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#886    WHO U KIDDIN

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 09:52 PM

View Postskyeagle409, on 16 October 2012 - 09:23 PM, said:

It shows just how easy it is to plant false and misleading information that 9/11 conspiracist have used in their arguments because they did not know the rest of the story, which is why I have told you not to let those conspiracy websites poison your mind.

So investigated reporting by a major Main Stream Media outlet like the BBC is still conspriracy spin? Did you watch the video clip?


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Posted 16 October 2012 - 09:59 PM

Sky think about it... a very wise man from NYC once said:

'Governments don't want a population capable of critical thinking. They want obedient workers, people just smart enough to run the machines and just dumb enough to passively accept their situation"
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Posted 16 October 2012 - 10:01 PM

View PostWHO U KIDDIN, on 16 October 2012 - 09:52 PM, said:

So investigated reporting by a major Main Stream Media outlet like the BBC is still conspriracy spin? Did you watch the video clip?

Isn't it interesting that when the "MSM" puts out something that apparently supports or conforms to CT's preconceived notions, its factual, unbiased, believable investigative reporting spreading The Real, Honest-To-GoodnessTruth™, yet when they put out something that contradicts the CT's positions, its biased, Government manipulation for controlling the masses of sheeple out there....



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Posted 16 October 2012 - 10:05 PM

View PostWHO U KIDDIN, on 16 October 2012 - 09:52 PM, said:

So investigated reporting by a major Main Stream Media outlet like the BBC is still conspriracy spin? Did you watch the video clip?

Yes I did, and you must remember, that doesn't exonerate the news services as evident in the bad reporting concerning United 93 and Cleveland airport. It is no secret that the United States did not want the Soviets to gain a foothold in Afghanistan, so what better way to block them than to let the  Afghan Mujahideen insurgents do the job for the United States, so our support was for the Afghan Mujahideen.

What you are doing is confusing Afghan Mujahideen with the Afgan Arabs, which are two different groups.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 10:10 PM

View PostWHO U KIDDIN, on 16 October 2012 - 09:59 PM, said:

Sky think about it... a very wise man from NYC once said:

'Governments don't want a population capable of critical thinking. They want obedient workers, people just smart enough to run the machines and just dumb enough to passively accept their situation"
-George Carlin

Here's another.

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"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time."


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Posted 16 October 2012 - 11:09 PM

View Postskyeagle409, on 16 October 2012 - 08:36 PM, said:

Just because the communist threat from the former Soviet Union floated away into the sunset doesn't mean the United States can't update and modernize its military.



Says who?



The CIA wasn't supporting Osama bin Laden and remember, Osama  bin Laden declared war on the United States. And, remember this:

*   Terrorist plotted to fly an aircraft into CIA headquarters, but the United States didn't go to war

*   Terrorist plotted to blow up airliners over the Pacific, but the United States did not go to war

*   Terrorist blew up our embassies in Lebanon, Kenya, and in Tanzania, but the United States did not go to war.

*   Terrorist set off explosives under WTC1 in 1993 and the United States didn't go to war.

*   Terrorist set off explosives next to the USS Cole, and the United States did not go to war.

*   Terrorist downed Pan Am 103 with a bomb, but the United States did not go to war.

You are allowing conspiracy websites to poison your mind with disinformation and misinformation.

How do you know your information isnt misinformation? Come on....my only point is this....the 'official' story of 9/11 is bull****...and ANY thinking person can figure that out. The problem is there are so many layers of truth/fiction, half truths, lies, cover ups, and alliances that would more than raise an eyebrow but that would shock you to your core........I don't give a good g-d damn if you freaking believe me or not.......it's not about me or what I know, it's about we should be looking with eyes wide open and with skepticism at alot of the bs thrown at us....not just believing everything. 9/11 was such a tragedy........and I believe many many people/groups are to blame.....not the US per se.....this is way above 'govt'......these are people with allegiance to no country...only to greed and power.


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Posted 16 October 2012 - 11:22 PM

Is there any wonder about why I've grown tired of this topic?  No matter how much you clarify, explain, repudiate, dispute, or educate...  there's always going to be one or two more people jumping into the fray with the same degree of ignorance as the last couple.  Some of them even stick around and convey their stupidity on a daily basis.

It can be overwhelming.

Good luck fellas, I'm not going to be as diligent in these threads for a while.  I find this display of nonsensical garbage to be disheartening.

Cheers.


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Posted 16 October 2012 - 11:24 PM

View PostTrueBeliever, on 16 October 2012 - 11:09 PM, said:

How do you know your information isnt misinformation? Come on....my only point is this....the 'official' story of 9/11 is bull****...and ANY thinking person can figure that out. The problem is there are so many layers of truth/fiction, half truths, lies, cover ups, and alliances that would more than raise an eyebrow but that would shock you to your core........I don't give a good g-d damn if you freaking believe me or not.......it's not about me or what I know, it's about we should be looking with eyes wide open and with skepticism at alot of the bs thrown at us....not just believing everything. 9/11 was such a tragedy........and I believe many many people/groups are to blame.....not the US per se.....this is way above 'govt'......these are people with allegiance to no country...only to greed and power.

had no clue science, engineering, physics, math, aerodynamics and many other fields is pure bull****.

Since most of it confirms the Official Story.

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 12:14 AM

View PostRaptorBites, on 16 October 2012 - 11:24 PM, said:

had no clue science, engineering, physics, math, aerodynamics and many other fields is pure bull****.

Since most of it confirms the Official Story.

you might be surprised how effed up this world is, and who alliances with who....and what some will do to further their agenda........you would probably flip the eff out, so I don't blame you for not wanting to think that what happened was anything different than what you were told...I get it....but I am telling you, we were lied to. About many many things.it doesn't matter if you believe that or want to or are unwilling to or whatever. But it chills me to the bone the mass murders that occurred that day, and it chills me how many lies we were fed. What chills me the most is this...all the perps will never be known and never be tried for murder. It makes me angry too. So angry........just like with OKC bombing...lies lies and more damn lies...........


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Posted 17 October 2012 - 12:16 AM

View PostTrueBeliever, on 16 October 2012 - 11:09 PM, said:

How do you know your information isnt misinformation?

A long work history in aviation and as a government employee to know the difference.

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Come on....my only point is this....the 'official' story of 9/11 is bull****...and ANY thinking person can figure that out.

Evidence please! No evidence, and you have no case. :no:

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The problem is there are so many layers of truth/fiction, half truths, lies, cover ups, and alliances that would more than raise an eyebrow but that would shock you to your core........I don't give a good g-d damn if you freaking believe me or not.......it's not about me or what I know,...

What do you know?

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it's about we should be looking with eyes wide open and with skepticism at alot of the bs thrown at us....not just believing everything. 9/11 was such a tragedy........and I believe many many people/groups are to blame.....not the US per se.....this is way above 'govt'......these are people with allegiance to no country...only to greed and power.

Did American Airlines and United Airlines confirm the loss of their aircraft on 9/11/2001?  Are those companies government agencies?

Edited by skyeagle409, 17 October 2012 - 12:16 AM.

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 12:19 AM

View PostTrueBeliever, on 17 October 2012 - 12:14 AM, said:

you might be surprised how effed up this world is, and who alliances with who....and what some will do to further their agenda........you would probably flip the eff out, so I don't blame you for not wanting to think that what happened was anything different than what you were told...I get it....but I am telling you, we were lied to. About many many things.it doesn't matter if you believe that or want to or are unwilling to or whatever. But it chills me to the bone the mass murders that occurred that day, and it chills me how many lies we were fed. What chills me the most is this...all the perps will never be known and never be tried for murder. It makes me angry too. So angry........just like with OKC bombing...lies lies and more damn lies...........

I have had to correct 9/11 conspiracist on a number of facts regarding the B-767 and the B-757 and on other aviation issues because what they have claimed wasn't factual in the real world of aviation.

As I have said before, they have been watching too many Hollywood action movies and they tried to blend fantasy with fact.

Edited by skyeagle409, 17 October 2012 - 12:22 AM.

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 12:23 AM

View PostTrueBeliever, on 17 October 2012 - 12:14 AM, said:

you might be surprised how effed up this world is, and who alliances with who....and what some will do to further their agenda........you would probably flip the eff out, so I don't blame you for not wanting to think that what happened was anything different than what you were told...I get it....but I am telling you, we were lied to. About many many things.it doesn't matter if you believe that or want to or are unwilling to or whatever. But it chills me to the bone the mass murders that occurred that day, and it chills me how many lies we were fed. What chills me the most is this...all the perps will never be known and never be tried for murder. It makes me angry too. So angry........just like with OKC bombing...lies lies and more damn lies...........




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Posted 17 October 2012 - 12:31 AM

View Postskyeagle409, on 17 October 2012 - 12:16 AM, said:

A long work history in aviation and as a government employee to know the difference.



Evidence please! No evidence, and you have no case. :no:



What do you know?



Did American Airlines and United Airlines confirm the loss of their aircraft on 9/11/2001?  Are those companies government agencies?
even with evidence I have no case! I know alot of things.......it doesn't really matter how or why I know them  because there is not a damned thing can be done about it. I just wish more people would open there eyes. I am not a conspiracy nut. But I KNOW how evil wicked effed up and insanely committed certain individuals and groups of people are...and I KNOW how far they will go to pursue their agenda.


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Posted 17 October 2012 - 12:37 AM

View Postskyeagle409, on 17 October 2012 - 12:19 AM, said:

I have had to correct 9/11 conspiracist on a number of facts regarding the B-767 and the B-757 and on other aviation issues because what they have claimed wasn't factual in the real world of aviation.

As I have said before, they have been watching too many Hollywood action movies and they tried to blend fantasy with fact.

I have read some wacky 9/11 theories also.....it is insane really what some of them come up with. I totally agree that there are conspiracy nuts out there and they do watch too many Hollywood productions! lol....BUT that doesn't mean 9/11 happened the way we were told........it's complicated for sure and it saddens me......saddens me quite deeply. I was at the WTC memorial a few weekends ago......it just is still such a shock. Such an act of cruelty.........


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Posted 17 October 2012 - 12:41 AM

View PostTrueBeliever, on 17 October 2012 - 12:31 AM, said:

even with evidence I have no case! I know alot of things.......it doesn't really matter how or why I know them  because there is not a damned thing can be done about it. I just wish more people would open there eyes. I am not a conspiracy nut. But I KNOW how evil wicked effed up and insanely committed certain individuals and groups of people are...and I KNOW how far they will go to pursue their agenda.

You have nothing that refutes the official story. :no: It is what the evidence depicts and evidence is what counts.

Edited by skyeagle409, 17 October 2012 - 12:46 AM.

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