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[Nathan DiYorio]

onceaskeptic, on 10 August 2012 - 05:14 AM, said:

I am diagnosed with everything I have, I dont' look for pity, I don't try and get people to feel bad for me. I only mentioned that I have anything diagnosed until I thought it necissary. I don't place myself up anywhere, in fact, I don't care about myself much at all.
You don't know me, all you know are the posts I've posted on this thread, seeking opinions. And now that I've gotten them, I honestly don't understand why you decided to just come here and insult a teenager that was just looking for answers.

Obviously, you have some very serious issues that you need to sort out on dealing with teenagers. Regardless of how old you are, not all teens belong in the category you have placed me in, and the fact that you just lumped me in there shows me that I shouldn't take you or your posts seriously, since all you're going to do is be rude to a stranger.
If your posts continue to be rude, I'll probably just ignore them.

This would all be relevant if it weren't for the fact that I'm basing my assertions on the way you've been posting. If you want me to view you differently, post differently.
I didn't say anything about you seeking pity.
You were looking for opinions. I'm giving you mine. Beggars can't be choosers.
Teenagers aren't a class that needs to be babied.
- On this note, if you can't handle me, don't you dare think about writing. That's what I do, I'm a writer, and it can be one vicious cycle. -
I have no issues to work out when dealing with teenagers. Teenagers are the ones who have issues. Seriously, ask your health teacher.
I never said all teens belong in that category, I said you did. And you so far, I'm right.
My rudeness is retaliation to your own. If you don't think you were being rude, then, again we're going back to writing, you need to learn how to control your tone through text.
If you don't know much about this, why did you *rudely* tell me off? Maybe you should do some research next time.
Apathy is associated with Schizophrenia, you are right. But what you have described of yourself in your life is a far more severe and chronic form of apathy than what is typically associated with schizophrenic disorders. If you truly are as cold as you make yourself out to be, you are borderline sociopathic as well as schizophrenic.
I'm not debating your diagnosis. I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm saying you should look into additional afflictions. You can have more than one mental disorder, they are not mutual exclusive, in fact they usually come in groups.

My posts have been rude in response to condescension and rudeness on your part. Don't dish out what you can't swallow.

[onceaskeptic]

Xetan, on 10 August 2012 - 05:49 AM, said:

This would all be relevant if it weren't for the fact that I'm basing my assertions on the way you've been posting. If you want me to view you differently, post differently.
I didn't say anything about you seeking pity.
You were looking for opinions. I'm giving you mine. Beggars can't be choosers.
Teenagers aren't a class that needs to be babied.
- On this note, if you can't handle me, don't you dare think about writing. That's what I do, I'm a writer, and it can be one vicious cycle. -
I have no issues to work out when dealing with teenagers. Teenagers are the ones who have issues. Seriously, ask your health teacher.
I never said all teens belong in that category, I said you did. And you so far, I'm right.
My rudeness is retaliation to your own. If you don't think you were being rude, then, again we're going back to writing, you need to learn how to control your tone through text.
If you don't know much about this, why did you *rudely* tell me off? Maybe you should do some research next time.
Apathy is associated with Schizophrenia, you are right. But what you have described of yourself in your life is a far more severe and chronic form of apathy than what is typically associated with schizophrenic disorders. If you truly are as cold as you make yourself out to be, you are borderline sociopathic as well as schizophrenic.
I'm not debating your diagnosis. I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm saying you should look into additional afflictions. You can have more than one mental disorder, they are not mutual exclusive, in fact they usually come in groups.

My posts have been rude in response to condescension and rudeness on your part. Don't dish out what you can't swallow.

One, I am not being rude. I did not tell you off, I made an arguement to your previous statement.
Two, when I'm discussing things with someone, I don't have the same abililty tha tI do when I write. It's that way with conversation, and when I'm having a conversation online. I have no tone to my voice, nor when I reply through text.
Three, (And no, these aren't in order.) No, teenagers do NOT need to be babied. And my assumption that you group all of them together may be wrong- but refer to my second point. I don't reply in any certain way, I just say what comes to mind to get the information through, because I'm never sure how to word my thoughts when it comes to speaking to another person.
It isn't this way when I write, it's more like I"m describing what I see. I also don't care what people think about my writing, because as long as I write specific things, I know I'll always have someone to buy my work. People read Twilight, which had flat characters, abusive relationships, etc- and liked it. In fact, became obsessed with it. I have confidence in my writing.

I did get off topic with my original reply. Sorry.
I know schizophrenics. The way that they feel- or at least act liek they feel- is very similar to the way that I do. I also know a sociopath, and I'm nothing like they are.
Given, it may very per person, but I don't lack guilt or remorse. If I do something bad, I know that I did something bad, and I do what I can to make up for it. I don't exactly know, as I've mentioned, how to explain what I mean when I say this. There isn't a way for me to clarify, at least not one I can put into words.
I'm not a liar, in fact, I'm honest. I never lie, because I don't see a point in it. I don't manipulate people, I barely talk to people unless the situation is forced, and I never try to get anything out of anyone.
I'm also not impulsive, when I'm not on 'auto-pilot' (when I'm cleaning, or whatever) I think about what i'm about to do before I do it. The most impulsive thing I've done is kick my ex in the shin. (Don't regret it, however. He deserved it.)

I don't lack responsibility, I'm not egocentric. I do what needs to be done, and when I'm not by myself I basically let people walk over me- because I don't care if they do. (In the long run, it doesn't matter anyway if people use me because it's in the past and over iwth.)

You assume from my posts the kind of person that i am, but in person, I'm very different from the way I am online. As I said, I have a hard time putting my thoughts into words when it comes to conversation, and I just do what I can to get the information across. (I don't know why it's so difficult in situations like this, but not in writing stories.)
You can't tell what kind of person anyone is, just by what they're like on the internet.

[Nathan DiYorio]

You just disproved everything about your lack of caring all on your own. Guilt is caring, remorse is caring. You care. Now go finish being a teenager.

I can assume what kind of person someone is by how they act. If you don't want people to make the wrong assumptions, present yourself in the way you want people to think of you. This is how the world works.

On writing: You can't rely on that one odd reader to satisfy your monetary needs. You can rely on them to satisfy your ego, yeah. But not for money. And you've already said that writing is you self-sustaining plan. If you want that to be true, you have to learn to pick up the slack on the skills you know you lack.

Now stop sounding so much like I did a couple years ago. You're giving me flashbacks.

[onceaskeptic]

Xetan, on 10 August 2012 - 06:32 AM, said:

You just disproved everything about your lack of caring all on your own. Guilt is caring, remorse is caring. You care. Now go finish being a teenager.

I can assume what kind of person someone is by how they act. If you don't want people to make the wrong assumptions, present yourself in the way you want people to think of you. This is how the world works.

On writing: You can't rely on that one odd reader to satisfy your monetary needs. You can rely on them to satisfy your ego, yeah. But not for money. And you've already said that writing is you self-sustaining plan. If you want that to be true, you have to learn to pick up the slack on the skills you know you lack.

Now stop sounding so much like I did a couple years ago. You're giving me flashbacks.

You sound like this guy that used to be in my homeschool group, and when he hit college, he turned into a know-it-all that talked to teenagers as though they were 10. You remind me so much of him.

I present myself the only way I know how. I've already explained my difficulty in wording my thoughts, I'm not going to do it again. I speak in a way- as this is what speech is for- to get my information across.

I've already explained everything you just said to me, I don't understand why I need to keep repeating myself to get my point across to you.  I go about my daily life like anyone else, but without feeling anything about it, and only thinking about my writing, writing, or daydreaming. I do what any normal person would do, but I don't care when I do it, nor do I feel anything towards reality beyond that of my baby sister. (Who took her first steps earlier today, just wanted to tell someone regardless of whether or not htey like me or care.)
I make up for wrong doings, I keep the peace in chaos what I can, I clean, cook, babysit. I've worked at a halfway-house, I've worked at homeless shelters, special olympics, but I just do it because people tell me I should. I don't do it because i care abotu other people, I dont' get that sense of 'goodness' that I should probably get from doing good things; I just do what I do, and what I'm expected to do to keep people from bothering me more.
I don't care that you think I'm just another annoying teen, but for the sake of arguing, and because I've drank to much coffee and can't focus on writing, I've been discussing this with you.

BUT, it has proved that this website, this thread especially, is much too time-consuming when I could be doing what I do best, which is living once more inside my mind. I had at some point along this, thought that maybe I should try not spending so much time with my thoughts, but it seems like every time I decide to change something in my life, someone or something proves me wrong.


If I can figure out how, I'm deleting this account, and nobody will hear from me again. I appreciate those of you who tried to give me advice that wasn't passive-aggresive. I pretty much wasted a lot of time here, my own and other people's, as this was completely pointless.
If I have questions from now on, I'll stick to Yahoo Answers and won't be returning to this thread. I've spent far too much time on it already.

[Nathan DiYorio]

onceaskeptic, on 10 August 2012 - 06:52 AM, said:

You sound like this guy that used to be in my homeschool group, and when he hit college, he turned into a know-it-all that talked to teenagers as though they were 10. You remind me so much of him.

I present myself the only way I know how. I've already explained my difficulty in wording my thoughts, I'm not going to do it again. I speak in a way- as this is what speech is for- to get my information across.

I've already explained everything you just said to me, I don't understand why I need to keep repeating myself to get my point across to you.  I go about my daily life like anyone else, but without feeling anything about it, and only thinking about my writing, writing, or daydreaming. I do what any normal person would do, but I don't care when I do it, nor do I feel anything towards reality beyond that of my baby sister. (Who took her first steps earlier today, just wanted to tell someone regardless of whether or not htey like me or care.)
I make up for wrong doings, I keep the peace in chaos what I can, I clean, cook, babysit. I've worked at a halfway-house, I've worked at homeless shelters, special olympics, but I just do it because people tell me I should. I don't do it because i care abotu other people, I dont' get that sense of 'goodness' that I should probably get from doing good things; I just do what I do, and what I'm expected to do to keep people from bothering me more.
I don't care that you think I'm just another annoying teen, but for the sake of arguing, and because I've drank to much coffee and can't focus on writing, I've been discussing this with you.

BUT, it has proved that this website, this thread especially, is much too time-consuming when I could be doing what I do best, which is living once more inside my mind. I had at some point along this, thought that maybe I should try not spending so much time with my thoughts, but it seems like every time I decide to change something in my life, someone or something proves me wrong.


If I can figure out how, I'm deleting this account, and nobody will hear from me again. I appreciate those of you who tried to give me advice that wasn't passive-aggresive. I pretty much wasted a lot of time here, my own and other people's, as this was completely pointless.
If I have questions from now on, I'll stick to Yahoo Answers and won't be returning to this thread. I've spent far too much time on it already.

You keep repeating yourself to me because you don't understand what I'm saying.

Have a nice life!