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[Stardrive]

Yes we all seek answers. I have a decent theory, but that's it, no corpse. The more I think about it though, it may be best to just post links that state fact and let the reader decide. I'm about burned out on circular arguments. I'll use your comment as an example.

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Thing is it was just a funky smell, for all I know it was a group of smelly Frenchmen taking a hike nearby, however I've smelled all sorts of creatures in my years of hiking, hunting and camping. However this was like nothing I'd ever smelled before and as I said, it was just a smell.

The silverback releases chemicals called pheromones from glands in his armpits, which have a strong odour. This is known as the ‘fear smell’ as it can warn other gorilla of impending danger and is a signal of excitement and aggression.
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[keninsc]

I don't have any issues discussing our own beliefs, theories, drunken observations. I have mine, you have yours, someone else has theirs. I try not to beat up anyone for having a theory or a different belief, but at the same time I can't bring myself to endorse something I find to be so far out in left field that I have to be high in order for it to make sense.

I will say that if I ever smell the smell again I will drop whatever I'm doing and pursue it to the best of my ability.

[King Fluffs]

I've not seen that show over here in the UK.
I'm a big fan of Grylls though.

[Stardrive]

keninsc, on 29 September 2012 - 05:51 PM, said:

I don't have any issues discussing our own beliefs, theories, drunken observations. I have mine, you have yours, someone else has theirs. I try not to beat up anyone for having a theory or a different belief, but at the same time I can't bring myself to endorse something I find to be so far out in left field that I have to be high in order for it to make sense.

I will say that if I ever smell the smell again I will drop whatever I'm doing and pursue it to the best of my ability.

I was actually kind of hoping a search engine savvy member would find an alternative explanation for what you experienced. I'll check back.

[Sakari]

Stardrive, on 29 September 2012 - 09:07 PM, said:

I was actually kind of hoping a search engine savvy member would find an alternative explanation for what you experienced. I'll check back.

There are explanations, but without the witness seeing said explanations at the time, there is no " proof ".

[keninsc]

Stardrive, on 29 September 2012 - 09:07 PM, said:

I was actually kind of hoping a search engine savvy member would find an alternative explanation for what you experienced. I'll check back.

There could be any number of explanations to account for the seriously funky smell I smelled, none of them necessarily having anything to do with a Bigfoot. In fact, at the time I really didn't think of anything like that, my only conscious thought at the time was, "What the **** is that stinking like Lucifer's a-hole?". It was so strong I couldn't smell the scent of the fox urine I was using as a cover scent. Now yes, I did recall reading later that Bigfoots are supposed to have a foul odor and it was shortly after that that my first friend shared his story with me and that got me to wondering if maybe it had been, but it's only conjecture on my part and not proof of anything. Other than I smelled a funky smell in the woods one day twenty years ago in Floyd County, Ga.

Now I did look around carefully, I was deer hunting and had to be careful about my movements, but saw nothing and heard nothing. It was early December and most anything not on a well worn trail was going to make noise from the leaves crunching underfoot. Like I said, it wasn't until after my first friend shared his encounter that I wondered if maybe it had been one.

I am very familiar with animal smells even under different weather conditions, for instance a wet dog has a very different smell than a dry one. Just to cite one instance. This didn't smell like anything I've ever smelled before or since and my best description of it is a combination of extreme body odor, old wet gym socks, musk from a rutting buck and a little bit of skunk spray maybe. Honestly, I thought it was going to singe the hairs in my nose.

Edited by keninsc, 30 September 2012 - 01:05 AM.

[Boo Berry]

I'd be interested to hear about his second experience he mentioned in that interview.

[keninsc]

Oh, and to add on the subject of Bear Grylls, I think he's pretty cool. He's done more stuff than most of us will ever dream of doing. Yes, he did spend nights in hotels and eat fast food on the road while he was shooting his show. However, had any of you bothered to read his disclaimer, it says some scenes are staged to depict real events. He doesn't need to break his leg, set the bone, make a splint out of a piece of old barbed wire and a couple of sticks in order to get the point across. He also drank water squeezed from elephant poops once......nice fresh elephant poop. Weren't no stand ins or trick photography on that and he didn't order it from room service.

Bear is alright in my book.

[orangepeaceful79]

I'd say that Bear and Les are shooting for totally different outcomes.  Bear's show is geared more for the entertainment aspect, while Les's show is educational first while being interesting second.

Bear does amazing feats of strength, agility, brazenness, and stomach churning consumption.  These all make for good TV.  While Les's show teaches you how to stay alive and uninjured long enough to survive and either make it out or get found. Les has to be smart in his show, showing viewers how to stay safe above all else - why?  Because thats what he has to do - its just him and the cameras he lugs around.  He isn't going to jump across a ravine, or go climbing some rock face because he knows he doesn't have the luxury of a camera crew and medical team waiting in the wings in case the next rock-with-his-c ock-out move gets him injured seriously.

If you are going to learn true to form real life survival skills - watch Les.  If you want to watch a survival-themed entertainment-fest, watch Bear.  Different shows for different purposes.

[Rafterman]

orangepeaceful79, on 30 September 2012 - 02:26 AM, said:

I'd say that Bear and Les are shooting for totally different outcomes.  Bear's show is geared more for the entertainment aspect, while Les's show is educational first while being interesting second.

Bear does amazing feats of strength, agility, brazenness, and stomach churning consumption.  These all make for good TV.  While Les's show teaches you how to stay alive and uninjured long enough to survive and either make it out or get found. Les has to be smart in his show, showing viewers how to stay safe above all else - why?  Because thats what he has to do - its just him and the cameras he lugs around.  He isn't going to jump across a ravine, or go climbing some rock face because he knows he doesn't have the luxury of a camera crew and medical team waiting in the wings in case the next rock-with-his-c ock-out move gets him injured seriously.

If you are going to learn true to form real life survival skills - watch Les.  If you want to watch a survival-themed entertainment-fest, watch Bear.  Different shows for different purposes.

Les makes a couple of digs at Bear in this latest season saying things like "this isn't you versus mother nature, it's you surviving mother nature".

[keninsc]

Shoot! Bear'd kick his ass.

[keninsc]

To get back on topic, I do have a great deal of respect for Les and his skills in the wilderness. If he encountered something he couldn't readily explain then I have to give him some serious consideration. Now, having said that, I also have to consider that he's on TV.......know what I mean? Granted he stopped short of say, "I heard a Bigfoot.", but he planted the seed in everyone's mind that that was what he heard. Now while I'm no expert on Bigfoot sounds, I don't recall really ever hearing or reading anything about Bigfoots making ape-like sounds as he described. Maybe there are some but I'm going with my memory and I'm operating with a 1952 processor and don't see any chance of getting an upgrade in the near future.

All I've ever heard are the loud screaming/howls and whoops of alleged Bigfoots, but those were at distance, if we take Les's story as being more accurate than the average Bear, no pun intended, then perhaps up close they use more ape-like communication patterns. Hey, I'm just sort of thinking out loud here, ok?

[Rafterman]

It's also clear from the episode and some of his interviews, that he was much more unnerved by his jaguar encounter than he was by whatever this could have been.

[keninsc]

Rafterman, on 30 September 2012 - 01:30 PM, said:

It's also clear from the episode and some of his interviews, that he was much more unnerved by his jaguar encounter than he was by whatever this could have been.

Probably because he didn't know what it was, if I knew a lion or tiger was in my immediate area I'd be much more fearful than if a Biggy. Mainly because no one's ever been attacked by one that I know of, and of course it depends on how heavily armed I am. Fear and lack of weapons are inversely proportional.

[Stardrive]

keninsc, on 30 September 2012 - 12:55 AM, said:

There could be any number of explanations to account for the seriously funky smell I smelled, none of them necessarily having anything to do with a Bigfoot.

My friend and I went fishing one day at the river. When we got there we found a nice spot and threw in our lines. No sooner than we did, we noticed a really bad smell. How bad was it Stardrive? It could have removed paint off cinderblock. We looked around but didn't see anything and couldn't figure out what it was or where it was coming from. But as we fished the stench just got stronger so we had to move. While we were walking we came upon the culprit. Someone had caught and killed a large snapping turtle and just threw on the bank. So yeah, there's lots of other things it could have been.

I know 4 people in my area that have seen a Bigfoot. 3 good friends and my girlfriends brother. I may have seen a dead one on interstate back in the 80's, but I never got up the nerve to get a better look, so I'll never know for sure what it was.