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#31    Harsh86_Patel

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 11:06 AM

View PostImaginarynumber1, on 24 September 2012 - 10:55 AM, said:

Your premise is wrong. Why add needless traits to an animal that lived primary in land and would have no need of such attributes. It makes no sense


Why would a horse need a horn? Their main defensive capabilities are speed and feet. They don't hunt, they don't have exotic courtship behavior. They'd have no need of it. I cannot imagine a scenario in which a horn on a horse would be selected for.
Just because you don't understand evolution doesn't make it false.
What if the horn helped it in defence as it does to many land mammals and compounded with the speed of the horse it could be deadly.Utility of the wings doesn't need any explaination.There are numerous scenarios where this could be advantageous,and imagining one is not very difficult.Even a deer which is a very fast runner has horns also who said unicorns wouldn't use horns to attract mates.

When you say 'needless' do you mean vestigial organs?


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Posted 24 September 2012 - 11:06 AM

View PostHarsh86_Patel, on 24 September 2012 - 10:51 AM, said:

Also i would like to ask you could the unicorn have evolved and be a real creature over 'billions' of years and with 'random beneficial mutation' and 'evolutionary pressure'?

Well, as every thread turns into a troll bullsh1tting about evolution, I could as well add my nonsense:

View Postthe L, on 28 May 2012 - 08:31 PM, said:

Also Aristotele and Pliny wrote that Unicorn live in India.
Persians  also said that Unicorn lived in India.
And German priest Bernhard von Breydenbach saw unicorn on his voyage to Holy land and wrote about it. In 1483.

View PostAbramelin, on 29 May 2012 - 06:40 AM, said:

And they were right: unicorns do live in India:

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Edited by Abramelin, 24 September 2012 - 11:07 AM.


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Posted 24 September 2012 - 11:08 AM

View PostAbramelin, on 24 September 2012 - 11:06 AM, said:

Well, as every thread turns into a troll bullsh1tting about evolution, I could as well add my nonsense:

I can't take it anymore. I don't know why I keep getting roped in... I have a problem.

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 11:11 AM

View PostHarsh86_Patel, on 24 September 2012 - 11:06 AM, said:

What if the horn helped it in defence as it does to many land mammals and compounded with the speed of the horse it could be deadly.Utility of the wings doesn't need any explaination.There are numerous scenarios where this could be advantageous,and imagining one is not very difficult.Even a deer which is a very fast runner has horns also who said unicorns wouldn't use horns to attract mates.

When you say 'needless' do you mean vestigial organs?

Horses don't need wings. They are fast and live in plains areas. They do not hunt. Wings would be pointless. Again, horses are not predators. Even though a horned horse would be deadly, they are not predators.
Unicorns might very well use horns to attract mates. We all know they vomit skittles and sh!t rainbows, after all.

And by needless I mean needless, not vestigial.

I'm no longer taking part in your crazy.

Edited by Imaginarynumber1, 24 September 2012 - 11:11 AM.

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 11:13 AM

You know 'he' is not really discussing anything, he is just pulling your strings, aka 'trolling'.


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Posted 24 September 2012 - 11:20 AM

View PostAbramelin, on 24 September 2012 - 11:13 AM, said:

You know 'he' is not really discussing anything, he is just pulling your strings, aka 'trolling'.
Though your version of the Unicorn is really scary,and i don't think it would every fly :yes:


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Posted 24 September 2012 - 11:22 AM

View PostImaginarynumber1, on 24 September 2012 - 11:11 AM, said:

Horses don't need wings. They are fast and live in plains areas. They do not hunt. Wings would be pointless. Again, horses are not predators. Even though a horned horse would be deadly, they are not predators.
Unicorns might very well use horns to attract mates. We all know they vomit skittles and sh!t rainbows, after all.

And by needless I mean needless, not vestigial.

I'm no longer taking part in your crazy.
You started it.I just put a statement that i thought was coherent.


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Posted 24 September 2012 - 12:14 PM

View PostClobhair-cean, on 24 September 2012 - 09:47 AM, said:

Read the article I posted way back.

Also, consider that humans are horribly inefficient swimmers. Michael Phelps, who is not even the fastest swimmer of all time can reach about 4.7 mph. An otter is faster than that, and that's a much smaller animal. Blue whales can go four times as fast as him.

I've read it from nonscientific sources that even deer can swim twice as fast as Phelps and you wouldn't really consider them to have any aquatic adaptations.
Unsure of your point, we are not the fastest runners either. Why would the theory have anything do with swimming FAST?

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 12:24 PM

View PostImaginarynumber1, on 24 September 2012 - 09:43 AM, said:

I will just state that I PERSONALLY believe the AAH to be bunk and that no professor nor adviser that I have ever worked with/for has ever taken it seriously for many of the reason mentioned. Also, there is no evidence to back it up.
Fair enough, each to their own.

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 12:48 PM

View PostHarsh86_Patel, on 24 September 2012 - 10:36 AM, said:

Prejudice is the enemy of true knowledge,the truth is that some of these scientists and researchers rely on their current views relegiously and probably more then religious people do.
I agree.

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 12:50 PM

View PostAbramelin, on 24 September 2012 - 11:13 AM, said:

You know 'he' is not really discussing anything, he is just pulling your strings, aka 'trolling'.
No he's not. He had relevant things to say.

By the way, I liked your post on sideways wading. That is the way Id think is easiest to swim, I do it alot actually when I'm in a pool, going sideways with gentle kick leg motions, because it's easy and takes minimal effort.

Edited by The Puzzler, 24 September 2012 - 12:58 PM.

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 01:34 PM

View PostThe Puzzler, on 24 September 2012 - 12:14 PM, said:

Unsure of your point, we are not the fastest runners either. Why would the theory have anything do with swimming FAST?

Swimming efficiently. When it comes to running, we are really well-suited for endurance and not for speed. In swimming, we excel in nothing.

Also, consider that our swimmers use unnatural techniques. A human paddling along without any training is about as good a swimmer as a moderately talented log.


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Posted 24 September 2012 - 04:11 PM

View PostImaginarynumber1, on 24 September 2012 - 11:11 AM, said:

Horses don't need wings. They are fast and live in plains areas. They do not hunt. Wings would be pointless. Again, horses are not predators. Even though a horned horse would be deadly, they are not predators.
Unicorns might very well use horns to attract mates. We all know they vomit skittles and sh!t rainbows, after all.

And by needless I mean needless, not vestigial.

I'm no longer taking part in your crazy.

Unicorns don't do all that but Nyan Cat does...





Following that same line of thinking... why would reptiles need wings if we were told that scales broke apart and made feathers?  Why would some humans be born with horns also?


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Posted 24 September 2012 - 04:17 PM

Tyhe Aquatic Ape is false no fact. The is nothing in the fossil record, No bones found to prove this.


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Posted 24 September 2012 - 04:27 PM

Are there any records of a mammal species regaining the ability to breath underwater?





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