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[TheMacGuffin]

Just for laughs, did any of you "scientific skeptics" think to check moon rise and moon set for Arkansas in July 2008?  I thought not.

In Arkansas on July 17, 2008, the moon rose at 8:16 PM, passed the meridian at 12:24 AM and set at 5:16 AM.  If his sighting was early in the morning, the moon would have appeared very low on the horizon--or perhaps not at all.

I submit therefore that whatever he took a picture of was very likely not the moon at all.  LOL.  LOL.


http://www.timeandda...-11&day=1&n=134


And the next day, full moon would have been at 2:59 AM.  So much depends on the exact time of his sighting.  Did our "skeptic" friends even try to look that up?

Edited by TheMacGuffin, 05 September 2012 - 05:19 AM.

[TheMacGuffin]

By the way, sunrise on July 18, 2008 was at 6:10 AM.  So what time was his sighting?  LOL  Early morning.  How early?

http://www.timeandda...n&afl=-11&day=1

[TheMacGuffin]

badeskov, on 05 September 2012 - 04:59 AM, said:

Nobody is trying to make you an enemy because of what you may or may not have seen. .

Sure you are.  You think I don't know that?  You guys have never done anything else, but it changes my mind not one iota.  I know what I saw.

You're the ones who are digging yourselves a big hole, and it's obvious.  Today, you were just being extremely blatant about it.

Edited by TheMacGuffin, 05 September 2012 - 05:06 AM.

[TheMacGuffin]

By the way, the story tells you the approximate time of his sighting, but let the "skeptics" look that up for a change.  I'm not telling.

[Abramelin]

topsecretresearch, on 05 September 2012 - 03:37 AM, said:

Problem is there is a long list of animal reaction cases to UFOs.
I think there was initially a video but since it's an old story the news channel's web site only has a photo.

Dogs also respond odd when you stumble around being drunk. They might go out of your way or start growling.

And this is the title of the article: Jonesboro Man Says He Saw a UFO and We Have the Video!

Now where is that video?

There is non, and most probably there never has been.

[TheMacGuffin]

Abramelin, on 05 September 2012 - 05:25 AM, said:

Now where is that video?

There is non, and most probably there never has been.

There was a news video on KATV in Little Rock, Arkansas, but it's no longer available.

http://www.google.co...Bjv-JlXoTyKAHyw

[Abramelin]

TheMacGuffin, on 05 September 2012 - 05:09 AM, said:

By the way, the story tells you the approximate time of his sighting, but let the "skeptics" look that up for a change.  I'm not telling.

Ah, our very own ex-MIB claiming to have that special, secret info again.

"Gary Kibby of Jonesboro was asleep in his residence at Meadowview Trailer Park when his dogs woke him up at about 4:00 a.m."

He was asleep, yeah. I think he had passed out.

[TheMacGuffin]

Abramelin, on 05 September 2012 - 05:29 AM, said:

Ah, our very own ex-MIB claiming to have that special, secret info again.

"Gary Kibby of Jonesboro was asleep in his residence at Meadowview Trailer Park when his dogs woke him up at about 4:00 a.m."

He was asleep, yeah. I think he had passed out.

Congratulations.  You finally looked something up on your own.

That's right, about 4:00 AM.  So where would he have perceived the location of the moon at that time?

[Abramelin]

TheMacGuffin, on 05 September 2012 - 05:31 AM, said:

Congratulations.  You finally looked something up on your own.

That's right, about 4:00 AM.  So where would he have perceived the location of the moon at that time?

He didn't perceive anything.

And something else: if that video did exist, why publish a screenshot of only a white dot on a black background?

[TheMacGuffin]

Abramelin, on 05 September 2012 - 05:36 AM, said:

He didn't perceive anything.

And something else: if that video did exist, why publish a screenshot of only a white dot on a black background?

Oh, he saw nothing at all?  You know that because you were there?  Or do you have a special source of information?  How do you know that?

Don't ask me where the video is.  I never saw it, and I only know where it isn't.  You'd have to contact the TV station about that.

[lost_shaman]

TheMacGuffin, on 05 September 2012 - 05:31 AM, said:

Congratulations.  You finally looked something up on your own.

That's right, about 4:00 AM.  So where would he have perceived the location of the moon at that time?

Well above the horizon, somewhere around 24-25 degrees or so. What's your point? I thought you were saying if would have "appeared very low on the horizon--or perhaps not at all."

[Colonel Rhuairidh]

People have managed to stretch this out to 9 pages? I admire their tenacity.

[TheMacGuffin]

747400, on 05 September 2012 - 06:39 AM, said:

People have managed to stretch this out to 9 pages? I admire their tenacity.

I think it's very funny, since only I bothered to look up the times of moon rise, moon set and sunrise in Arkansas at that time, yet all the skeptics think I'm a stupid, crazy, dishonest, fanatical imbecile who regards UFOs as some kind of religion.  LOL.  It's obvious that they all hate my guts and attack me constantly, but I always throw a few monkey wrenches into their machinery.

Edited by TheMacGuffin, 05 September 2012 - 07:05 AM.

[JGirl]

TheMacGuffin, on 05 September 2012 - 05:00 AM, said:

Just for laughs, did any of you "scientific skeptics" think to check moon rise and moon set for Arkansas in July 2008?  I thought not.

In Arkansas on July 17, 2008, the moon rose at 8:16 PM, passed the meridian at 12:24 AM and set at 5:16 AM.  If his sighting was early in the morning, the moon would have appeared very low on the horizon--or perhaps not at all.

I submit therefore that whatever he took a picture of was very likely not the moon at all.  LOL.  LOL.


http://www.timeandda...-11&day=1&n=134


And the next day, full moon would have been at 2:59 AM.  So much depends on the exact time of his sighting.  Did our "skeptic" friends even try to look that up?

wow. go to bed already

[lost_shaman]

lost_shaman, on 05 September 2012 - 06:24 AM, said:

Well above the horizon, somewhere around 24-25 degrees or so. What's your point? I thought you were saying if would have "appeared very low on the horizon--or perhaps not at all."

Excuse me I misspoke here. It would be about that far from the point on the horizon it sets more or less but that wouldn't be it's height above the horizon. That should be around 8-10 degrees above the horizon. Still well above the horizon but lower than I had said in the post quoted above.