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Posted 01 September 2012 - 11:39 PM

:st Welcome Monk56, loving your work and research .Fantastic reading.

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 02:08 AM

View Postmonk 56, on 27 August 2012 - 11:48 AM, said:

To be random cannot be true, mostly all government architecture in Washington D.C. is aligned to Sirius and Alnilam, i feel this is because of secret beliefs, it was not only the Egyptians that valued these stars,
Sirius is mentioned in the Quran, link below:-

http://www.islamawak.../49/default.htm

You will also find Sirius mentioned below:-

http://www.staff.sci...l_converter.htm

Indeed most Sun calendars were aligned to Sirius including the Gregorian Calendar that we use today, again later in this report i will go through calendars.
Yes people do place buildings  to face the sun or the moon or north or sirius or just for the view. I faced my house so it would get the winter sun and in doing this at certain times of the year you can see neptune in a direct line through my window I did not know this would happen at the time, I just wanted the winter sun, now if I did this random act in 4 thousand BC you would be most likely be trying to work out why I aligned it to neptune. Hence it must be some religious thing or secret belief especially if I had built several bathrooms put a hot tub in etc etc etc you do the math.   :tu:

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 10:13 AM

Hi s33ker,

Thank you for comments,

Hi Harlequin Dreamer, obviously many nations don't admit to aligning Sirius or Alnilam but a few give clues.   Cleopatra died over 2,000 years ago and yet secret societies still use these stars, Azerbaijan is a muslim majority country, in different cultures different symbols are used for Sirius, masons use the five pointed star known as "The Blazing Star", however some muslim countries use the eight pointed star.   Please scroll down link below to "FLAG" where it mentions that the eight pointed star on flag is symbol for Sirius:-

http://www.azembassy...eneral_info.htm

If you look down link below, you will find that 28th May 1918 is a public holiday, very important to Azerbaijan connected to declaration of independence.

http://www.qppstudio.../azerbaijan.htm

Declaration of independence was made in Tbilisi, Georgia, Russia, as they were on the run from communists on 28th May1918, ancient Greek day Marker was used making it sunset on 27th May 1918 in TBILISI, this was intentional, as Sirius set with the Sun at location, link below:-

http://www.dia.edu.az/istiqlal_en.php

Astronomy graph below on link:-

http://2012forum.com...=6697&mode=view

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 11:28 AM

The Pentagon's Groundbreaking ceremony was on 11th September 1941, Ancient Greek day marker, being sunset in Washington D.C., however ceremony must have happened after sunset to comply with ancient esoteric lore (on previous sunset before Sun sets).

http://en.wikipedia....ki/The_Pentagon

This is Thout/Thoth Day:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thout

As Sun set, the Osiris star, Alnilam, Belt of Orion was on Nadir, graph on link below:-

http://2012forum.com...=3889&mode=view

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 11:57 AM

Perhaps there are those that believe in rituals and aligning Sirius, like fictional ritual below:-



Bobby Kennedy was assassinated at approx. 12:15 am on 5th June 1968 in Los Angeles, California, that spawned a variety of conspiracy theories.

http://en.wikipedia....y_assassination

The day was marked by Ancient Greek Daymarker being sunset on 4th June 1968 at location, Sirius sets with the Sun, astronomy graph on link below:-

http://2012forum.com...=3716&mode=view

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 03:04 PM

I hope members in the U.S. and english speaking world can view documentary below, although you have to sit through annoying adverts, it should be available to watch till late in December 2012:-

http://www.channel5....-temple-of-doom

Although this is about a mysterious gold cauldron found in a lake in Germany, it also mentions the pagan beliefs of the top Nazi's including Himmler and his esoteric H.Q. being Wewelsburg Castle, after viewing the above video it made me look through my filing cabinets for my work on this castle, ON 22ND SEPTEMBER 1934 A CEREMONIAL TRANSFER TO HIMMLER TOOK PLACE, which is the Autumn Equinox, being an auspicious date, below is a link about the beliefs of the Autumn Equinox:-

http://www.timeandda...ox-customs.html

To find the date of transfer please scroll down link below to "SS HISTORY INTRODUCTION" and read from this point:-

http://en.wikipedia....wiki/Wewelsburg

It must be valued that i report on strange cults but don't share these beliefs, with this in mind i love Renaissance superstitious poems like the one below by Robert Southey ha ha!

http://www.rc.umd.ed.../cornelius.html

If there were evil doers that believed in unlawful books then the NAZI party fits the criteria!

On 22nd September 1934 at location in Wewelsburg Castle, midnight day marker was chosen for ritual, as Alnilam, Belt of Orion rose in the East, astronomy graph on link below:-

http://2012forum.com...=6743&mode=view

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 03:31 PM

I have many charts of the Nazi party, which must wait to later, as i wish to report on history and Arab Spring movement that is sweeping the Muslim world at the moment, however i will give one more and is about the genesis of the Nazi Party.

The German Workers Party was formed in Munich on 5th January 1919, link below:-

http://en.wikipedia....n_Workers_Party

Midnight day marker was used at location as both Jupiter and Sirius are in the middle of the sky, belief in Jupiter is thought to expand the influence of Sirius, link below:-

http://www.astrostar...tal-Jupiter.htm

This is a fairly rare alignment to get both Jupiter and Sirius culminating at start of the day within 1 degree.

Graph showing this is on link below:-

http://2012forum.com...=5007&mode=view

Edited by monk 56, 03 September 2012 - 03:36 PM.


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Posted 03 September 2012 - 05:52 PM

Hello Monk,

This is all a very interesting mix of history, astronomy/astrology, occultism and conspiracy. However, I am a bottom line type of guy. Therefore, I have two questions?

1) Is there a website you can refer us to where there is an interactive celestial map so we can explore these dates and the positions of celestial bodies (without  interpretation of the implication of the effect their loci or position will have on human activity)?

2) Is there an objective to sharing of this information? (just curious)
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Posted 03 September 2012 - 08:48 PM

Hi Chessnovicer,

I think your best bet is to start a thread on the Science and Space forum on unexplained forums and ask if any have an astronomy programme that you can verify what i say, although belief in the stars use a margin or orb of one degree, a good astronomer will know what i'm trying to show.

My proof comes in a number of points,

1) The conspiracy forum is full of heated debate, and you have astronomers that use the forums, no one is attacking my graphs, plus what i'm showing is very controversial, so i'd better know my stuff,  if people can't find a fault usaully not many answer!

2) I don't care where i write, and have written on very good astronomy forums about explosive religious matters, again if fault can't be found, you usaully get little reply, on link below i wrote anonymously on a much credited astronomy forum, on oath this is me writing in 2007:-

http://cs.astronomy....27/t/29013.aspx

Some astronomy programmes are difficult to operate so i feel that perhaps on the Science and space forums you may find an experienced expert who has one.
I am authentic and genuine, and will go through much of world history showing beliefs attached to world events in time.
The reason i do this is i think that a number of secret societies are in conflict with each other, so there is no New World Order, but the nasty ones do harm our progress, i have no idea who is who as they all use the same stars, we live in a crazy world....i have buckets full of stuff to show yet, and information is power for those that aren't powerful.

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 10:48 PM

To show contrast with duality!

Whatever you feel about the beliefs of the College of Psychic Studies, no evil exists there, i know as i was a member before i was disabled, however you will note that 25th October 1883 is date of establishment, link below:-

http://www.collegeof...ge/history.html

Midnight day marker was chosen at location, when Sirius was rising along horizon in East.

I have to explain now slight difference with position of Sirius regarding Bobby Kennedy's assassination mentioned a few threads back and what i show now with another chart.
The difference between the inaccurate Julian Calendar and the Accurate Gregorian Calendar is only 3 leap days in 400 years, this means that 1600 had a leap day, but 1700, 1800, and 1900 didn't but 2000 did have a leap day. so now i'm talking about 06/06/06 (Symbol of beast belief) in Los Angeles, California,the extra leap day moved Sirius slightly, so if a nasty group were aligning Sirius to ancient Greek day marker, being sunset of previous day on 5th June 2006, Sirius sets with the Sun.

Please scroll down link below about Church of Satan to "Membership",  THEN LOOK UPWARDS TWO PARAGRAPHS, it says On 6th June 2006 the Church of Satan held the first public ritual Satanic Mass in 40 years at the Steve Allen Theater in the Center for Inquiry in Los Angeles!!!

http://en.wikipedia....Church_of_Satan

Good Guys and Bad Guys use the same stars....it is difficult in politics knowing who is who!!

Astronomy graphs on link below:-

http://2012forum.com...=3836&mode=view

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 11:04 PM

Monk,
I appreciate your response. I did not mean to question your veracity but now that you have brought it up, there is a certain amount of light that is now placed on it.

However, I do question the basis for asserting value of certain dates. For example, you assert, "Before i start lets show why 11th September would be valued as special for action....it is New Years Day in the Coptic Calendar, and is valued by many conflicting esoteric orders." (post #1 of this thread.) What significance is it beyond it being the first day of the year for the Coptic religion?  January 1st of no significance to us other than it is the first day of the year? It is a not a day to start a business or begin a nation (or dare I say end 1).

According to the Persian Calendar and Persian tradition the first day (actually the first minute) of the year corresponds with the first minute of spring. This is celebrated by Iranians and Zoroastrians even today. Beyond the start of the year I am not sure it has much more significance. http://en.wikipedia....anian_calendars

Generally, the Chinese New year is the second new moon after the winter solstice. http://en.wikipedia....calendar  While again it is a time for celebration, it is not a date to begin a military or political campaigns, business venture, etc.

Bottom line, if these dates have no significance beyond their numerical order for tracking start and end of a year, then they will not necessarily be the basis for acting or not acting, right? However, if there is a relationship between the position of celestial bodies (i.e. Alnilam) and the success of human activity, my question remains, how can I know where it was position in relation to any of the incidents you cited such as 9/11, camp david accord, etc.? Should I accept your knowledge it was at the zenith or the horizon or the nadir?

Regarding the interactive map... I thought it might be asking a lot but one can never know until one asks. ;)

Edited by chessnovicer, 03 September 2012 - 11:15 PM.

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 11:54 PM

Hi Chessnovicer,

If in doubt find out the best astronomy programme for a beginner, and buy it, obviously i wouldn't want to influence you, so take advice.

9/11's have a history, link below to 1973 Chilean Coup:-

http://globalresearc...es/CHO309A.html

A fringe masonic group was involved called Propaganda Due or P2

Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_Due

C.I.A meddling didn't help matters, link to video below:-

http://www.johnpilge...ar-on-democracy

I'll try to get astronomy graph posted tomorrow, getting tired now, my health isn't good, talk later, thanks for debate Chessnovicer!

Edited by monk 56, 04 September 2012 - 12:05 AM.


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Posted 04 September 2012 - 12:50 AM

Hello Monk, I can't help the feeling that your leading me to some explosive date in the future where everything just lines up perfectly
and "we all" better beware!
Is there a reason for all this research (brilliant though it is) cause I'm feeling scared, and so informed I'm buzzing.
I hope you feel better after your rested cause I truly value your work. :tu:

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 02:35 PM

Hi Chessnovicer,

If you believe in pagan gods then New Year goes beyond resolutions, please scroll down to Religious origins on link below:-

http://en.wikipedia....ears_resolution

The Chile Coup of 11th September 1973 happened in all major cities not only Santiago, indeed Concepcion was badly hit before the capital and had some nasty concentration camps, links below:-

http://thedailystar....er/salvador.htm

http://www.derechosc...sh/quiriqui.htm

The alignment from Concepcion Chile during coup of 11th September 1973 shows Egyptian Sunrise day marker was used, while Alnilam, Belt of Orion was culminating, graph on link below:-

http://2012forum.com...=4256&mode=view

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Posted 04 September 2012 - 02:59 PM

Hi s33ker,

A lot of Mayan Calendar researchers think it originated from Izapa, Mexico, so must be viewed from that point of location, Sirius and Alnilam are marked on 21st December 2012, however i don't think anything awful will happen, but as the day creates fear with some, terrorists could jump on the bandwagon and use that day, we will all be out Christmas shopping, so there is a slight risk attached.

You can look at graphs on link below where i'm discussing this with a member of another forum, hope i'm not breaking the rules here:-

http://2012forum.com...hp?f=59&t=28595





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