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Did Poles breaks Nazi Enigma code?


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#1    Big Bad Voodoo

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 10:07 PM

As part of the effort the upper house of Poland's parliament is to pass a resolution praising Marian Rejewski, Jerzy Rozycki and Henryk Zygalski, the three Polish mathematicians who first broke the codes back in 1932.

Hailed as "heroes" in the resolution, Rejewski, Rozycki and Zygalski worked at the Polish Cipher Bureau in the early 1930s, and in late 1932 came up with three methods for breaking the encrypted codes produced on the Enigma machine, which the Germans thought were unbreakable.

"We have a duty to remind people just what the Polish cryptologists did," said Senator Piotr Zientarski.

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Posted 09 October 2012 - 11:25 PM

The Nazi Germans thinking they were the best, special, was part of their downfall but there was a lot of different countries and people working against them.


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Posted 10 October 2012 - 12:47 PM

The Poles were indeed the first but then the Germans added more Rotor's making it more difficult and this was the version cracked by the British.


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Posted 10 October 2012 - 01:03 PM

Wow! I had no idea there was a film called 'Enigma'. After taking my internet history class, that sounds like a movie I should try to find and watch.

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 01:44 PM

The Poles also would have been close second in building a digital computer would they not have been rudely interrupted by the Germans. Their research was part of the foundation for Turing's work that ultimately cracked the code.

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 02:00 PM

Really. Who cares. It's a bit late for point scoring over which individual did what. Poland still got invaded and suffered horribly and Enigma cracking hastened what would have been inevitable anyway. As Arnold J Rimmer said. "History is written by the winners." Right after the bit about every major battle in history being won by the side with the shortest hair cuts... Move on Poland!


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Posted 10 October 2012 - 02:34 PM

View PostChooky88, on 10 October 2012 - 02:00 PM, said:

Really. Who cares. It's a bit late for point scoring over which individual did what. Poland still got invaded and suffered horribly and Enigma cracking hastened what would have been inevitable anyway. As Arnold J Rimmer said. "History is written by the winners." Right after the bit about every major battle in history being won by the side with the shortest hair cuts... Move on Poland!
I think your being very Harsh my friend,the polish suffered very badly under the Nazi's and and also contributed massively to the British War effort.

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Posted 10 October 2012 - 07:24 PM

I don't know if the Poles broke the Enigma Code but they broke my plumbing... ;)

Edited by Junior Chubb, 10 October 2012 - 07:26 PM.


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Posted 11 October 2012 - 12:56 PM

I notice noone came forth and said it was really them who first split the atom and made the first atom bomb! Looks  like Oppenheimer will have that stigma for all time!

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Posted 11 October 2012 - 01:36 PM

View PostMagiclass, on 11 October 2012 - 12:56 PM, said:

I notice noone came forth and said it was really them who first split the atom and made the first atom bomb! Looks  like Oppenheimer will have that stigma for all time!

Oppenheimer may have been the first to build a nuke, but hardly the first to split any atoms. That would go to Rutherford and Hahn.

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 02:50 PM

Shadow 134. I know they suffered. By the Soviets as well as Nazis. Not my point but of we lived our lives seeking credit for good brave or charitable acts that was unrecognised but deserved we would he very unhappy people.



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Posted 12 October 2012 - 03:31 PM

Turing broke the more complicated version, absolute genius


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Posted 13 October 2012 - 11:37 AM

View Postquestionmark, on 11 October 2012 - 01:36 PM, said:

Oppenheimer may have been the first to build a nuke, but hardly the first to split any atoms. That would go to Rutherford and Hahn.
By the way you forgot the work of De Broglie; HelBronner; Fermi, Marie Curie born Maria Salomea Sklodowski.  Whereas the Poles, they fought both nazis and soviets, the firsts for 6 years the seconds for 63 years.

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 12:06 PM

View PostParacelse, on 13 October 2012 - 11:37 AM, said:

By the way you forgot the work of De Broglie; HelBronner; Fermi, Marie Curie born Maria Salomea Sklodowski.  Whereas the Poles, they fought both nazis and soviets, the firsts for 6 years the seconds for 63 years.

And you forgot Leó Szilárd. :rolleyes:

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 05:29 PM

View Postthe L, on 13 October 2012 - 12:06 PM, said:

And you forgot Leó Szilárd. :rolleyes:

Mea culpa mea culpa mea maxima culpa :(

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