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[TheMacGuffin]

Chrlzs, on 27 October 2012 - 09:04 AM, said:

Wouldn't it be better to bravely (and perhaps even .. knowledgeably) refute his interpretations?

I for one, can't wait to see that..

It's pretty obvious what we're looking at in many of these videos, and that there are no conventional explanations for many of these luminous, high-speed objects out in space.

We have been detecting UFOs out there in space for as long as we have had the means to detect them, long before there could have been any satellites or spacecraft from earth.

That's just a fact.

[TheMacGuffin]

Much of the time, I have no idea what he's even trying to say and probably he doesn't either.

[TheMacGuffin]

By the way, I said many times that I thought the original video in this thread looked fake to me, but that I sure don't think they all are.

Not only is it wrong to claim that NO astronauts have seen UFOs out in space, I bet that they ALL have at one time or another, no matter whether they talk about them or not.

[booNyzarC]

zoser, on 27 October 2012 - 08:46 PM, said:

What an absolute joke.  

Can you tell us how and why this explanation is such "an absolute joke" zoser?

[TheMacGuffin]

booNyzarC, on 27 October 2012 - 08:55 PM, said:

Can you tell us how and why this explanation is such "an absolute joke" zoser?

By the way, Oberg told a few fibs about Gordo Cooper, and that's putting it very charitably.  I don't like that.

He just must think that he can say anything and no one is ever going to check it.

[Sky Scanner]

TheMacGuffin, on 27 October 2012 - 08:48 PM, said:

Much of the time, I have no idea what he's even trying to say and probably he doesn't either.

Then stick with the posts that you do understand, instead of trying to ridicule those that you don't understand by implying they don't know what they are saying either.

[badeskov]

zoser, on 27 October 2012 - 08:46 PM, said:

What an absolute joke.  

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Please do elaborate.

Cheers,
Badeskov

[TheMacGuffin]

The Sky Scanner, on 27 October 2012 - 08:58 PM, said:

Then stick with the posts that you do understand, instead of trying to ridicule those that you don't understand by implying they don't know what they are saying either.

Is that another "official" rebuke from you?  You're always very easygoing when someone ridicules me, aren't you?

Edited by TheMacGuffin, 27 October 2012 - 09:08 PM.

[booNyzarC]

TheMacGuffin, on 27 October 2012 - 08:58 PM, said:

By the way, Oberg told a few fibs about Gordo Cooper, and that's putting it very charitably.  I don't like that.

He just must think that he can say anything and no one is ever going to check it.

Then I'm sure you can point to the specific 'fibs' you claim he told, right?  Perhaps you can quote him and then explain why it was a 'fib' of some kind?

By all means, please let us know exactly where he did this.

[zoser]

booNyzarC, on 27 October 2012 - 08:55 PM, said:

Can you tell us how and why this explanation is such "an absolute joke" zoser?

I don't mind the debate at all.  What I do find extremely telling is that every time a little detail is wrong, or a misquotation occurs, the skeptics jump on this in an attempt to discredit the poster and the whole argument itself.

This is the same strategy that is employed when discussing Cooper, Jacobs, and the others who have testified.  Find a small non-related detail that is incorrect or something else they have said, discredit that and you discredit their whole original testimony.

That's their tactic.  Detail spotting, then discredit.  I'm not going to judge the strategy myself, I'll let others do that.

[TheMacGuffin]

booNyzarC, on 27 October 2012 - 09:00 PM, said:

Then I'm sure you can point to the specific 'fibs' you claim he told, right?  Perhaps you can quote him and then explain why it was a 'fib' of some kind?

By all means, please let us know exactly where he did this.

I already did on the other thread, such as where Oberg said that he was fired from NASA when I showed that he resigned in 1970.

[zoser]

badeskov, on 27 October 2012 - 08:59 PM, said:

Please do elaborate.

Cheers,
Badeskov

Well, how can an object suddenly shift direction in space?  What is the object emanating from the earth?  What is the flash?  It's totally impossible to explain these things.

What on earth do we have that could move so rapidly?

Edited by zoser, 27 October 2012 - 09:04 PM.

[zoser]

booNyzarC, on 27 October 2012 - 08:55 PM, said:

Can you tell us how and why this explanation is such "an absolute joke" zoser?

Boon you have changed your avatar again.  Is there any significance behind the change?

[Sky Scanner]

TheMacGuffin, on 27 October 2012 - 09:00 PM, said:

Is that another "official" rebuke from you?

It's a polite suggestion, everyone's posting style is different, as is their use of language and the way they express themselves. I'm surprised this needs pointing out to you, since it's just common courtesy to not single someone out like that.

Edited by The Sky Scanner, 27 October 2012 - 09:08 PM.

[booNyzarC]

TheMacGuffin, on 27 October 2012 - 09:02 PM, said:

I already did on the other thread, such as where Oberg said that he was fired from NASA when I showed that he resigned in 1970.

Please, by all means, quote where he supposedly claimed that Cooper was fired.  Good luck finding that.  I don't believe he said that at all.  Here's some help.  Not a word about being "fired" as you have attributed.

Who is 'fibbing' now?  It would appear that you are the one 'fibbing' McG.