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Should "under God" be omitted from the Pledge

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Poll: Should "under God" be omitted from the Pledge of Allegiance? (30 member(s) have cast votes)

Should "under God" be omitted from the Pledge of Allegiance?

  1. Yes. (17 votes [56.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 56.67%

  2. No. (8 votes [26.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 26.67%

  3. You have the right to omit it when you are saying it. (5 votes [16.67%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.67%

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#1    Supersquatch

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 10:57 PM

Should the words "under God" be legally omitted from the Pledge of Allegiance? It would seem so, as America is a secular state.

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 10:59 PM

as an atheist....is doesnt really bother me....i chose option 3

they guy who took this to court and won...I really dont think it was about religion in the first place. Divorced dad...no custody...it was about control. At least thats my take on it. Religious stuff doesnt bother me. Its there. Big whip. doesnt hurt me. I ignore it.

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 11:00 PM

if it bother you just dont say it, if you want to say it just say it.....pretty simple stuff :P

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 11:22 PM

No
Actually makes more sense to me in context if you don't believe in an actual god. One nation under God as a fictional dude would be better then One nation under the president  or One nation under the king because the president or king would be real and that would be giving him waaaaaaaaaay to much power.  I pretty much see it as a slam to England and their Church not as a religious thing so it doesn't bother me at all.


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Posted 14 September 2012 - 11:36 PM

View PostJinxdom, on 14 September 2012 - 11:22 PM, said:

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Actually makes more sense to me in context if you don't believe in an actual god. One nation under God as a fictional dude would be better then One nation under the president  or One nation under the king because the president or king would be real and that would be giving him waaaaaaaaaay to much power.  I pretty much see it as a slam to England and their Church not as a religious thing so it doesn't bother me at all.
I never thought about it as a slam..hehe that's funny.  But originally it was "One nation, indivisible with liberty and justice for all"  Which makes us more inclusive (sounding anyway) so as the original guys laid it out we should not have any "God" in government.  But come to think of it there's no government in government (not an Obama slam, settle down) anymore so something has got to fill the void....

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 12:08 AM

As long as no one tries to assert their version of 'God' on to the nation, I think that you guys will be okay.


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Posted 15 September 2012 - 12:53 AM

As a believer in a God, take it out. It wasn't there to begin with, it doesn't need to be there. No harm to me, or anyone else.

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 01:03 AM

To quote Kazoo, 'Meh'.

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 01:04 AM

could of also been a subtle diss towards communism as well now that I think about it.

Edited by Jinxdom, 15 September 2012 - 01:05 AM.


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Posted 15 September 2012 - 08:34 AM

The word God appears from time to time in Australian political documents, but it doesn't particularly bother me because the way I see it God is just what religious people call Nature.

As for the pledge of allegience, why would a supposedly free country have one?

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 11:32 AM

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As for the pledge of allegience, why would a supposedly free country have one?

The pledge is not required of anyone. There is, at most, some social pressure, since its recitation involves an overt gesture (placing the right hand where some people think their heart is). I can't recall ever reciting it as an adult, nor being asked to. Even in grade school, I mostly remember it as a vocabulary exerice, since "indivisible" wasn't otherwise a word I used everyday as a kid.

When I did cease to believe in God (age 11-ish, and not knowing that Lincoln's God may well have been deist), I stopped saying "under God." I just did it. Nobody said anything, including me. To do this day, I cannot see the point of making  sure everybody knows I'm doing something that nobody is stopping me from doing in the first place.

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 12:07 PM

I am a believer in God.. But I never say it..I don't have to

Edited by Beckys_Mom, 15 September 2012 - 12:08 PM.

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Posted 15 September 2012 - 01:50 PM

I find it to be both extremely repulsive, and disconcerting that our constitutions are governed by a fictitious being. If I ever get voted into office as a Prime Minister, religion will be the first on my list to eradicate. I believe a scientific revolution is necessary.


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Posted 15 September 2012 - 02:24 PM

I think it should be omitted. It wasn't there originally. And really, we aren't one nation under God- we have a wide variety of faiths, not just one. Sometimes it seems like the argument about God is something that divides us rather than making us indivisible.


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Posted 15 September 2012 - 02:55 PM

Should be replaced with "stupidity".   It really piss off my Mother when they put it in. She went to school during the 40's when god wasn't in it.

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