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[monk 56]

First point, as i am engaged in a number of struggles in this forum, please deny that the last minute of Julian Calendar wasn't 23:59pm on 4th October 1582, in Rome, it matters so please throw as much as you can in dispute!

http://en.wikipedia....ter_gravissimas

This was a closing ceremony on the Great Julian Calendar, that had lasted for nearly 1600 years, since 1st January 0045BC, it was hermetic in beliefs, strangely different to peasant beliefs regarding "Christian Beliefs" of the majority of lesser individuals not engaged, that now forms the Democracy of the individual in most countries, note change!

As it got to midnight between 4th and 5th October 1582 in Rome, Sirius, the Calendar star of Egyptians was rising....please dispute, graph below:-

http://2012forum.com...=3495&mode=view

[monk 56]

However this doesn't explain how Sirius was and is culminating on 1st January at midnight, although the Egyptian concept was Sirius was the heliacal rising star at new year in the Egyptian Calendar as the clock emerged, this was modified to midnight as the start of the day at new year, the largest problem in this for Pope Gregory XIII, is he wanted to keep Sirius in the middle of the sky at new year for as long as possible against axial precession, and he did find a way, as usaully after over 400 years, we would not be experiencing this still today.

http://en.wikipedia....xial_precession

Astrologers believe in two measures regarding fixed stars and use an orb of 1 degree= to four minutes of time, the Paran or Paranatellonta is accurate and is what astronomers use, the other measure is called projected measure which isn't accurate and is based on fixing all stars to the ecliptic being the imaginery path of the Sun through the constellations, however many stars don't sit on the ecliptic, links below:-

http://astrologeratl...s-Ecliptic.html

http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/10705808

After midnight on 4th October 1582, ten days were taken out of the calendar, obviously this would effect 1st January 1583 at midnight regarding the night sky and then on!

He firstly used Projected measure that petered out using 1 degree orb in the last quarter of 1700's, soon after at the start of 1800 the paran took over showing Sirius in the middle of the sky, and it is this that can be observed on 1st January 2013, so he was very clever using both different measures, and he understood that as one measure faded, the other would take over, thus giving the alignment longer life against axial precession, as Simbi is an astrologer i'm sure she could explain projected measure if you find me unclear, graph below showing Projected, M.C. means middle of sky:-

http://2012forum.com...=3533&mode=view

Astronomy graph below showing paran and accurate measure, showing that Sirius wasn't in the middle of sky at 1st January 1583, projected measure used, it also shows that early in 1800 that paran measure came in....clever wasn't it?

http://2012forum.com...=3532&mode=view

[monk 56]

I'm sure as Simbi gets to grips with me, spiritual issues must be expressed by "green Issues", whatever religion you have, i'm against hermetic infiltration in secret, however not so when applied correctly, i'm against aggressive, but in tune with passive in any religion whatever, mostly i'm against aggressive infiltration of all concepts of religion, please note there is no concept of Christian religion regarding Sirius, as with other main religions, the concept is hermetic, but i don't have a problem with that as long as it stays out of politics and noting some believers infiltrate and get aggressive.....no doubt i will look at this next!!!!!

[monk 56]

As you note i have an ecletic philosophy regarding spiritual progress, i hate religious icons being used in the symbolism of war.

THE START AND ENDING OF WAR BETWEEN UNITED STATES AND JAPAN.

Some of above i have aready shown but not all intentional symbolism....Hawaii was annexed by the USA in 1898 and made a territory, and didn't become a State of the Union until 1959, however in 1941 it was considered sovereign soil of America.

http://en.wikipedia....itory_of_Hawaii

The awful attack on Pearl Harbour was on 7th December 1941, details below:-

http://en.wikipedia....on_Pearl_Harbor

Nearest point is Pearl City:-

http://en.wikipedia....rl_City,_Hawaii

Sunrise day marker was chosen at location, very apt for the Land of the Rising Sun, as Sun rose, along horizon, Alnilam, Belt of Orion was setting, astronomy graph below:-

http://2012forum.com...=3826&mode=view

The Meiji Constitution had the same alignment at location in Tokyo on 29th November 1890, but was the opposite to what the U.S. chose at the Declaration of Independence on 4th July 1776 in Philadelphia which was Sun rising with Alnilam, link below:-

http://en.wikipedia....ji_Constitution

Graph below showing Meiji and 4th July:-

http://2012forum.com...=3834&mode=view

In symbolism this was Japan trying to transplant a very important U.S. date with its own alignment, obviously America was very angry as they also thought that this was an attack on religion as many were in church at the time the japanese planes were attacking the Pacific Fleet......pay back would happen with masonic symbolism when they reached japanese sovereign soil at the Battle of Okinawa....i'll continue soon!

[monk 56]

America had two masonic presidents during W.W.2, Franklin D. Roosevelt was the 32nd President and was a 32nd degree mason, who died on 12th April 1945, Harry S. Truman was the 33rd President, he was also a 33rd degree mason, i don't like how spiritual icons are used in war, an eye for an eye makes us all blind, defeating Japan didn't need religious symbolism put on top, and brings into question if it was the best day for attack on Okinawa, regarding saving lives of troops, lets explain.

The battle of Okinawa resulted in the highest number of casualties in the Pacific War, partly due to kamikase philosophy, link below:-

http://en.wikipedia....ttle_of_Okinawa

If you scroll down above link to "Northern Okinawa" you will note that the battle started on 1st April 1945, there is a huge amount of religious symbolism attached to that date as it was Easter Sunday and April Fools Day, the intended symbolism is below:-

"WE ARE THE PACIFIC FLEET THAT YOU SUNK AT PEARL HARBOUR, BUT WE ROSE AGAIN LIKE JESUS, WHAT FOOLS YOU WERE TO ATTACK US!"

The attack implemented used midnight day marker in symbolism on 1st April 1945, as SIRIUS was SETTING along the horizon at point of attack on date. please look at diagram below and find attacks mentioned on 1st April you will note that it is slightly below Ishikawa, but above Naha, Okinawa, Japan:-


http://en.wikipedia...._of_Okinawa.svg
Both locations are shown on astronomy graph on link below, obviously Sirius was setting using midnight day marker:-

http://2012forum.com...=6763&mode=view

Obviously that wasn't the end of the war, there is a great deal more intentional symbolism to come, i'll be back tomorrow, while you wait please ponder religious meaning of "TRINITY" with a weapon of mass destruction, link below:-

http://www.ehow.com/...inity-mean.html

Edited by monk 56, 10 October 2012 - 10:02 AM.

[monk 56]

Some members by private message have expressed interest in multi-faceted symbolism of the two atomic bombs dropped on Japan, here we have to be very careful as the symbolism of "Fatman" and "Little Boy" is hotly disputed, and leaves us mystified, however i feel i can work it out for you!

I would like to deal with firstly, the second atomic bomb on Nagasaki, why was it targeted?  The areas of symbolism must be peeled away carefully, but we know that the Mitsubishi-Urakami Ordnance Works was based in in Nagasaki, it was destroyed in the blast, it just happened to be the factory that manufactured the type 91 torpedoes used in the attack on Pearl harbor that sunk the Pacific Naval Fleet.

Link below:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_Man

We need to get more into the code names for these bombs....Fat Man, some say was named after Churchill, Political war time leaders would never want to be associated with something so controversial as a bomb that killed so many civilians, after it could become political dynamite, politicians see it might hurt them, thus Churchill would have never agreed to that symbolism, it is wrong, link expressing this is below:-

http://atomicbombmus...irstbombs.shtml

You will note by wrong symbolism that Hiroshima bomb named "Little Boy", some say it was a reference to President Franklin Roosevelt, easy target he had died in April 1945, but relatives would not want that symbolism, what polician would want that symbolism, slowly but surely we will get to the multi-faceted true symbolism.

Did USA want to change religion in Japan?   During W.W.2. the government of Japan forced every subject to practice "State Shinto" and admit the Emperor was divine, when United States occupied Japan in 1945, State Shinto was abolished, today Buddhism is massive in Japan, is there any symbolism in this?   By mistake there is!

http://en.wikipedia....ligion_in_Japan

A common mistake by those that don't follow Buddhism is that statues of Hotei are Buddha, notice how fat he is (Fat Man), on links below:-

http://www.dailybudd...om/archives/442

http://www.fengshuim...laughing-buddha

We have a long way to go yet in interpretation of Fat Man and Little Boy, mystery cults and knights Templar love symbolism, i'll continue soon!

Edited by monk 56, 11 October 2012 - 09:54 AM.

[monk 56]

Robert Serber gives another explanation of "Fatman" as being Sydney Greenstreet character "Casper Gutman" in "The Maltese Falcon" film of 1941, Humphrey Bogart is my favourite actor, so i know all the symbolism there!



Indeed the Knights of Malta did give a live falcon to Charles V, masons and Knights Templar's would love this film, please scroll down link below to "The Knights' Rule":-

http://www.thecultur...002/Maltese.htm

It is a possibility that part of the multi-faceted symbolism of the "Fatman" bomb comes from this film, however it isn't the main intended symbolism, to see exactly what symbolism was intended, we must now switch to the "Little Boy" bomb to decipher:-

http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Little_Boy

We will get to that tomorrow, when symbolism will become very clear regarding the date!

[monk 56]

Little Boy atomic bomb was detonated over Hiroshima, Japan on 6th August 1945, and like the Battle of Okinawa, it has religious significance for it is the feast day of "The Transfiguration of Christ"

Lets give simple interpretation:-  "Christ goes up a mountain with a few disciples, suddenly he is transformed into a blinding white light, a huge cloud forms above, from this cloud is heard a voice, "This is my son that i'm pleased with, listen to him!"

Links below:-

http://www.allaboutj...-christ-faq.htm

and below:-

http://en.wikipedia....Transfiguration

Was Harry Truman playing God? He had a "Little Boy" we must wonder in his mind's eye he was saying "This is my Little Boy, take a load of him!"

I'm not keen on religious symbolism of this sort, it's not fun or a joke!





Victims on the ground would see a blinding white light, few survived this, those that did would see a massive cloud forming.

Sadly it wasn't the last time that the symbolism of Buddha was used with Atomic Bombs, pretty sick:-

http://en.wikipedia..../Smiling_Buddha

Edited by monk 56, 12 October 2012 - 08:18 AM.

[monk 56]

Obviously some would say the above was an accident or synchronicity, but i have hardly started on this thread yet, and i have already shown on previous pages that there were lots of religious symbolism regarding dates in W.W.1., why would W.W.2. be any different?

http://www.huffingto...i_b_672390.html

http://en.wikipedia....ma_and_Nagasaki

We will look at the Potsdam Declaration tomorrow!

[monk 56]

Before we move on, lets investigate "TRINITY", please scroll down link below to "Atomic Test":-

http://en.wikipedia....nada_del_Muerto

This means "Route of the Dead", and was where "Trinity" was detonated, secret societies love twisted symbolism!

[monk 56]

As far as we know "TRINITY" was named by "OPPENHEIMER" no doubt he isn't lost in interpretation of "Atomic Bombs":-

Trinity has god like interpretation and symbolism, please read two paragraphs above and below as you hit "Operation Trinity".....Link below, this link has street cred!

http://ww2db.com/bat...p?battle_id=206

Quotes:- Oppenheimer did associate God with "Trinity", associated with his interest in Poems of John Donne, you will also note that "Trinity" was an experiment, many scientists thought that perhaps the triggering of splitting the atom would never finish, thus the world would not exist after, it was a guess.....i doubt that voters would have sanctioned a test that might have been the end of the world?   They were never consulted!!!!!!!   Hell don't leave it to powerful secret societies to determine the future of our children!

Another Quote from Oppenheimer, from Hindu Scriptures and Bhagavad Gita....."I AM DEATH, the destroyer of worlds"....very interesting, isn't it?

Edited by monk 56, 13 October 2012 - 12:09 PM.

[monk 56]

We will get to more interpretation tomorrow, i have hardly started on this thread, it will go on and on, but not to the point where i get Majestic 12 value on this forum, please note this is very valued posters, i too value them, but i don't confuse with "Fun", i would not smear our most valued posters, however i don't agree that they should have icon attached, lets make myself clear, Egyptian Dreams members need to be valued regarding "Classical Religions", they are top of the tree, however they don't know Renaissance twisting of religion.

I love this forum, there are not any connection to secret societies, but i'm not keen on fun connections to our most valued posters regarding "Majestic 12", i have a good sense of humour, however it doesn't extent to fun secret societies!

Edited by monk 56, 13 October 2012 - 01:20 PM.

[monk 56]

Please note i'm not against moderators, this forum isn't touched by secret societies, but i wouldn't smear our best posters by image of a fun secret society, in the end i may be part of the image extented, but not by "Magestic 12" all be it fun!

http://en.wikipedia....iki/Majestic_12

Robert Oppenheimer left a number of "Quotes", perhaps members want to debate....i'm ready, sometimes it will take time to reply....it is best i do, quotes from "Oppenheimer" below:-

http://en.wikiquote....ert_Oppenheimer

Want to debate?    Be careful!

[monk 56]

Have you any idea who was the biggest mass murderer in history, who was teflon coated, non-stick, that was never punished?

http://sedulia.blogs...ouse-watch.html

Hell he even went to a state visit to America, met "Mickey Mouse in Disneyland, California, and was buried with his Mickey Mouse Watch", there is humour here, but not a lot, wait till i tell more!

Shame that Hitler committed suicide, no doubt if he hadn't, he would have had state visits to foreign countries, i can imagine what mothers would say to Hitler visiting a Fun Fair in England full of children, 30 years later!!!!

[monk 56]

Message to moderators....we are all concerned what children have access to on www however many children would have access to wikipedia for history study, my images shown below are from wikipedia, we can hardly stop them investigating history, however my images may effect children, you may think moderation is needed on image below:-

http://en.wikipedia....rape_killed.jpg

This looks like an image of a child, no pubic hair, that was gang raped by Japanese in conquest of China, i like modern Japan and this doesn't reflect on the modern nation, however history is there to learn from, usaully after being raped women had either a bayonet or a sharp stick of bamboo stuck in their private parts, you know later on i'm going to show star alignments, you can wait for that regarding the Nanjing Massacre in 1937:-

http://en.wikipedia....anking_Massacre

Hirohito was emperor and classed as a god during this massacre, before USA entered W.W.2.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hirohito

An estimate of Chinese dead between 1939-1945 is 10,000,000, however Japan had invaded China long before 1939, thus total Chinese dead must be far higher, Emperor Hirohito never even went to jail....i don't get it, do you????

Edited by monk 56, 14 October 2012 - 10:55 AM.