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#1    Talon

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Posted 29 September 2004 - 01:56 PM

US draft dodger statue sparks row

A row has broken out in a small Canadian town over controversial plans for a memorial to US draft dodgers who avoided taking part in the Vietnam War.
A group of activists from Nelson, British Columbia, had planned to erect a monument to "honour the courageous legacy of Vietnam war resisters".

US veterans groups have criticised the proposal and asked US President George Bush to intervene to stop the project.

Some 125,000 Americans went to Canada during the war to avoid the draft.

Thousands returned to the US in the late 1970s when President Richard Nixon announced an amnesty, but many stayed in Canada.

'Slap in the face'

The project organisers have said they are reconsidering the monument's setting.

The bronze statue of two Canadians reaching out to a US draft dodger was due to be unveiled in Nelson in 2006 as part of the Our Way Home festival celebrating US conscientious objectors.

The head of the largest organisation of combat veterans in the US said he respected freedom of expression, but that the memorial was a "slap in the face to every man and woman who ever served in uniform".

"To honour draft dodgers, deserters, people who brought grief to the families they left behind and anguish to those American men who took their place is an abomination," John Furgess of the Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States said in a statement.

Nelson mayor Dave Elliot said he had been deluged with e-mails and telephone calls since plans for the monument were unveiled earlier this month.

Nelson, about 45 miles (72km) north of the US border, is known for its ski slopes and artists community and relies heavily on income from the tourist trade.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3700254.stm
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Posted 29 September 2004 - 04:39 PM

Draft Dodger statue?

What a joke. rolleyes.gif
Too many people on both sides of the spectrum have fallen into this mentality that a full one half of the country are the enemy for having different beliefs...in a country based on freedom of expression. It is this infighting that allows the focus to be taken away from "we the people" being able to watch, and have control over government corruption and ineptitude that is running rampant in our leadership.

People should be working towards fixing problems, not creating them.

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Posted 29 September 2004 - 04:51 PM

Maybe we should raise a statue for our very own conscientous objectors who bravely went to Iraq to serve as human shields.  Yeah, they came back when the Iraquis wanted them to shield military installations instead of poor innocent waifs and wives, but hey, it's the thought that counts, right?

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Posted 29 September 2004 - 04:59 PM

This is ridiculous, apart from the insult to the veterans, it's an insult to Americans in general.  It's a monument in honor of people who broke the law.  The Canadian government can't possibly be in support of this
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Posted 29 September 2004 - 05:14 PM

What?

How are cowardly people who skipped out on a draft entitled to a monument?

That's stupid.

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Posted 29 September 2004 - 07:11 PM

That monument is tasteless at best. Why in the world would create a monument for draft dodgers ?

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Posted 29 September 2004 - 09:58 PM

They must be joking? What kind of stupid person thought of that stupid idea.

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Posted 29 September 2004 - 09:59 PM

QUOTE
What kind of stupid person thought of that stupid idea.


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Posted 29 September 2004 - 10:03 PM

Bleeding idiots! grin2.gif

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Posted 29 September 2004 - 10:06 PM

Agreed.

Most likely it's those anti-war hippies. Horray they didn't go to war like the war told them too, give them a medal!

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Posted 29 September 2004 - 10:14 PM

I'd be too embarassed to admit I ran away to Canada when my country called for my help.

Take the money that they were going to waste on this stupid statue and use it to help rehabilitate a soldier that actually faced their fears and did fight, there are plenty of kids coming home from Iraq sans all of the appendages that they left home with, I am sure they could use the help.

It's not like any of these guys are going to fight for the right to get the statue.
Too many people on both sides of the spectrum have fallen into this mentality that a full one half of the country are the enemy for having different beliefs...in a country based on freedom of expression. It is this infighting that allows the focus to be taken away from "we the people" being able to watch, and have control over government corruption and ineptitude that is running rampant in our leadership.

People should be working towards fixing problems, not creating them.

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Posted 29 September 2004 - 10:25 PM

Oh I can understand why some fled to Canada and didn't want to go to war, such as pacifism or a strong the belief the war was wrong. But they shouldn't get a statue for it
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Posted 30 September 2004 - 04:45 AM


A statue, a memorial for cowards who ran away and refused to serve their country, thast ridicuolous and although I can understand why they didn`t want to go as Talon said, they dont deserve recognition for running away! This is an insult to all those men and women that went and fought!

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Posted 30 September 2004 - 12:32 PM

Refusing to serve in a war is not cowardly - why should we have to sacrifice our lives for a cause we may not believe in? But I agree that the statue is a stupid idea. I guess the Canadians just don't have anything else to build a statue for. o.O


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Posted 30 September 2004 - 01:15 PM

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