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#31    Yamato

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Posted 16 September 2012 - 10:22 PM

View PostRender, on 14 September 2012 - 08:43 AM, said:

I don't understand why ppl would have to buy sodas in supermarkets and sneak them in.

Nobody is banning sugary drinks as a whole right? They're simply banning the overly large containers.

Also, from the article:
So, knowing about this correlation...isn't it worth just trying it?
Why not make us eat our carrots and green beans?   What about their correlations?  How about banning cigarettes?  How correlated is death to those?  

Soda is one of the most unhealthy things we can put in our bodies.   My personal code says even one ounce is an ounce too many.   I'm thankful government has figured out for us that servings of sugary soda less than 16 ounces aren't bad for our health and that it's okay, after all that important paperwork got done, to just have a can-sized serving.  

At least the aluminum industry won't mind.  Government and where it draws its lines have no place in the market place.


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Posted 17 September 2012 - 06:39 AM

View PostThe Mule, on 16 September 2012 - 06:34 PM, said:



Let the giant corporations that sell it do that work for you. Restraint of trade. They'll figure it out.

Oh they will,I am sure,but a class action suit,against this *******,by hundreds of pissed of new Yorkers ,needs to be done at this point .
He does as he pleases,and walks all over us. Business owners comply because they don't want his fines,where he can make more money,as he screws us all.
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Posted 19 September 2012 - 08:06 AM

Higher Levels of BPA in Children and Teens Significantly Associated With Obesity

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bisphenol A (BPA), a synthetic chemical recently banned by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) from sippy cups and baby bottles. Still, the chemical continues to be used in aluminum cans, such as those containing soda.

“This is the first association of an environmental chemical in childhood obesity in a large, nationally representative sample,” said lead investigator Leonardo Trasande, MD, MPP, associate professor of pediatrics and environmental medicine. “Our findings further demonstrate the need for a broader paradigm in the way we think about the obesity epidemic. Unhealthy diet and lack of physical activity certainly contribute to increased fat mass, but the story clearly doesn’t end there.”


http://www.scienceda...20918111125.htm


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Posted 19 September 2012 - 08:16 AM

View PostRender, on 19 September 2012 - 08:06 AM, said:

[b] Higher Levels of BPA in Children and Teens Significantly Associated With Obesity

http://www.scienceda...20918111125.htm

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the researchers found children with the highest levels of urinary BPA had 2.6 times higher odds of being obese than those with the lowest measures of urinary BPA. Among the participants with the highest levels, 22.3 percent were obese compared with 10.3 percent of the participants with the lowest levels.

Might it be that there are higher levels of BPA in these kids, not because they are Obese, but because Obese kids drink more soda? The problem that should be concentrated on is the Obesity. Fix the dietary issues with the obese kids and the BPA levels will drop significantly. As will high salinity urinary output, high vitamen output, high fat output, and several other issues that come from eating a horrendous diet.

These seems like saying a whale has high salinity in their urine and they eat shrimp. But the obvious fact is that the whale lives in the ocean and drinks salty water.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 10:50 AM

Shouldn't people take personal responsibility for their weight? And parents for their children's? When did the government have to come in and be all 'my gosh guys, you DO need me to take care of you'. No, let us be intentionally unhealthy because we're adults, not the governments children.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 10:58 PM

View PostHasina, on 19 September 2012 - 10:50 AM, said:

Shouldn't people take personal responsibility for their weight? And parents for their children's? When did the government have to come in and be all 'my gosh guys, you DO need me to take care of you'. No, let us be intentionally unhealthy because we're adults, not the governments children.
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Posted 20 September 2012 - 02:40 PM

This is the same guy that's trying to make electronic cigarettes in NYC illegal as well. Nevermind that they're the FAR better alternative to actually smoking cigarettes which are still VERY legal. Because I'm an e-cig user, who has successfully quit cigarettes using them (after a 30 year habit that frequently exceeded a pack and a half a day) I'm annoyed with these yahoos who have no medical background but are legislating health. Why would NYC try to ban an extremely effective harm reduction tool?  I don't get it.

In fact, since I quit smoking 7 months ago, I feel SO much better ... I've started watching what I eat more and more. I've actually switched from diet sodas which wreak havoc with your metabolism, back to cane sugar sodas... it probably equals out to less than 8 ozs a day though. I've added calories, but LOST weight since doing so. I figure since I have piss poor medical insurance, I should probably get my healthy on... I'm not getting any younger.

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 05:25 PM

I'm torn with this.    While I gernerally dislike the government messing with our business.

But we are a fat country.   People suck down the sugery sodas by the gallon.   Gas stations practically give away 44 ounce drinks.
I don't live in New York, so I'm not affected by it at this point.


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Posted 20 September 2012 - 11:34 PM

View PostMyles, on 20 September 2012 - 05:25 PM, said:

I'm torn with this.    While I gernerally dislike the government messing with our business.

But we are a fat country.   People suck down the sugery sodas by the gallon.   Gas stations practically give away 44 ounce drinks.
I don't live in New York, so I'm not affected by it at this point.

You're only torn because you don't care for these things. I don't care much for 40oz of pop either but I recognize the ills of this type of legislation. I think you do too. Wait until you here of something like this that affects something you like. You'll see the bad side then.


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Posted 21 September 2012 - 12:10 AM

We all got to be healthy by cutting out excess sugar, fats, carbs, calories, salt, cholesterol and *gasp* soft drinks. Nobody should force others to live in a way they think is good for them. The "Nanny state" is bound to fail inable to keep everyone safe from alledged harmful substances such as large sized soda cups. The law should be enforcable, if not the law won't do. We passed laws against public smoking and intoxication, keeping alcohol and cigarettes out of minors' hands, and even illegal drugs doesn't seem to be adhered by everyone, making these laws look pointless and only penalizes not prevents these behaviors.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 12:49 AM

Sugar is sugar, corn syrup, cane, beet, honey, the body reacts to it the same way. So buying soda from Mexico isn't going to help much on calories  or how it effects the body.  They aren't banning soda just the giant sizes.  I don't think that is such a bad thing.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 02:33 AM

View PostDarkwind, on 21 September 2012 - 12:49 AM, said:

Sugar is sugar, corn syrup, cane, beet, honey, the body reacts to it the same way.

Maybe you missed the study that showed that cancer loves High Fructose Corn Syrup (HFCS) much more than regular sugar.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 03:04 AM

View Postninjadude, on 21 September 2012 - 02:33 AM, said:



Maybe you missed the study that showed that cancer loves High Fructose Corn Syrup (HFCS) much more than regular sugar.

What doesn't cause cancer? There's a study for everything causing cancer or some other disease.


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Posted 21 September 2012 - 03:17 AM

View PostIs it for real, on 21 September 2012 - 03:04 AM, said:

What doesn't cause cancer? There's a study for everything causing cancer or some other disease.

I did not say it CAUSED cancer, I said cancer LOVES HFCS more.

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Posted 21 September 2012 - 03:45 AM

View Postninjadude, on 21 September 2012 - 03:17 AM, said:

I did not say it CAUSED cancer, I said cancer LOVES HFCS more.

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