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[Leave Britney alone!]

I spent two hours debating with someone and at the end they finally agreed with me after I explained my position fully and offered sources.

But they simply said that it was I who finally agreed with them.

People who cannot admit when they are wrong. What is up with them?

[Jak Mundane]

People, as a whole, are proud, and don't easily back down once they have taken a stance. It may seem like they are being ignorant, but most (or some, depending on who you talk to) just have a hard time getting past their own pride.

People don't just believe what they want to believe, they believe only what they can believe. It's as much instinct as it is a choice.

[ZaraKitty]

I'm never wrong!

[Mnemonix]

No idea. Maybe that's their way of showing their superiority?

[StarMountainKid]

According to other people I'm always wrong, so I guess I don't have that problem.

[Kazoo]

In the end its just another form of faith. Humans cling to idea's. And if this idea is a political stance or something. Then so be it. Something I noticed is the people who complain about this the most are the same people who do it the most. I find that extremely amusing,

I'm amused of how you tell your story from the point if view you are right. In the very story you are complaining about you are doing the exact same thing. Is it possible that you were infact incorrect and what they said happen actually happen?  That frustration you feel about the debate. The person probably feels the same way to you.

Everyones bias. Its just a fact.

[Royal]

I thought I was wrong once,but I was mistaken.

[Likely Guy]

Jak Mundane, on 18 August 2012 - 09:53 PM, said:

People, as a whole, are proud, and don't easily back down once they have taken a stance. It may seem like they are being ignorant, but most (or some, depending on who you talk to) just have a hard time getting past their own pride.

People don't just believe what they want to believe, they believe only what they can believe. It's as much instinct as it is a choice.

Jak, welcome to the forums. You said, "People, as a whole, are proud, and don't easily back down once they have taken a stance."

What bothers me is the 'ill-informed stance'. People who throw out a land mine in the discussion and simply refuse to back up their statement. And all that they subsequently offer is, "that the facts are well known...", or "go do your own research...", and "I don't accept your sources...", etc.

All that you can do, is smile and walk away. (and hope that they'll think next time before offering the same 'ill-informed' stance).

/that, and I'm never wrong.

Edited by Likely Guy, 19 August 2012 - 01:18 AM.

[Jak Mundane]

Likely Guy, on 19 August 2012 - 01:13 AM, said:

Jak, welcome to the forums.You said, "People, as a whole, are proud, and don't easily back down once they have taken a stance."What bothers me is the 'ill-informed stance'. People who throw out a land mine in the discussion and simply refuse to back up their statement. And all that they subsequently offer is that, "the facts are well known...", "go do your own research...", "I don't accept your sources...", etc.All that you can do, is smile and walk away. (and hope that they'll think next time before offering the same 'ill-informed' stance)/that, and I'm never wrong.

Ha, Thank you for the warm welcome.

Yes, I have noticed that some people take that stance, which is really unfortunate. Or, if they bring a viewpoint to the table that was not intended for the discussion (bringing science to a knife fight, for example).

But people are who they are, and are unlikely to change any time soon.

[Likely Guy]

Jak Mundane, on 19 August 2012 - 01:17 AM, said:

...But people are who they are, and are unlikely to change any time soon.

Agreed!

[Hilander]

I can't stand being around people that always think they are right.  Why because with these types your opinion rarely counts because they are right and you are wrong.  Can't have a productive conversation with them and may as well be talking to the wall.  I think they do this because of some basic insecurity in themselves.

[Professor T]

People who's Ego is self centered put themselves in the center of the universe can never be wrong because them and their opinions stand at the center of all that is. They are never wrong because everyone else's opintions are an illusion to them.

People who's Ego is not self centered are empathic enough to understand other peoples point of view are more capable to admit they are wrong. They can admit they are wrong because they can understand that other options are from a different perspective.

Edited by Professortaylor, 19 August 2012 - 01:48 AM.

[Royal]

I'm the kind of person who can be swayed to a different way of thinking if something makes logical sense{that's why I came to this forum in the first place...seeking answers}.And with that in mind I've come across a few personalities that are totally convinced that their point of view is the only one that matters{facts and figures being what they are}so end of discussion.Then I think about my own experiences and I know that the battle has just begun.

[Simbi Laveau]

We cant hel p it if we are always right ....

[Beany]

Simbi Laveau, on 19 August 2012 - 04:09 AM, said:

We cant hel p it if we are always right ....

I think you're wrong about that.