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Does the name Jesus make you mad? Why ?

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#31    Mantis914

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 08:30 PM

I don't get angry over religious terms however if you want to talk about mathematical terms, I become irate, in particular, number progressions and anything having to do with Intermediate Algebra.  I was a hoot in Cal 1...  :)


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Posted 11 October 2012 - 08:45 AM

Jesus -  Kind, loving, never nagged, judged,condemned,  slammed other peoples beliefs, .never smug, .He accepted people for who they were ..  Result -  Poor guy takes a trashing of his life, and suffers a cruel death

Many of his followers  - Nagged, judged, slammed, preached non stop,  condemned .very smug,  Not accepting of others beliefs.. ( If you aren't like them, you've had it )  Judged some more,  - Result - Stand proud and say they will be rewarded  in heaven ..!!!

Unlike many of his followers ...  Jesus got the rough end of the stick ..!!

Point here is -  I doubt it is the name Jesus that ticks people off..

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 09:44 AM

View PostUrisk, on 02 October 2012 - 04:37 PM, said:

Hmmm. I use the word when I'm angry or irritated... usually followed by the word "wept". Does that count?
lol, I do the same.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 09:45 AM

View PostBeckys_Mom, on 11 October 2012 - 08:45 AM, said:

Jesus -  Kind, loving, never nagged, judged,condemned,  slammed other peoples beliefs, .never smug, .He accepted people for who they were ..  Result -  Poor guy takes a trashing of his life, and suffers a cruel death

Many of his followers  - Nagged, judged, slammed, preached non stop,  condemned .very smug,  Not accepting of others beliefs.. ( If you aren't like them, you've had it )  Judged some more,  - Result - Stand proud and say they will be rewarded  in heaven ..!!!

Unlike many of his followers ...  Jesus got the rough end of the stick ..!!

Point here is -  I doubt it is the name Jesus that ticks people off..
Maybe the key question should be - does the name "Christian" tick you off. :w00t:

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 11:19 AM

Scene: Josesph and Mary inside Joseph's carpenter's shop, Joseph frantically trying to hammer an unwilling nail into a plank. Then Joseph's hits his thumb with great force, and yells:

"Jesus Christ !!!"

Mary: "Hey, that would be a nice name for our little boy!"

And that, my friends, is how it all started.


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Posted 11 October 2012 - 11:48 AM

View PostlibstaK, on 11 October 2012 - 09:45 AM, said:

Maybe the key question should be - does the name "Christian" tick you off. :w00t:

Now you're talking  lol

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 12:50 PM

View PostlibstaK, on 11 October 2012 - 09:45 AM, said:

Maybe the key question should be - does the name "Christian" tick you off. :w00t:

Nah. Just fills me with pity.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 12:57 PM

Those words do not make me angry at all. What I find disagreable is the arrogance and smug condescending smiles of those who write He instead of he etc. Also the assumption that because that religion has been in existance for 2 000 years then it must be the "truth" and that any alternate view is heresy, satanism, childishness etc. I know the vast majority of those who describe themselves as Christian are perfectly reasonable, normal people. I think that as alternate views are no longer punished by death, and Christianity wanes, then we are left with a rump of fundamentalists who misrepresent the majority. It is those fundies that use those words in a such an arrogant manner that causes irritation. And also their use of quasi Bolshevik tactics to disrupt dialogue about such matters. And the endless bible readings from some posters :wacko:


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Posted 11 October 2012 - 05:55 PM

It doesn't make me any more angry than any other name I've ever heard. What I do despise are the "sing-along" segments at the beginning of a church service that say Jesus 900 plus times as if he didn't hear it the first time. I have serious doubts that God cares what his name is, nor does he care that others know it. Ultimately it makes no difference what you know, but how you apply your knowledge; and the limit to one's application reflects one's passion for the subject. In any case, I can't envision a God sooo egocentric that he'd have to be reminded of what his name is, nor would he place value in whether or not we knew it; rather, he would invest his time observing and calculating with great detail how we in turn invest ourselves in each other. At the end of the day he would evaluate our performance not on how well we sang in church, but rather how we stopped to help someone stuck on the side of the rode change a flat tire. Furthermore, if singing over and over about how "great" God is is a means to boost one's knowledge of said greatness, then it makes me wonder exactly how many times must it be done before it's actually believed and committed to memory before moving on to more pressing matters. To reflect upon my previous statement, to have a passion for something without an educated knowledge of what it is you're passionate about is like the guy who says he knows martial arts (making him an accomplished martial artist) because he took a few classes at the Y over the summer. The fact is the man is a fool.   

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 05:57 PM

Just to clarify, I do not subscribe to any faith based religion of any sort or any religious dogma whatsoever.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 06:02 PM

View PostSpiritWriter, on 02 October 2012 - 01:36 AM, said:

It seems that the name Jesus  stirs up alot of controversy and "feelings",

what are those feelings?

why is it upsetting?

what is your biggest grief with religion

abrahamic God

Jesus - what does this name do to you on the inside.



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This is a real topic, although I know we will get comments of a negative nature. I think its good to explore that...

how does your body respond to these words:

Holy

Jesus

Holy Ghost

Believer

Born Again

Baptism

Baptism of the Fire

Laying of the Hands

exorcising demons
these words do not affect my body at all. they do not affect me in any way.


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Posted 11 October 2012 - 07:50 PM

View PostAbramelin, on 11 October 2012 - 11:19 AM, said:

Scene: Josesph and Mary inside Joseph's carpenter's shop, Joseph frantically trying to hammer an unwilling nail into a plank. Then Joseph's hits his thumb with great force, and yells:

"Jesus Christ !!!"

Mary: "Hey, that would be a nice name for our little boy!"

And that, my friends, is how it all started.



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Posted 11 October 2012 - 08:48 PM

View PostUrisk, on 11 October 2012 - 12:50 PM, said:

Nah. Just fills me with pity.
Aw - You pity me? I can live with that cos I actually am christian :lol:

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 09:51 PM

View PostSpiritWriter, on 02 October 2012 - 01:36 AM, said:

It seems that the name Jesus  stirs up alot of controversy and "feelings",

what are those feelings?

why is it upsetting?

what is your biggest grief with religion

abrahamic God

Jesus - what does this name do to you on the inside.



It honestly depends on the context.... for example, this sort of thing pisses me off:

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But an open and honest discussion about the man, what he did and said and how we can relate to it, engages me and makes me happy.


To me, the difference is that one of these things is shallow and the other has depth.





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how does your body respond to these words:

Holy

Depends on the context, does not normally bother me unless I feel someone is being obnoxious

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Jesus

Same as above

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Holy Ghost

Believer

Born Again

These three make me want to stop the conversation because I am not interested in the road it is going down and I don't appreciate conversations where "I'm right, you're wrong" is the bottom line.  That's not a conversation, it is a sermon.

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Baptism

Baptism of the Fire

I use these quite a lot to refer to totally different things than the context they're normally used in.  I have no reaction to them.

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Laying of the Hands

exorcising demons

UGH.  Don't even get me started.

You should probably add speaking in tongues to that list as well.

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 10:20 PM

View PostArbitran, on 11 October 2012 - 07:50 PM, said:



:lol:@ he is 30, still living at home with his parents, working in his fathers business and his mom thinks he is gods gift, of course he's Jewish !!

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