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Posted 03 October 2012 - 07:49 PM

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Turkey says it has struck targets inside Syria with artillery fire in retaliation for a mortar strike which killed a woman and her children in a Turkish town.

A statement from the Turkish Prime Minister's office said it was in response to a "mortar strike across the border".

Nato ambassadors are to meet later tonight after Turkey protested angrily to the organisation and to the United Nations

The mortar exploded in a residential area of the border town of Akcakale. It was fired from from Tall al Abyad just across the border in Syria.

Abdulhakim Ayhan, the mayor of Akcakale, said: "Five people, including a mother and her three children, were killed. We also have nine wounded."

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 08:16 PM

Syria won't want to pick a fight with Turkey.
I doubt Assad will want to continue with any kind of tit for tat. It would be very unwise to drag Turkey into this any more than they arlready are.

Edited by Atlantia, 03 October 2012 - 08:17 PM.


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Posted 03 October 2012 - 09:08 PM

It was probably rebels trying to incite foreign involvement or western agent provocateur's for the same reason.  Highly doubt Syrian troops would shell Turkey.  OK, not highly, totaly.


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Posted 03 October 2012 - 09:30 PM

View PostOverSword, on 03 October 2012 - 09:08 PM, said:

It was probably rebels trying to incite foreign involvement or western agent provocateur's for the same reason.  Highly doubt Syrian troops would shell Turkey.  OK, not highly, totaly.
Well why would Rebels hit their own kin? Syrian forces have hit Turkish towns recently and rebels don't have mortars not that im aware of. Also Syria did shoot down a Turkish Jet. but it could of been a rouge part of the Syrian army that has not control of


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Posted 03 October 2012 - 09:43 PM

View PostAtlantia, on 03 October 2012 - 08:16 PM, said:

Syria won't want to pick a fight with Turkey.
I doubt Assad will want to continue with any kind of tit for tat. It would be very unwise to drag Turkey into this any more than they arlready are.
Let's see what reaction they will give, if they blame the rebels its an excuse to avoid war which would mean that Syria is weakened by the fighting with the rebels. Or say blame it on rouge Syrian army and sack whoever is in charge of that area. However they have not reacted quickly, if they said it was not them straightly after the shelling then we would have something different. But it seems the Syrian leaders are debating what to say and try and blame it on rebels in which they would probably say anyway. But the more longer the response in the delay, then in will be certain it was them.

This is why Turkey wanted a buffer zone in which sounds reasonable to protect her towns and community's.


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Posted 03 October 2012 - 09:44 PM

I just hope we manage to keep our nose out of this.  If Syria and Turkey throw down, so be it.

I have to say that it would make no sense for Assad to provoke Turkey.  I'd be more inclined to think it was either the rebels trying to draw Turkey in or some trigger happy commander with a boner for Turkey.  There are the rumors Turkey is sheltering rebels...true???  Turkey is one of the top military forces in the region.  I just can't see the advantage for Syria...unless...it is a ploy to pull NATO in and them get them involved in some kind of peace keeping/no fly zone kind of thing...which even that would not be to Assad's advantage...or I don't think anyway.

Even if Iran is backing Syria and has a boner for Turkey because they have a somewhat decent peace agreement with Israel....I don't think Iran wants to take on Turkey either.  Not when you consider they are on the verge of economic collapse...really hard to say.

I just hope we keep our distance.  It's time to lick our wounds and heal up.  Nearly 11 years of constant warfare...it's time to take a break.

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 09:50 PM

Logic could only indicate that it is an attack designed to provoke foriegn involvment.  Who would that benefit?  Either the rebels or the foriegn power that takes nominal control of the area after the syrian government is eliminated.  I call False Flag Event


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Posted 03 October 2012 - 09:51 PM

View PostJeremiah65, on 03 October 2012 - 09:44 PM, said:

I just hope we manage to keep our nose out of this.  If Syria and Turkey throw down, so be it.

I have to say that it would make no sense for Assad to provoke Turkey.  I'd be more inclined to think it was either the rebels trying to draw Turkey in or some trigger happy commander with a boner for Turkey.  There are the rumors Turkey is sheltering rebels...true???  Turkey is one of the top military forces in the region.  I just can't see the advantage for Syria...unless...it is a ploy to pull NATO in and them get them involved in some kind of peace keeping/no fly zone kind of thing...which even that would not be to Assad's advantage...or I don't think anyway.

Even if Iran is backing Syria and has a boner for Turkey because they have a somewhat decent peace agreement with Israel....I don't think Iran wants to take on Turkey either.  Not when you consider they are on the verge of economic collapse...really hard to say.

I just hope we keep our distance.  It's time to lick our wounds and heal up.  Nearly 11 years of constant warfare...it's time to take a break.
Well Iran would blame you anyway saying it was CIA doing it or some stupid reason, i bet you they will blame you in someway.


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Posted 03 October 2012 - 09:53 PM

View PostOverSword, on 03 October 2012 - 09:50 PM, said:

Logic could only indicate that it is an attack designed to provoke foriegn involvment.  Who would that benefit?  Either the rebels or the foriegn power that takes nominal control of the area after the syrian government is eliminated.  I call False Flag Event
I wouldn't say false flag, however cross boarder fire has happened in Lebanon and Jordan and Iraq. However they are much weaker than Turkey due to recent conflicts bar Jordan. If the mortars attacked an Israeli town, then i'm afraid Israel will attack Syria within minutes and Iran would come in and all that


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Posted 03 October 2012 - 09:57 PM

With all the crap flying in these cities I think it could actually have just been a mistake.  It happens.  No benefit for Syria here so if it was deliberate it only makes sense to be the rebels.  If it continues then Erdog will have a decision to make.

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 09:59 PM

View Postand then, on 03 October 2012 - 09:57 PM, said:

With all the crap flying in these cities I think it could actually have just been a mistake.  It happens.  No benefit for Syria here so if it was deliberate it only makes sense to be the rebels.  If it continues then Erdog will have a decision to make.
Problem is though this has happened so many times, why would you repeat a mistake?


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Posted 03 October 2012 - 10:05 PM

I think that attack is false flag.

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 10:06 PM

View Postthe L, on 03 October 2012 - 10:05 PM, said:

I think that attack is false flag.
again why you think that


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Posted 03 October 2012 - 10:06 PM

View PostThe New Richard Nixon, on 03 October 2012 - 09:59 PM, said:

Problem is though this has happened so many times, why would you repeat a mistake?
I said it might be a mistake.  If it is intentional as a way of bringing NATO in then it's bad news if it works.  We do NOT need to be involved in that mess.  No matter who wins the West loses.

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Posted 03 October 2012 - 10:16 PM

View PostThe New Richard Nixon, on 03 October 2012 - 10:06 PM, said:

again why you think that

Because it fits perfectly with USA and UK agenda. Why would Syria tease USA partner? Not just partner of USA but military stronger then Syria. And when you have civil war.

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