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[Karlis]

Hijab controversy simmers at Olympics

Unlike the Olympics with its gold, silver and bronze, life sometimes dishes up events in which nobody feels like a winner.
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What are your thoughts about cultural aspects in the Olympic Games?

[The New Richard Nixon]

I don't see this is a problem, in the end they are here to be at the games.

[itsnotoutthere]

In judo, the rules allow for opponents to tug & pull on each others clothing. What happens if her opponent pulls her hijab over her face & then lands her on her a**?
I'm gonna watch, it could just turn out to be the funniest moment in olympic history.

[hetrodoxly]

Just a farce she did fight but shouldn't have been aloud to on the grounds of not being competent she only holds a blue belt and was beaten in 82 seconds.

[itsnotoutthere]

hetrodoxly, on 03 August 2012 - 07:41 PM, said:

Just a farce she did fight but shouldn't have been aloud to on the grounds of not being competent she only holds a blue belt and was beaten in 82 seconds.

In that case it makes you wonder if this wasn't just pure tokenism.

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

Or it might actually be a sort of internal Saudi propaganda "look, women aren't meant to play sport, look at this poor girl - trounced at every turn".

[odas]

Hetro and isno. In Bosnia we have a say: for a small di#k even the pubic hair is in the way.
This is ment for people who seem to never be satisfied for ignorant reasons.
The girl did not wear a full hijab, it does not interween with the judo rules. She did not qualifie but was invited by the OC which is unlike you two quties above hate and ignorance. Most important it opens up the way for other women from stricked ruled islamic countries. One has to start somehow.
Even you english ladies had to suck up for centuries before they were finaly libarated from male oppression.

[libstaK]

Wearer of Hats, on 03 August 2012 - 11:03 PM, said:

Or it might actually be a sort of internal Saudi propaganda "look, women aren't meant to play sport, look at this poor girl - trounced at every turn".

Not sure they can say that exactly - given it was another woman who trounced her.  Maybe they could say "their" women are not meant to play sport, which would be ridiculous and sad all at once.

[Helen of Annoy]

It would be against the rules to tug her hijab, just like it’s against the rules to tug the opponent by the hair, nose, ears or their long, lashing tongue that cannot utter words “fair play” anymore.

[hetrodoxly]

odas, on 04 August 2012 - 01:04 AM, said:

Hetro and isno. In Bosnia we have a say: for a small di#k even the pubic hair is in the way.
This is ment for people who seem to never be satisfied for ignorant reasons.
The girl did not wear a full hijab, it does not interween with the judo rules. She did not qualifie but was invited by the OC which is unlike you two quties above hate and ignorance. Most important it opens up the way for other women from stricked ruled islamic countries. One has to start somehow.
Even you english ladies had to suck up for centuries before they were finaly libarated from male oppression.

Nonsense "is it cus i black" post, having her fight the best people in the world was humiliating for all concerned, the best course of action would be to have her train with other women.

[itsnotoutthere]

If this type of amateurism is now encouraged at the olympics again perhaps we can look forward to a comeback by Eddie the Eagle.

[Helen of Annoy]

hetrodoxly, on 04 August 2012 - 11:03 AM, said:

Nonsense "is it cus i black" post, having her fight the best people in the world was humiliating for all concerned, the best course of action would be to have her train with other women.

Can I cut in a little, if you don't mind?


No, it’s not “cus i black” post, it’s “cus you are armchair generals, or to be more precise, you’re armchair doctors of judo science” post.
First you train judo, obtain blue belt, win a match at Olympics, then you can say what’s the best course of action for an amateur striving for more.

Since when it’s humiliating to lose a match? Or to win it if you were better?
What’s wrong in inviting people to participate, though they are not good enough (yet) to win?

Also, if I want to fight someone wearing a scarf on my head or a flower behind my ear that’s my problem. If I want a bucket on my head or oversized crucifix pendant, then it is a problem, because that is a safety risk.
Grow a common sense people.

[odas]

itsnotoutthere, on 04 August 2012 - 11:20 AM, said:

If this type of amateurism is now encouraged at the olympics again perhaps we can look forward to a comeback by Eddie the Eagle.

Helloooooo, nock nock, anyone home?
Olympics is about participating. Giving a chance to those who otherwise do not have a chance, like the UK womens soccer team against Canada.

[hetrodoxly]

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No, it’s not “cus i black” post, it’s “cus you are armchair generals, or to be more precise, you’re armchair doctors of judo science” post.
First you train judo, obtain blue belt, win a match at Olympics, then you can say what’s the best course of action for an amateur striving for more.

What does you're opinion make you? you think you're opinion is more valid than mine?

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Since when it’s humiliating to lose a match? Or to win it if you were better?
What’s wrong in inviting people to participate, though they are not good enough (yet) to win?

This is the olympics not a local judo club if just anyone could enter it would be a complete farce.

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Also, if I want to fight someone wearing a scarf on my head or a flower behind my ear that’s my problem. If I want a bucket on my head or oversized crucifix pendant, then it is a problem, because that is a safety risk.

As long as it's in the rules i don't care.

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Grow a common sense people

if you're not doing anything this afternoon, why not go and have a jog with Hussein bolt.

[hetrodoxly]

odas, on 04 August 2012 - 12:38 PM, said:

Helloooooo, nock nock, anyone home?
Olympics is about participating. Giving a chance to those who otherwise do not have a chance, like the UK womens soccer team against Canada.

odas, on 04 August 2012 - 12:38 PM, said:

Helloooooo, nock nock, anyone home?
Olympics is about participating. Giving a chance to those who otherwise do not have a chance, like the UK womens soccer team against Canada.

Canada played well congratulations to them, GB got knocked out just like Brazil, Spain etc, how did your country do?