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Did man and dinosaur co-exist?


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#1    Harsh86_Patel

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 02:49 PM

http://www.newgeolog...y Carbon-14.pdf


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Posted 13 September 2012 - 02:53 PM

No. The oxygen was different than it is today. There's no way humans would have co-existed with dinosaurs. Also I think they would have been on the menu of meat-eaters.

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 02:55 PM

View PostHarsh86_Patel, on 13 September 2012 - 02:49 PM, said:


How do they radiocarbon date fossilized bone that contains no carbon??

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I see.

But scientists also use thermoluminescence to date the rock the bones are found in, and then you don't need carbon.

So how does a 30,000 years old animal end up in a millions of years old rock layer?



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Edited by Abramelin, 13 September 2012 - 03:03 PM.


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Posted 13 September 2012 - 03:02 PM

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How do they radiocarbon date fossilized bone that contains no carbon??

They used their imagination as with all other creationist yaddah, what else?

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 03:04 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 13 September 2012 - 03:02 PM, said:

They used their imagination as with all other creationist yaddah, what else?

Well, I edited my post because I read the pdf a bit too fast.

I need to check those references at the end of the article. That is, those that link to scientific papers.

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Edited by Abramelin, 13 September 2012 - 03:05 PM.


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Posted 13 September 2012 - 03:08 PM

This the reference at the beginning of the pdf:

http://www.dinosaurc...arbondating.htm

And I meant the references at the end of that webpage.


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Posted 13 September 2012 - 03:11 PM

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Well, I edited my post because I read the pdf a bit too fast.

I need to check those references at the end of the article. That is, those that link to scientific papers.

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Even if, radiocarbon dating is unreliable with samples over 62,000 years, by then  dinos were  fossil already.

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 03:17 PM

http://www.worldbyde...gdinosaurs.html


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Posted 13 September 2012 - 03:20 PM

http://www.newgeolog...entation32.html


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Posted 13 September 2012 - 03:22 PM

potassium argon dating is highly erroneous and inaccurate and stupid.


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Posted 13 September 2012 - 03:25 PM

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Nobody doubts that you will get some boolcrappy results trying to date objects out of the reliability window. If something has been dead for 30 days you are capable of detecting it quite well with your nose, if its been dead 300 years you will have a problem smelling it.

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 03:43 PM

If modern humans had lived at the same time as the dinosaurs, humans would have gone the way of the dinosaurs.

And we would have found more than just same vague human-looking tracks crossing dinosaur tracks, we would have found fossilized human remains in the same layers as where the dinosaur bones were found.

And if humans lived back then, so did all the present mammals and other animals. Elephants and hippos would soon have been whiped out by T-Rex and his family.

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 03:53 PM

It's a little silly to think about, especially in the way we view evolution. I'm gonna answer no on this one until we find a human and velociraptor struggle. And as Abramelin pointed out, there's little to no actual evidence for the idea.

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 03:58 PM

View PostAbramelin, on 13 September 2012 - 03:43 PM, said:

If modern humans had lived at the same time as the dinosaurs, humans would have gone the way of the dinosaurs.

And we would have found more than just same vague human-looking tracks crossing dinosaur tracks, we would have found fossilized human remains in the same layers as where the dinosaur bones were found.

And if humans lived back then, so did all the present mammals and other animals. Elephants and hippos would soon have been whiped out by T-Rex and his family.

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And your name would be Abramelrock and Id be Mulestone...

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Posted 13 September 2012 - 04:00 PM

View PostThe Mule, on 13 September 2012 - 03:58 PM, said:

And your name would be Abramelrock and Id be Mulestone...
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