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Posted 14 September 2012 - 06:03 PM

Another positive for me personally is that I can tie a boat to my balcony. If all that ice has melted, I can look down on the sea from my window, instead of travelling to the sea coast which is now 20 kilometers away.

I live in the Netherlands, some 25 meters (75 feet) from the ground.


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Posted 14 September 2012 - 08:26 PM

Not only slow down the next glacial period but possibly stop the next ice-age completely.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 08:40 AM

I suppose warmer weather would mean we actually have a warmer summer for once.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 10:08 AM

View PostMichaelW, on 21 September 2012 - 08:40 AM, said:

I suppose warmer weather would mean we actually have a warmer summer for once.
Quite the opposite in Ireland at least.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 10:13 AM

No more pesky polar bears eating my garbage.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 04:55 AM

View PostBr Cornelius, on 21 September 2012 - 10:08 AM, said:

Quite the opposite in Ireland at least.

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But the climate in Ireland hasn't been cooling for over 30 years has it? All our temperature records have been set in the 1970's and it's only been within the last year or so that the climate has come even remotely close to breaking them.

However, the freaky weather does have some benefits. Some of our ski resorts received some late snow and are now open until November.

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Posted 23 September 2012 - 07:48 AM

View PostMichaelW, on 23 September 2012 - 04:55 AM, said:

But the climate in Ireland hasn't been cooling for over 30 years has it? All our temperature records have been set in the 1970's and it's only been within the last year or so that the climate has come even remotely close to breaking them.

However, the freaky weather does have some benefits. Some of our ski resorts received some late snow and are now open until November.
Precipitation in the west of ireland has been increasing steadily for about a  century at this stage, The records that are currently been set almost anually are records for the last century and where possible beyond.

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 08:49 PM

Less salt used on the roads.


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Posted 04 October 2012 - 03:26 PM

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 03:35 PM

Somewhere I read a piece of research that talks about global warming increasing biodiversity. But there is also reseaarch that says just the opposite.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 03:38 PM

I think the most positive thing about the climate change is that, if you are aware of the things you can do for yourself, we are now able to consciously adapt to those changes. Probably that was true with man all long his evolution. But this time, we have some really great tools for aiding adaption.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 05:38 PM

View Postregeneratia, on 04 October 2012 - 03:38 PM, said:

I think the most positive thing about the climate change is that, if you are aware of the things you can do for yourself, we are now able to consciously adapt to those changes. Probably that was true with man all long his evolution. But this time, we have some really great tools for aiding adaption.
Our agriculture has developed over 2000yrs of relatively stable climate and is highly adapted to local conditions. Adapting to climate change sounds great in theory - until you try to move a crop a 100miles north or south, or you attempt to grow crops in land which has become permanently desiccated or waterlogged. In order to even attempt such shifts would require command style Government planning of a type despised by the very Conservatives who advocate adaption. Otherwise how is a farmer (who knows how to farm his land) going to shift his crop to the place where he knows how to farm.

It really is a bit of a pipe dream to say that we can just simply adapt to the inevitable changes. Its pure filibustering propaganda.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 06:04 AM

Yeah, taht is what we are told. But sometimes we get lied to by lots of different people.
They have had to take a look at the math done long ago, and perhaps reverse a few things. Why not do it with CO2 as well? And then we find that, while once thought to be inert or inaccessible, ancient CO2 is being released into the atmosphere from lakes and rivers, giving far more insight into the earth's feedback loops. Oh dear, just today that news comes out.

It really is so much safer to sit on the fence and watch it all happen, without having to take a side one way or the other. Just sit back. Be objective. Aspire to be like Doug as I do. And maybe we will learn something in the detachment what comes from objectivity.

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OK, you go ahead and you itch and complain about this and that. I, here at home, will be adjusting my planting tables, saving seeds, growing things that don't presently fit my environment (right now it is tiny mango trees, beautiful and small). U will be itching and I will be adapting.

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View PostBr Cornelius, on 04 October 2012 - 05:38 PM, said:

Our agriculture has developed over 2000yrs of relatively stable climate and is highly adapted to local conditions. Adapting to climate change sounds great in theory - until you try to move a crop a 100miles north or south, or you attempt to grow crops in land which has become permanently desiccated or waterlogged. In order to even attempt such shifts would require command style Government planning of a type despised by the very Conservatives who advocate adaption. Otherwise how is a farmer (who knows how to farm his land) going to shift his crop to the place where he knows how to farm.

It really is a bit of a pipe dream to say that we can just simply adapt to the inevitable changes. Its pure filibustering propaganda.

Br Cornelius


Edited by regeneratia, 05 October 2012 - 06:15 AM.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 12:57 PM

View PostBr Cornelius, on 04 October 2012 - 05:38 PM, said:

Our agriculture has developed over 2000yrs of relatively stable climate and is highly adapted to local conditions. Adapting to climate change sounds great in theory - until you try to move a crop a 100miles north or south, or you attempt to grow crops in land which has become permanently desiccated or waterlogged. In order to even attempt such shifts would require command style Government planning of a type despised by the very Conservatives who advocate adaption. Otherwise how is a farmer (who knows how to farm his land) going to shift his crop to the place where he knows how to farm.
In the US we already have the legal and governmental machinery in place to deal with the issue of changes in cropping.  It is a happy accident of our own history and nothing we deliberately set out to do.  It's done through the crop insurance program:  the government simply adjusts the price of insurance for different crops in different locations.  Nothing more than an actuarial process.  In risky areas, the cost of insuring a given crop goes up; in safer areas it goes down.  The market does the rest.
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Posted 05 October 2012 - 01:03 PM

View Postregeneratia, on 05 October 2012 - 06:04 AM, said:

AS far as politics goes, there is no party that fits my sentiments. I am not extreme, and both parties are extreme. I don't have a side of the aisle. I am IN the aisile !!
"Politicians are happy if scientists provide information and then go away and shut up.  But science and policy cannot be divorced.  What I've seen is that politicians often adopt policies that are merely convenient - but that, using readily-available scientific data and empirical information, can be shown to be inconsistent with long-term success."  --Jim Hansen

Bold:  cap-and-trade, for example.

For a review of the politics of global warming, see "Storms of My Grandchildren" by James Hansen.  ISBN 13:978-1608195022.

Also, "The Hockey Stick and the Climate Wars:  Dispatches from the Front Lines" by Michael Mann.  Clumbia University Press, New York.  ISBN 978-0-231-15254-9 and ISBN 978-0-52638-8.

Hansen is better with the politics, but Mann explains the science better, though you can get good info from both.

Another good one is:  "Global Warming:  The Complete Briefing" by John Houghton.  Second edition, Cambridge University Press.  ISBN 0-521-62089-9 and ISBN 0-521-62932-2.
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Edited by Doug1o29, 05 October 2012 - 01:13 PM.

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