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#16    CommunitarianKevin

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 08:00 PM

View PostCorp, on 10 October 2012 - 02:28 PM, said:

"The polls mean nothing, they're not acurate, they're bias, and...what? We're ahead in the polls? WOOT! Election locked in!"

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Yeah, where are th pole bashers now?

View PostMerc14, on 10 October 2012 - 03:09 PM, said:

Has anyone ever noticed that the only people clamoring for an end to the electoral college are liberals?  There is a reason for that. The Electoral college is a necessity because it prevents the major poulation centers, Californioa and NY, from picking the President every 4 years.  The electoral college allows each state to have a say who fills the executive.  Questionmark wants a popular vote decision becasue he wants the liberal states to decide who is president and to hell with flyover country.

So let me get this straight...you don't want a democracy?

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 08:10 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 10 October 2012 - 03:10 PM, said:

Right, now pull your tinfoil hat straight.
What tinfoil hat? I don't think the "liberals" even make a secret of the fact they know how to run your life better than you do. Don't make me google stuff for you!

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 08:13 PM

I thought it was hilarious that the POTUS did so poorly that even Bill Maher, who had donated a million to his campaign, said that he must have spent it on cocaine! :w00t:

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 08:18 PM

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What tinfoil hat? I don't think the "liberals" even make a secret of the fact they know how to run your life better than you do. Don't make me google stuff for you!

You think everyone knows how to run their own life? Why do we have schools? Why do we have prisons? Everyone just knows what they are doing...

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 08:39 PM

View PostHuttonEtAl, on 10 October 2012 - 08:00 PM, said:

Yeah, where are th pole bashers now?



So let me get this straight...you don't want a democracy?
  Absolutely not!  It's just mob rule.  A representative republic is our best chance...lame as it is these days.

  Imagination is the power in the turn of a phrase.

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 08:44 PM

View PostHuttonEtAl, on 10 October 2012 - 08:18 PM, said:

You think everyone knows how to run their own life? Why do we have schools? Why do we have prisons? Everyone just knows what they are doing...
There are exceptions, of course, but how would you like it for someone to tell you what kind of car you can drive and what kind of house you can live in just because you are not one of the "elite"?

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 08:46 PM

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[/b]Absolutely not!  It's just mob rule.  A representative republic is our best chance...lame as it is these days.

I wish Repubs agreed with you...because I do...

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 08:48 PM

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There are exceptions, of course, but how would you like it for someone to tell you what kind of car you can drive and what kind of house you can live in just because you are not one of the "elite"?

Seriously, the main reason Liberals try to "control your lives" is to protect others. What if someone just wanted to hang black people? Who are we to tell them how to live? If they are telling you how to live, there is a good reason. If there is not, liberals object also. No one is telling you what kind of car to drive and what kind of house to live in.

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 09:26 PM

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Seriously, the main reason Liberals try to "control your lives" is to protect others. What if someone just wanted to hang black people? Who are we to tell them how to live? If they are telling you how to live, there is a good reason. If there is not, liberals object also. No one is telling you what kind of car to drive and what kind of house to live in.
True, not yet, but they tell car manufacturers how many miles per gallon their cars HAVE to get, and to list one of many egregious "regulations": Restaurants (where I live anyway) are not allowed for some reason to use fly paper. I guess it's better to have flies swarming around and landing on your food than to have one sticking on that nasty fly paper. And I know from personal experience from working in a landlord's office, if someone asks if the house or apartment they are thinking of renting is in a dangerous section of town, I cannot warn them by law. I can only say it is in an area of "varied ethnicity" or some such b**c**p. I could go on...
eta: They may not be telling me what kind of car to drive (yet) but the EPA has sure made car prices sky rocket. Is the day coming when the average American can't afford to buy a new car? I think more and more people are leasing already anyway.

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 09:40 PM

View PostGummug, on 10 October 2012 - 09:26 PM, said:

True, not yet, but they tell car manufacturers how many miles per gallon their cars HAVE to get, and to list one of many egregious "regulations": Restaurants (where I live anyway) are not allowed for some reason to use fly paper. I guess it's better to have flies swarming around and landing on your food than to have one sticking on that nasty fly paper. And I know from personal experience from working in a landlord's office, if someone asks if the house or apartment they are thinking of renting is in a dangerous section of town, I cannot warn them by law. I can only say it is in an area of "varied ethnicity" or some such b**c**p. I could go on...
eta: They may not be telling me what kind of car to drive (yet) but the EPA has sure made car prices sky rocket. Is the day coming when the average American can't afford to buy a new car? I think more and more people are leasing already anyway.

That is totally different than tell you how to live you lives or telling you what care to buy. I guess I will take the Repub route and say, if you want a nicer car, work harder and make more money. Many brands offer afordable cars. My brand of choice, Nissan, offers a couple good options I was considering. The Versa is only about 12,000 new and gets over 30 mpg. The Juke is under 20K and offers AWD while getting over 30 mpgs. If you want a new BMW start a business and make some money.

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 10:12 PM

View PostHuttonEtAl, on 10 October 2012 - 08:00 PM, said:

Yeah, where are th pole bashers now?



So let me get this straight...you don't want a democracy?
  Of course not, democracy is one of the worst forms of government possible.  Tyranny of the majority.  Think of two wolves and a sheep and they vote for who will be dinner.  Do you think you live in a democracy in the US?  You don't.  Do some research before you lose your mind at what I said.

You asked for Obamamerica, now you are going to get it.  Stand by for suck or as Pelosi says, "Embrace the suck".

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 10:58 PM

View PostMerc14, on 10 October 2012 - 10:12 PM, said:

Of course not, democracy is one of the worst forms of government possible.  Tyranny of the majority.  Think of two wolves and a sheep and they vote for who will be dinner.  Do you think you live in a democracy in the US?  You don't.  Do some research before you lose your mind at what I said.

Dude, I know that. I do research...I know how our government works. BUT Repubs generally do not understand this. When North Carolina banned gay marriage, the supporters of the ban said "The majority voted against it, that is good enough for me." Like you said, that is tyranny of the majority...yet Repubs seem to be okay with the idea because it is the popular vote. They love democracy when it works for them, but not against them.

Let me get this straight though...
This is me losing my mind?

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So let me get this straight...you don't want a democracy?
You have an odd definition of "losing your mind."

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 11:03 PM

View PostHuttonEtAl, on 10 October 2012 - 10:58 PM, said:

Dude, I know that. I do research...I know how our government works. BUT Repubs generally do not understand this. When North Carolina banned gay marriage, the supporters of the ban said "The majority voted against it, that is good enough for me." Like you said, that is tyranny of the majority...yet Repubs seem to be okay with the idea because it is the popular vote. They love democracy when it works for them, but not against them.

Let me get this straight though...
This is me losing my mind?

You have an odd definition of "losing your mind."

Thanks for telling me what repubs don't understand. :rolleyes:  NC has their own set of laws, as determined by their legislature, as does each of the other 49 states (56 if you're Obama).  If they choose to settle questions such as gay marriage via a popular vote then so be it. If as a resident of NC you don't like that procedure you can move to VA or try and change the state constitution.   Personally I think state legislatures should settle that question but I don't live in NC so none of my business.

Edited by Merc14, 10 October 2012 - 11:11 PM.

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 11:07 PM

View PostMerc14, on 10 October 2012 - 11:03 PM, said:


Do you have anything to say or are you just quoting me?

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 11:17 PM

View PostHuttonEtAl, on 10 October 2012 - 11:07 PM, said:

Do you have anything to say or are you just quoting me?

Trying to eat dinner and type, chill out.

You asked for Obamamerica, now you are going to get it.  Stand by for suck or as Pelosi says, "Embrace the suck".




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