesop's fable in which a thirsty crow is able to drink from a pitcher after using pebbles to raise the water level to within its reach.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 10:13 AM

Just because birds have a naturally instinct towards a tool does not make them smart. Tool use is about adaptability. And they don't show that.

  Are birds smarter then 7 year olds because they know how to make a nest and kids don't?

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 10:14 AM

Interesting. Dogs are considered to be at the same level like three or four year olds. But why not, some birds are really bright. Not too sure if they're smart as seven year old child, though.

Edited by St. Jimmy, 29 July 2012 - 10:17 AM.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 02:04 PM

New TV game show, are you smarter than a bird?

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 04:30 PM

Does this mean we can't use the expression, 'bird brain' anymore?

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 06:52 PM

I know a whole family of people who aren't as smart as a bird's egg, let alone an adult bird.

Seriously, though...it doesn't surprise me that we are starting to understand we're not the only intelligent species on this planet. I just hope that with each realization of the intelligence of other species, we lose at least a tiny bit of our arrogance. (Not holding my breath, though...)

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 06:53 PM


Studies in to bird intelligence have suggested that birds are just as intelligent as young children.

Surely that is just sexist...

Edited by Junior Chubb, 29 July 2012 - 06:54 PM.

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 05:41 AM

There have been tons of experiments done to show avian intelligence.  Corvids in particular.  Crows have performed tasks involving tools that even some adults would have a hard time figuring out.  Using one tool to obtain another tool used to unlock another tool to obtain a reward.  It baffles my mind how they can figure that out.  Their brain to body mass ratio is way towards the top of the animal kingdom.  They may be smaller, but their brains work differently than that of a mammal.  In the future it may be the edge needed for avian world domination.  Even less intelligent birds like the pigeon have shown an amazing ability for remembering a large number of human faces.  Chickens will learn from observation, and surely everyone has heard of the crows in Japan who crack nuts by dropping them into traffic.  That's some darn fine adaptability.  Birds are smart.
  Sometimes people don't give animals enough credit, and sometimes people give children too much credit.  I bet if you gave both a chimp and a four year old child a box of crayons, the chimp would likely create something similar to Botticelli's Birth of Venus, and the child would likely end up with teeth full of colored wax.  Those are just my thoughts.

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 10:35 AM

I agree, we don't give animals enough credit for their intelligence and we give ourselves too much.

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 01:17 PM

Here's a video of a crow not just using a tool but making one. Correct me if i'm wrong but I think this is the only evidence of a non-human making a tool.


a laboratory crow named "Betty" improvised a hooked tool from a wire with no prior experience.[


Edited by DKO, 30 July 2012 - 01:19 PM.

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 01:24 PM

I once saw a video of a horse picking up a long stick and then trying to scratch it's back with it.

Edited by Spid3rCyd3, 30 July 2012 - 01:25 PM.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 02:13 AM

I guess they're more smarter than the autistic 7 year olds.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 02:33 AM

This is one of the most amazing birds I've ever seen.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 02:38 AM

View PostMrScioscia, on 31 July 2012 - 02:13 AM, said:

I guess they're more smarter than the autistic 7 year olds.

Why must you mention children with autism?..I don't know enough about autism in children, but I sure as heck wouldn't find it smart to slam them...

Edited by Beckys_Mom, 31 July 2012 - 03:22 AM.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 02:59 AM

So as someone who bred and raised birds, a LOT of them over the years, I can tell you that the accepted theory is that some breeds, can be as bright as a 4-7 year old child.

However, heres the big "gotcha" while they might have cognitive ability of a 4 to 7 year old... they rarely have the emotional stability of more than about a 2 year old. Use your own deductive reasoning to imagine the kinds of problems that may present. :D

Edited by MissMelsWell, 31 July 2012 - 03:00 AM.

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