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[Imaginarynumber1]

I was under the impression that whole the Rosecruian affair in the 1600's was a hoax.

[Daniel Ronnstam]

Regarding the code: This will be fully explained in my book after our expedition (new website will give info on this), but I can say that the reason this "code" have not been found before, what I know of, is that you need to combine text from two different publications that is seemingly completely unrelated, to open the solution to the code. Without this combination, the publications seem to be about ordinary subjects. The method of cloaking info this way can be called Steganography. I have evaluated results statistically and will present all in the book later.

Regarding the Rosicrucian: The theory that the Rosicrucian fraternity was a publicity stunt, or a hoax, is a valid theory as such, put forward by researchers like Tobias Churton and others. But it is a theory, as valid as the theory that there really where an invisible college called the Rosicrucian. I would like to suggest reading "The Rosicrucian enlightenment", by Dame Frances Yates. Yates research give strong indications that the writing of the Fama and Confessio can be linked to the English alchemist and philosopher Dr John Dee.

The result of my research both indirectly, and in an insinuative way, give the name "Rosiecross" to the designers of the Oak Island complex. This is what they call themselves in the coded information. Weither this group was the same that published the Fama and Confessio in Germany 1614 and 1615, I don't know, but there are indications that this is the case.

Edited by Daniel Ronnstam, 31 July 2012 - 11:07 AM.

[Painnsufferin]

"Yes.. I'm fully aware of the Da Vinci code parallels, which makes this a hard topic to communicate. Claimed facts are very easily taken for fiction.

But I'm a serious amateur historic cryptographer, not a novel writer. "

"Regarding the code: This will be fully explained in my book after our expedition (new website will give info on this)"

Are you here to plug a website and book or to discuss the topic with us? Your answers to posed questions point to published works or your site.  Maybe I am just failing to grasp the point.

[Daniel Ronnstam]

I have a small team and we are planning an expedition. We want the public to follow this expedition via videoblog, Thats why I put site info up here.

[Rob Awesome]

Having lived here all my life I'm still amazed that anyone can even dig 150 feet down anywhere in the province.  Bedrock, bedrock everywhere!

[PersonFromPorlock]

 Rob Awesome, on 31 July 2012 - 10:52 PM, said:

Having lived here all my life I'm still amazed that anyone can even dig 150 feet down anywhere in the province.  Bedrock, bedrock everywhere!

Edge of the continental glacier, so possibly there are some pretty deep deposits.

[BMan375032]

I'm going to call bull**** on this one. No answers really, just marketing for your book and website it sounds to me.

[Swede]

 Daniel Ronnstam, on 30 July 2012 - 08:56 AM, said:

Thanks for the interest. I will of course answer questions here on this forum. I have worked about 3 years on the Oak Island mystery, trying to find traces of the construction work in historic publications dating late 16th century. I found the cryptographic opening about 2 years ago. Since then I have been working most of my spare time on the code.

It is all explained on my website. A bit much text there right now, but the new website will be up in a few weeks with video lectures, much easier to follow, and more info. The source of the cement chamber at 153 feet in the "Money pit" as is the modern name, or the "Deep Folly", which is the designers own name of it, comes from various documents from 19th century auger drillings, collected in various books on Oak Island. The documents can be ordered from the Nova Scotia archives.

The Rosicrucians have buried for them important documents and artifacts, to their own organisation in the future as they felt they could not protect it in their times. The lifespan of Oak Island was probably not meant to be more than a 100 years. They have buried the "real" treasure deep, not on the Island, but in the area of Mahone Bay. The Island is a testing facility with the intent to sort out "unworthy" seekers, and the two vaults on the Island where built to hold maps of how to get to the real vault.

I know it sounds "Dan Brownish", but it is fact. I will explain it throughly in my book and possibly also a documentary. My team will conduct an expedition to Mahone Bay this autumn, to verify some of the info in the code.

Would you care to provide the specific citations referenced in the above?

As others have noted, your presence on these pages could be interpreted as a form of less-than-credible self-promotion. As has been evidenced through the relatively recent historical record, there quite a number of individuals/"organizations" who have attempted to profit from the "money pit".

Edit: Typo

Edited by Swede, 01 August 2012 - 12:13 AM.

[Comedian03]

I've lived here my entire life and still haven't made it to Oak Island yet lol. Still, I think it'd be awesome to get some new, intriguing, and credible information on Oak Island, it's always interested me every since I was a kid, even if it does turn out to be just a pit and nothing else, it's fun to speculate lol.

Edited by Comedian03, 01 August 2012 - 12:23 AM.

[Daniel Ronnstam]

Ok.. I will try to answer your questions. First.. the reason a put info here was be cause I thought people would get interested and read my website and then ask me questions on this forum. I'm not interested at this stage to sell a book (as there is no book yet), or to only promote my site. But I need public interest for the cause and the expedition, for a reason which will become evident on my new site.

The information regarding the "Money pit" design comes essentially from letters, news paper articles and correspondence from 19th century now in the archives of Nova Scotia records management. But they have been summed up in books like this. (not my book

Regarding the scam problem: I'm fully aware of people trying to make money out of this mystery from nothing. This is why I will present good enough cryptographic material on the new site that will prove I'm not one of them.

Thank you

[The_Spartan]

 Daniel Ronnstam, on 31 July 2012 - 11:04 AM, said:

Regarding the code: This will be fully explained in my book after our expedition (new website will give info on this), but I can say that the reason this "code" have not been found before, what I know of, is that you need to combine text from two different publications that is seemingly completely unrelated, to open the solution to the code. Without this

if you have do not have the idea of discussing your material here in detail, but is content to say  " will be fully explained in my book" which means we who  are interested to discuss should buy your book. am i right?

Why cant you discuss it over here in the U-M forums itself?

[Daniel Ronnstam]

I can of course discuss some of it, but not everything as I'm also tied up in a contract with the people for the expedition. Just ask something and we see where it leads... I like forum discussions, no problem.

[The_Spartan]

Questions.
other than the Rosicrucian mention, what text found on site are you referring to.
Is it specifically mentioned in the Rosicrucian text that it was The Oak Island Pit itself was mentioned?
i am not referring to the analysis of the The Mirror of the Wisdom of the Rosicrucians provided at the link in your website, but the original book itself. Is it specifically mentioned in words about The Oak Island Pit?
If not, on what basis do you substantiate the act of relating texts in a book that suits a particular characteristic of a particular object as truth or fact?

[The_Spartan]

Quote

Chapter 1, You must pass one of two examinations, Mercy
point or the Deep Folly (the Money pit): ”Though the brethren call
the "venite" (come) with sweet trumpets, Iulianus de Campus
(Julianus in the eld) stands with the sword, and thou must undergo
his examination, wherefore beware. If thou pass not the examination
and hast a bad conscience neither bridge (possibly an allegory for
Mercy sephirot in the swamp) nor rope (to lower into the Deep Folly,
the Money pit) shall avail (be useful) thee. If thou comest high, high
shall be thy fall, and thou must die and spoil in the pit (Deep Folly, the
Money pit, greed will consume the seeker) of errors and opinions.”

A Deep Folly can be anywhere in the world. Equating a text in a book of dubious origins to  The Oak Island itself is something far fetched.
and you  or all of you  basing your cryptographic analysis on a possible allegory?? is it worth it? the expedition?

[The_Spartan]

Why dont you  try to use your "formidable" cryptoanalytical knowledge to work out the meaning of the inscriptions on the Oak Island Flagstone rather than find allegorical mentions of words and relate it to the pit?



Try doing something that aint allegorically related to the pit but something that's already there.
Try decrypting the stone.