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[Likely Guy]

 The Silver Thong, on 01 September 2012 - 03:27 AM, said:

Burn them all to the ground is the only thing to do and start over.

And then what?

*edit* I owe about 50 grand on my mortgage, and happily so. Another friend has never been in debt and has about 20 grand in the bank. My third friend is land rich but wants to borrow 70 grand from the bank to build his house.

Is the answer a anarcho syndalicist commune?

Edited by Likely Guy, 01 September 2012 - 04:09 AM.

[Little Fish]

 Likely Guy, on 01 September 2012 - 03:57 AM, said:

And then what?

*edit* I owe about 50 grand on my mortgage, and happily so. Another friend has never been in debt and has about 20 grand in the bank. My third friend is land rich but wants to borrow 70 grand from the bank to build his house.

Is the answer a anarcho syndalicist commune?

you and your friends are not nations. you did not have to take that mortgage, you decided to take on that debt, which is different to a nations debt, consider the scenario where you spend it on gambling and fast cars then force your wife, kids and unborn grandkids to pay it off. the point is that banks and those that own and control them should not have unlimited leverage over a nation. a nation is the ultimate sovereign which represents the collective sovereignty of its people. the nwo is a world run by banking families where nations are subordinate and tools of those bankers, corporate shells where the president is just the ceo working for the benefit of and on behalf of the owners (bankers). Insider Carol Quiqley laid it all out decades ago in his books tragedy and hope, and anglo american establishment. if you are averse to 1200 page books then find synopses of the books on the net. you'll find some interesting things in it like Hitlers banker being on the board of the BIS, the same BIS which securitized germany's war reparations. so who really is in control? the solution is not "anarcho syndalicist commune" whatever that means, it seems to me the solution is to ensure the powers currently held by unelected banking elites should be seized and used for the benefit of the collective sovereigns.

[Jeremiah65]

Pretty interesting thread here.  My personal feelings is that Alex Jones is a little over the top and just building discord by trying to frighten everyone.  Occasionally he has something interesting...like his coverage of the Bilderburg meeting this year in Virginia...but...even that was a whole lot of speculation about "what" was being discussed.  Nothing solid...just lots of wild opinion.

As far as the "elites" taking over the world and creating a NWO...here is a little video I think you should watch.  I happen to agree with a lot of what is suggested/pointed out in it and because of that, I personally doubt the "elites" or the NWO will rise to power with an iron fist...I believe it is/will be much more subtle than that.

[preacherman76]

 Jeremiah65, on 01 September 2012 - 02:51 PM, said:

Pretty interesting thread here.  My personal feelings is that Alex Jones is a little over the top and just building discord by trying to frighten everyone.  Occasionally he has something interesting...like his coverage of the Bilderburg meeting this year in Virginia...but...even that was a whole lot of speculation about "what" was being discussed.  Nothing solid...just lots of wild opinion.

Alex can be over the top at times. Aside from that I have to disagree with everything else youve said here. I dont think he is trying to sow discord through fear. In fact Ive never heard anyone give better railly crys then Alex Jones. Ive heard him a million times try to empower his listeners with the spirit of resistance.
Also Alex covers the builderburg group through 2 reporters who have insiders at builderburg. He always has the full list of those attending, subject matter, and what they came up with regarding the subject matter. Lots of very acurate predictions were made after many of these meetings. Nothing about it is wild opinion.

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As far as the "elites" taking over the world and creating a NWO...here is a little video I think you should watch.  I happen to agree with a lot of what is suggested/pointed out in it and because of that, I personally doubt the "elites" or the NWO will rise to power with an iron fist...I believe it is/will be much more subtle than that.

That is a good video. Thanks for posting. Alex does a great documentary on the history of these elites, right up till today. Its called end game, and you can watch it on youtube. Very informative, and well worth watching.

Edited by preacherman76, 01 September 2012 - 03:50 PM.

[Jackofalltrades]

 aztek, on 01 September 2012 - 12:59 AM, said:

i got two,

maybe they already rule , ?
and noting would change for you, me and many others, anyway, owo or nwo doesnt matter ,and Some evidence of NWO is already  in plain sight???

two

how much would that stature cost?

Seeing as those stones was paid for in 1979 and erected in 1980 I would believe they already do exist/rule in some way shape or form

The only thing that would change is thing's could or probably would get worse for You, me and many others,

starving people will not argue or demonstrate against any new laws that they bring out will they ?

As for evidence in plain sight there is what I already stated the Georgia Guidestones, plus things like this speech by George Bush Snr  is in plain sight and possibly other things too



I believe (could be wrong) it cost $100,000 approx just for the stone work, then a further $5000 for the land it sits on

plus whatever other expenses from the translator's etc which is an unknown price (to me at least)

In today's money it would cost approx $500,000 just for the stone work as far as I am aware

 Likely Guy, on 01 September 2012 - 02:09 AM, said:

Okay Jack... The Georgia Guidestones. What are they proof of, for you?

I think the Georgia Guidestones speak for themselves, however I do believe that whoever paid for them to be erected did so on the basis that they could get their agenda known in Full view

without compromising their Identity, also possibly to try and condition people to accept what is stated on them, or at least to see what people think of their plans, (basically to get feedback)

[aztek]

 Jackofalltrades, on 01 September 2012 - 04:21 PM, said:

In today's money it would cost approx $500,000 just for the stone work as far as I am aware

if i could afford it i't buid something like that just to screw with CT. and pbly could get tax deduction on it.
just to see where it would take CTs. it would  be a lot of fun to watch,

[Jackofalltrades]

 aztek, on 01 September 2012 - 06:34 PM, said:

if i could afford it i't buid something like that just to screw with CT. and pbly could get tax deduction on it.
just to see where it would take CTs. it would be a lot of fun to watch,

So You are saying it was built as a joke and You would do the same if You could afford to,  just to belittle people that believe ? ever thought of seeing a psychiatrist ?

It is not the first time I have heard that line of defense off skeptic's " it was built as a joke" as they cannot or will not state a feasible reason why that was commisioned or built

As I stated in my earlier post

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"I have yet to hear one single feasible reason why that is there and why it was put there

I am open minded, I will listen to reasonable/feasible evidence or theories, but for people to just ridicule the idea of a NWO while there is blatant evidence like that boggles my mind"

Can You give a feasible reason why that was commisioned and built without resorting to trying to belittle people and stating that it was possibly a joke ?

What evidence can You or anyone else provide that makes the whole theory of the NWO a load of BS ?

[aztek]

 Jackofalltrades, on 01 September 2012 - 08:34 PM, said:

So You are saying it was built as a joke and You would do the same if You could afford to,  just to belittle people that believe ? ever thought of seeing a psychiatrist ?

It is not the first time I have heard that line of defense off skeptic's " it was built as a joke" as they cannot or will not state a feasible reason why that was commisioned or built

yes I'm saying that.  just to belittle people that  imagine things, than believe in what they imagine as religion.

they did give you feasible reason, a joke\prank, sounds like good enough of a reason., but you just can't grasp that concept.
what was the feasible reason for crop circles hoax???

[Jackofalltrades]

 aztek, on 01 September 2012 - 09:36 PM, said:

yes I'm saying that.  just to belittle people that  imagine things, than believe in what they imagine as religion.

they did give you feasible reason, a joke\prank, sounds like good enough of a reason., but you just can't grasp that concept.
what was the feasible reason for crop circles hoax???

I could go around belittling people just like you do , but I do not for the simple reason is I have respect for myself and other people, and also would like to get to the truth

My whole point is that no matter what a skeptic, WILL NOT or CANNOT give any evidence to back their claim's up, yet they ALWAYS seem to get other people to show evidence

Give me proof/evidence that the Georgia Guidestone's are or was meant as a joke

You still have not answered my question's from my previous post

Can You give a feasible reason why that was commisioned and built without resorting to trying to belittle people and stating that it was possibly a joke ?

What evidence can You or anyone else provide that makes the whole theory of the NWO a load of BS ?

[Likely Guy]

 Jackofalltrades, on 01 September 2012 - 04:21 PM, said:

I think the Georgia Guidestones speak for themselves, however I do believe that whoever paid for them to be erected did so on the basis that they could get their agenda known in Full view without compromising their Identity, also possibly to try and condition people to accept what is stated on them, or at least to see what people think of their plans, (basically to get feedback)

As to what written on them, I don't see anything nefarious. I think that they were erected so that far future generations can rebuild a better world, if this, or another future generation, screw this world up.I guess that it all depends one's mindset though.

[Jackofalltrades]

 Likely Guy, on 02 September 2012 - 03:08 AM, said:

As to what written on them, I don't see anything nefarious. I think that they were erected so that far future generations can rebuild a better world, if this, or another future generation, screw this world up.I guess that it all depends one's mindset though.

It is possible, it is also a possibility I had not thought of

[aztek]

 Jackofalltrades, on 01 September 2012 - 11:25 PM, said:

I could go around belittling people just like you do , but I do not for the simple reason is I have respect for myself and other people, and also would like to get to the truth

My whole point is that no matter what a skeptic, WILL NOT or CANNOT give any evidence to back their claim's up, yet they ALWAYS seem to get other people to show evidence

Give me proof/evidence that the Georgia Guidestone's are or was meant as a joke

You still have not answered my question's from my previous post

Can You give a feasible reason why that was commisioned and built without resorting to trying to belittle people and stating that it was possibly a joke ?

What evidence can You or anyone else provide that makes the whole theory of the NWO a load of BS ?

you were given answers, but they don't fit your religion so you don't even grasp, that they are the answers.
jokes are good enough reason.

[Jackofalltrades]

 aztek, on 04 September 2012 - 12:09 AM, said:

you were given answers, but they don't fit your religion so you don't even grasp, that they are the answers.
jokes are good enough reason.

Since when is "it was a joke" a feasible answer ?....   It is NOT a feasible answer

And since when has religion got anything to do with it ?....  I do not have a religion

And who are You to state what I can or cannot grasp ?.... You have NO idea what I can or cannot grasp as You do not know me

If You think it was a joke then Prove It!,     put Your money where Your mouth is

Actually do not bother, as I am no longer interested in conversing about this subject with You, as it is getting us both nowhere....  fast


Or are You just trolling to get a reaction ???

[aztek]

 Jackofalltrades, on 04 September 2012 - 12:29 AM, said:

Since when is "it was a joke" a feasible answer ?....   It is NOT a feasible answer

And since when has religion got anything to do with it ?....  I do not have a religion

And who are You to state what I can or cannot grasp ?.... You have NO idea what I can or cannot grasp as You do not know me

you pretty much showed it here, you can't grasp that joke is a reason. ppl go to great length to make one. crop circles and snow man are just few examples. (those are hoaxes in case you don't know, ppl admitted to it and even showed how it was done.)

you do have a religion, conspiracy.

[Jackofalltrades]

 aztek, on 04 September 2012 - 01:21 AM, said:

you pretty much showed it here, you can't grasp that joke is a reason. ppl go to great length to make one. crop circles and snow man are just few examples. (those are hoaxes in case you don't know, ppl admitted to it and even showed how it was done.)

you do have a religion, conspiracy.

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"Actually do not bother, as I am no longer interested in conversing about this subject with You, as it is getting us both nowhere.... fast"

Please read,  then re read,  and then read again (until You understand it) the above quote from my previous post to You !




Now You definitely seem like You are just trolling !