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#31    Hasina

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 11:07 AM

My analysis: 'bickerbickerbicker -pause to avoid real issues- bickerbickerbicker.'

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 11:23 AM

View PostCorp, on 12 October 2012 - 03:47 AM, said:

Well as I said I didn't watch much of the debate so the only real interaction with the moderator I saw was Biden complaining that Ryan got 40 seconds and he only for 15 seconds. The mod more or less told him to deal with it. So seems she was rough on both of them. Now we just need to wait for the fact checkers to come out and see which one lied more than the other.

To be honest I was expecting Ryan to take more hits in this thread given his foreign policy comments would be completely hated on this forum. Well except for and then. :P


Oh and just want to throw this in: ENOUGH WITH THE PERSONAL STORIES! Next debate the mod should have the power to slap them whenever they try to use a personal story to answer a question.
Why thank you, Corp... even when I don't care enough about a thread to respond I get mentioned.  I'm feelin' the love... :w00t:  And you are correct - I do agree with Romney/Ryan on foreign policy.

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 11:32 AM

What is it with Obama and Biden and this continuous, ridiculous, smiling during these debates? I remember Obama doing this some 4 years ago during his debates, but he wasn't commander in chief. Who is telling them this strategy? It's got to be a psychological trick that they're being told to use, because it's so clearly fake, and it goes beyond what I would call "political bs."

Perhaps it's directed at the 47% who are believed incapable of keeping up with the conversation, and who will be presumed to only remember this don't-worry, be-happy demeanor when they enter the voting booth.

Duh, let's see, who smiled at me the most .... click!

It gives the impression of .... THERE'S NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT .... when most of U.S. know there's a lot to worry about.

The debate was funny to watch, otherwise. Biden was taking the role of Dad, while Ryan looked like the little boy who needs adoption. He reminded me of Dan Quayle, only smarter.

As much as I found myself liking Ryan, because I have no children, I felt a bit nervous with the thought of him at the helm of the U.S. military. Could he command respect abroad?  I think Hillary would command more respect, including the Muslim arena.

At least with Biden, you know the world would be afraid of him as commander in chief, and we would need that if something happened to Obama.



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Posted 12 October 2012 - 12:03 PM

Plus they said today Bidon cut Ryan off eighty two times, how is that fair?


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Posted 12 October 2012 - 12:05 PM

No point in even reading though all of this...This is the stuff that pisses me off...
Obama sits there and takes it and Repubs are on his ass. Biden tries to take charge and talk out of turn (like Romeny did) and tries to control the base, show some emotion, and Repubs are on his ass. I was laughing too at that little weasle. Repubs are slick talkers, they have to be. You have to beable to lie and BS really well if you want the people you are taking advantage of to vote for you. I still did not hear about the details in Ryan's tax plan. Ryans whole argument was "Obama screwed up, vote for us, don't worry about the details." He said a couple of times "Reagan did it."

Question for Repubs...what WOULD you like to see Obama and Biden do in the debate?

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 12:07 PM

View Postdocyabut2, on 12 October 2012 - 12:03 PM, said:

Plus they said today Bidon cut Ryan off eighty two times, how is that fair?

Did you watch Romney? "No, he had the first word so I get the last one." "No, I get to respond." No you don't you prick, shut up.

Edited by HuttonEtAl, 12 October 2012 - 12:07 PM.

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 12:10 PM

It was Ryan vs Biden and the Moderator;

http://www.breitbart...d-Ryan-82-Times

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RNC Chair Reince Priebus claimed that Vice President Joe Biden interrupted Congressman Paul Ryan "82 times" during the debate

The moderator did nothing about it but that was to be expected;

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And in the end I would have to agree with Charles Krauthammer;

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 12:18 PM

View Postand then, on 12 October 2012 - 11:23 AM, said:

Why thank you, Corp... even when I don't care enough about a thread to respond I get mentioned.  I'm feelin' the love... :w00t:  And you are correct - I do agree with Romney/Ryan on foreign policy.

Well when Ryan was talking about Iran I remember thinking 'man people on UM are not going to like that...wait...ok one person might'  :P

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 12:21 PM

What I like about  the Romey and Ryan ticket they are saying what they can do for the country, not like the dems in only what the government can do for the me me`s,:) They keep saying it was the Bush`s adminstration that got us in this mess, but it was the dems that over rule the congress in those years that got us in this mess and now the burdon that we have to past on to our children, if Obama change don`t change.


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Posted 12 October 2012 - 12:30 PM

View Postdocyabut2, on 12 October 2012 - 12:21 PM, said:

What I like about  the Romey and Ryan ticket they are saying what they can do for the country, not like the dems in only what the government can do for the me me`s, :) They keep saying it was the Bush`s adminstration that got us in this mess, but it was the dems that over rule the congress in those years that got us in this mess and now the burdon that we have to past on to our children, if Obama change don`t change.

Yes, a lot of people like what they say they can do for the country...I could run and say No taxes for anyone! Chocolate and Puppies for all the ladies! It doesn't mean that they are going to do it, but more importantly it doesn't mean it is going to work or that is what is best for the country.

The Dems ruled over Congress in those years?

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 12:31 PM

Martha Raddatz was an awful moderator I argee, for she is democrat, she even invited Obama to her wedding,  go figure who side she was on. Like I said a really unfair debate.  All Biden did was make a raving  ##% of himself,  not like Ryan who tried to talk sense.


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Posted 12 October 2012 - 12:35 PM

View PostHuttonEtAl, on 12 October 2012 - 12:05 PM, said:

No point in even reading though all of this...This is the stuff that pisses me off...
Obama sits there and takes it and Repubs are on his ass. Biden tries to take charge and talk out of turn (like Romeny did) and tries to control the base, show some emotion, and Repubs are on his ass. I was laughing too at that little weasle. Repubs are slick talkers, they have to be. You have to beable to lie and BS really well if you want the people you are taking advantage of to vote for you. I still did not hear about the details in Ryan's tax plan. Ryans whole argument was "Obama screwed up, vote for us, don't worry about the details." He said a couple of times "Reagan did it."

Question for Repubs...what WOULD you like to see Obama and Biden do in the debate?

There is a large difference between interjecting and interrupting. Biden did the latter, and in a very rude and unprofessional manner at that. Find me one clip that shows Romney acting anywhere near as ridiculous as the VP did last night. Please, just one.

As for the details, have you read or listened to any of them? The five-point plan? What issue do you want more details on? You're probably still sold on this admin's "spend the same dollar twice" scheme that they've been running for four years now.

I was impressed with how well Ryan held his composure. Not only did he have to deal with "Laughin' Joe", but also the heavily biased moderator.


View PostHuttonEtAl, on 12 October 2012 - 12:07 PM, said:

Did you watch Romney? "No, he had the first word so I get the last one." "No, I get to respond." No you don't you prick, shut up.

You actually made me audibly laugh here. Another classy post that makes no sense.

The first remark was clearly spoken in jest by Romney. The second was a request for a response, which he has the right to do, especially when he is being cut off by the moderator.

Edited by Legaia, 12 October 2012 - 12:39 PM.


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Posted 12 October 2012 - 12:40 PM

View PostLegaia, on 12 October 2012 - 12:35 PM, said:

The first remark was clearly spoken in jest by Romney. The second was a request for a response, which he has the right to do, especially when he is being cut off by the moderator.

Um that is kind of the job of the moderator...
But clearly you are okay with that behavior...

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 12:42 PM

View Postdocyabut2, on 12 October 2012 - 12:31 PM, said:

Martha Raddatz was an awful moderator I argee, for she is democrat, she even invited Obama to her wedding,  go figure who side she was on. Like I said a really unfair debate.  All Biden did was make a raving  ##% of himself,  not like Ryan who tried to talk sense.

No, her husband invited Obama to the wedding in 91 because they went to school together. They were divorced in 97. Obama is an aquatiance of her ex-husband...

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 12:43 PM

View PostHuttonEtAl, on 12 October 2012 - 12:40 PM, said:

Um that is kind of the job of the moderator...
But clearly you are okay with that behavior...


If I was being cut off by a moderator on this site, and I asked if I could respond to someone, how in the hell would I be in the wrong?





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