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[Alisdair.MacDonald]

Pretty straightforward.

[TheMacGuffin]

Doesn't look like any "NASA video" that I ever saw, and I've seen just about all of the ones that were supposed to be UFOs.  Don't get me wrong, I think just about everyone who ever flew in space has seen UFOs, but this doesn't look like the real McCoy to me. Hell, it doesn't even look like earth.

I recommend the Jeff Challender videos from the space shuttle missions, which show a number of UFOs, no matter whether some of them might be ours or theirs.

[Alisdair.MacDonald]

TheMacGuffin, on 29 August 2012 - 06:06 AM, said:

Doesn't look like any "NASA video" that I ever saw, and I've seen just about all of the ones that were supposed to be UFOs.  Don't get me wrong, I think just about everyone who ever flew in space has seen UFOs, but this doesn't look like the real McCoy to me. Hell, it doesn't even look like earth.

I recommend the Jeff Challender videos from the space shuttle missions, which show a number of UFOs, no matter whether some of them might be ours or theirs.

I thought it looked odd. I can only go by the title of the video on this. My first impression was something from the rover missions. They have actually caught strange things in the sky already. I'm not going to jump to conclusions and say they are UFO's however there definitely is something flying around on Mars.

[TheMacGuffin]

Mider, on 29 August 2012 - 06:20 AM, said:

I thought it looked odd. I can only go by the title of the video on this. My first impression was something from the rover missions. They have actually caught strange things in the sky already. I'm not going to jump to conclusions and say they are UFO's however there definitely is something flying around on Mars.

It looks like a computer animation to me, but I'm no expert--and I think that UFOs and aliens are all over the place and have been throughout recorded history.  Hell, I don't even think we're running the show on this planet, even if we imagine that we are, but that doesn't mean I think every UFO claim is the real thing.

Edited by TheMacGuffin, 29 August 2012 - 06:37 AM.

[lost_shaman]

TheMacGuffin, on 29 August 2012 - 06:06 AM, said:

Doesn't look like any "NASA video" that I ever saw, and I've seen just about all of the ones that were supposed to be UFOs.  Don't get me wrong, I think just about everyone who ever flew in space has seen UFOs, but this doesn't look like the real McCoy to me. Hell, it doesn't even look like earth.

I recommend the Jeff Challender videos from the space shuttle missions, which show a number of UFOs, no matter whether some of them might be ours or theirs.

I agree. Also it's too bad Jeff passed on just before he would have got to see the last of the Shuttle Missions! He had serious health problems but despite them he was passionate about documenting anomalies in NASA video and I know he wanted to see these last Flights but unfortunately did not get to do so.

Here is a link to Jeff's "Project P.R.O.V.E".  http://keyholepublis...ve/index-2.html

And I have to say thanks to Richard Dolan for saving Jeff's site for all of us as he explains the details here.  http://keyholepublis...ender_Page.html

Edited by lost_shaman, 29 August 2012 - 06:48 AM.

[Alisdair.MacDonald]

TheMacGuffin, on 29 August 2012 - 06:26 AM, said:

It looks like a computer animation to me, but I'm not expert--and I think that UFOs and aliens are all over the place and have been throughout recorded history.  Hell, I don't even think we're running the show on this planet, even if we imagine that we are, but that doesn't mean I think every UFO claim is the real thing.

At a certain point i think a person either believes or they don't. That dictates whether or not you see a piece of evidence and either try to validate it, or invalidate it.
Someone who has their mind made up already is not going to waste time trying to convince themselves otherwise. Whereas someone who does believe, yet is skeptical..has a reason to pursue further information. That is why I think  100% skepticism is fruitless. That is why I never try to immediately dismiss something out of hand.

[TheMacGuffin]

Mider, on 29 August 2012 - 06:36 AM, said:

At a certain point i think a person either believes or they don't. That dictates whether or not you see a piece of evidence and either try to validate it, or invalidate it.
Someone who has their mind made up already is not going to waste time trying to convince themselves otherwise. Whereas someone who does believe, yet is skeptical..has a reason to pursue further information. That is why I think  100% skepticism is fruitless. That is why I never try to immediately dismiss something out of hand.

You'll never get any 100% skepticism from me--far from it--I know better.  You're pretty new around here and haven't yet seen the real skeptic/debunker types who think none of it is real.  They're wrong, of course, but they would always like to jump all over things like this.

[Alisdair.MacDonald]

TheMacGuffin, on 29 August 2012 - 06:40 AM, said:

You'll never get any 100% skepticism from me--far from it--I know better.  You're pretty new around here and haven't yet seen the real skeptic/debunker types who think none of it is real.  They're wrong, of course, but they would always like to jump all over things like this.

Hah. I may be new here, but I am not new to...*edited...skeptics.

Edited by Mider, 29 August 2012 - 07:40 AM.

[Abramelin]

This video was taken by the crew of Expedition 31 on board the International Space Station. The sequence of shots was taken from June 24, 2012 from 07:09:03 to 07:13:12 GMT, on a pass from the South Atlantic Ocean, east of southern South America and north of the Falkland Islands, east over the South Atlantic Ocean. This video primarily focuses on the star field and the Milky Way (near the center of the star field) as the ISS travels over the South Atlantic Ocean. Some city lights can be seen, as well as the airglow surrounding the Earth's limb.

http://eol.jsc.nasa....rvationsVideos/

[notoverrated]

that is pretty cool. UFO? yes i have no idea how to identify it. aliens? maybe who knows, there is a possibility .

[Colonel Rhuairidh]

Well, it looks pretty cool, but without (as is often the case) any context as to where or when it may have been filmed or where it was filmed from, it's not really very easy to make any assessment one way or the other, really.

[Abramelin]

I think the general vertical movement is caused by the Space Station orbiting the Earth: what you see is stars.

The few horizontallish (or in an angle) moving objects could be satelltes.

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Edited by Abramelin, 29 August 2012 - 08:36 AM.

[Abramelin]

747400, on 29 August 2012 - 08:34 AM, said:

Well, it looks pretty cool, but without (as is often the case) any context as to where or when it may have been filmed or where it was filmed from, it's not really very easy to make any assessment one way or the other, really.

Well, read again:

This video was taken by the crew of Expedition 31 on board the International Space Station. The sequence of shots was taken from June 24, 2012 from 07:09:03 to 07:13:12 GMT, on a pass from the South Atlantic Ocean, east of southern South America and north of the Falkland Islands, east over the South Atlantic Ocean. This video primarily focuses on the star field and the Milky Way (near the center of the star field) as the ISS travels over the South Atlantic Ocean. Some city lights can be seen, as well as the airglow surrounding the Earth's limb.

[psyche101]

Mider, on 29 August 2012 - 07:09 AM, said:

Hah. I may be new here, but I am not new to...*edited...skeptics.

I am a skeptic and I find your broad brush statement unwarranted and unfair. I see nothing wrong with critical thinking, and learning what facts fit a picture. I am just not the sort of person who finds imagination as satisfying as fact. To me ET on earth to explain that which we do not understand is just another Greek God until he lands. The way ET is shoehorned into most cases is rather shameful IMHO. However I do love space with all passion, and I enjoy the concept of alien life, even Professor Hawking does. I do not see anything wrong with that at all. If I have a belief, it is that all things can be explained with enough time, effort and information. What I do not like is snake oil salesmen with very tall tales, and one is sticking ones head in the sand if one was to say that UFOlogy is not bulging at the sides with such. I would like tomorrow to be the day we find other life, but I do not think ET will be flying across space in one of those little flying saucers and I do not think initial contact will be personal. Between language barriers and quarantine, it would be nothing short of Russian Roulette to do so.

Edited by psyche101, 29 August 2012 - 09:25 AM.

[Alisdair.MacDonald]

psyche101, on 29 August 2012 - 09:24 AM, said:

I am a skeptic and I find your broad brush statement unwarranted and unfair. I see nothing wrong with critical thinking, and learning what facts fit a picture. I am just not the sort of person who finds imagination as satisfying as fact. To me ET on earth to explain that which we do not understand is just another Greek God until he lands. The way ET is shoehorned into most cases is rather shameful IMHO. However I do love space with all passion, and I enjoy the concept of alien life, even Professor Hawking does. I do not see anything wrong with that at all. If I have a belief, it is that all things can be explained with enough time, effort and information. What I do not like is snake oil salesmen with very tall tales, and one is sticking ones head in the sand if one was to say that UFOlogy is not bulging at the sides with such. I would like tomorrow to be the day we find other life, but I do not think ET will be flying across space in one of those little flying saucers and I do not think initial contact will be personal. Between language barriers and quarantine, it would be nothing short of Russian Roulette to do so.

I think you are too easily offended. Lighten up some, and appreciate levity for what it is.

I don't feed trolls.