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JRR Tolkien and Christopher Tolkien

talking about their work on mythology and history

 Started by The New Richard Nixon , Oct 10 2012 05:22 PM
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Posted 11 October 2012 - 10:31 PM

That's a lot of heavy reading. You should balance it with something like this;

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 10:32 PM

Anyone who is of the complete opinion that Tolkien should be dimissed because he 'borrowed' probably shouldn't listen to music, read books or watch film. EVERYTHING can be called derivative. Good on Tolkien for admitting it, though, which is more than most people will bother doing. And yes, the man basically defined the genre. That's not to say other authors have not, perhaps, perfected it, but everything out there is somehow touched by his work. Hell, just common speech was affected by him: prior to Tolkien, it was 'dwarfs' and 'elfs', as though common English rules didn't apply to fantasy (/mythical?) creatures. Obviously this is not the case any more.

I appreciate him first as a linguist, then as an author (as you might have been able to tell). I love the Silmarilion, and I don't understand how anyone can't, but then I'm bored to tears over the Hobbit, so that's that. Great little thread!! And nice collection, Nixon. If you can get a hold of his collection of letters, it would be worth a read.


View PostTwin Peaks, on 11 October 2012 - 05:59 PM, said:

So where was Feanor, Melkor, Sauron, The Silmarills, Valinor, Luthien Tinuviel ,etc... before The Silmarillion?

Silmarilli. Tsk tsk, Twins.
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Posted 19 October 2012 - 05:59 AM

View PostHecubus, on 18 October 2012 - 10:32 PM, said:

Silmarilli. Tsk tsk, Twins.

Thank you Hecubus. And good to see you again:)
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 04:38 PM

The Hobbit was the first book I ever read cover to cover and then read it again cover to cover a few weeks later
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Posted 30 November 2012 - 09:17 PM

I like Tolkien and I appreciate his works I couldnt get through the Silmarilion that was like a tranquilizer to me, but I also love R. A. Salvatore, and H.P. Lovecraft, Edger Allen Poe to.
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Posted 01 December 2012 - 03:48 AM

View PostR4z3rsPar4d0x, on 30 November 2012 - 09:17 PM, said:

I like Tolkien and I appreciate his works I couldnt get through the Silmarilion that was like a tranquilizer to me, but I also love R. A. Salvatore, and H.P. Lovecraft, Edger Allen Poe to.

I cant vouch for Salvatore (never read him). But I throw in Robert E Howard and Edgar Rice Burroughs. Great pulp writers.
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Posted 01 December 2012 - 10:39 PM

View PostAmbush Bug, on 01 December 2012 - 03:48 AM, said:

I cant vouch for Salvatore (never read him). But I throw in Robert E Howard and Edgar Rice Burroughs. Great pulp writers.
Salvator has a very clear grasp of the genre. I like his writing a lot.
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Posted 02 December 2012 - 08:45 AM

View PostR4z3rsPar4d0x, on 01 December 2012 - 10:39 PM, said:

Salvator has a very clear grasp of the genre. I like his writing a lot.

I was always under the impression Salvatore wrote teen oriented fantasy potboilers for the Forgotten Realms brand. But then again, I rarely if ever read novels that are adapted from multimedias such as D&D rpg games, movies, television series, etc.
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Posted 02 December 2012 - 01:31 PM

I started reading the Silmarillion in 2000 and while I was making my way through it I learned that my father had died.  Never picked it up again but now I may have to finish it.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 03:19 AM

I guess I'm in the minority but I loved The Simarillion. As a musician, the beginning hooked me with everything being created essentially from music, and I was fascinated reading about the early stages of Middle Earth, such as the origin of the Balrog, Shelob, and Sauron's early days serving the original Dark Lord. I'd love for someone to make a movie or three out of it.
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Posted 04 December 2012 - 03:35 AM

I couldn't begin to tell you how many times I've read The Hobbit and the Lord Of The Rings and the worry in my heart when I first saw that Peter Jackson was making the film adaptaion for the LOTR(please God let him do it justice was a common prayer). Now I have my children reading them. I find it amazing how much passion Tolkien still brings out of people. weather you hate him or love him his impact on literature music and film is undeniable.

Going to see the Hobbit with my boy on the 8th(please God let him do it justice.)
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Posted 07 December 2012 - 11:26 PM

View PostMiskatonicGrad, on 04 December 2012 - 03:35 AM, said:

I couldn't begin to tell you how many times I've read The Hobbit and the Lord Of The Rings and the worry in my heart when I first saw that Peter Jackson was making the film adaptaion for the LOTR(please God let him do it justice was a common prayer). Now I have my children reading them. I find it amazing how much passion Tolkien still brings out of people. weather you hate him or love him his impact on literature music and film is undeniable.

Going to see the Hobbit with my boy on the 8th(please God let him do it justice.)
You werent pleased with LOTR then?
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Posted 08 December 2012 - 01:23 AM

View PostR4z3rsPar4d0x, on 07 December 2012 - 11:26 PM, said:

You werent pleased with LOTR then?

Who could be? Especially if they are fans of the books.
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