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Identifying how people steal your energy

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#106    Professor T

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:33 PM

View PostEtu Malku, on 20 November 2012 - 08:53 PM, said:

Discussing this stuff is interesting to me, debating with skeptics really isn't though.
This interests me as well.

But you are not willing to discuss it and play the Aloof control drama to get out of it.

As you are personally unable to discuss Processes or even give examples of hinderences or blocks in the process, tips, techiques, I don't see you making any contributions to the discussion.


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Posted 20 November 2012 - 09:49 PM

I came in at the 33rd post and presented a very real aspect of energy manipulation, the examples you listed are what many in the vampire community call Empaths, and they are emotional drainers, whiny, needy, ego driven people. It has very little to do with actual prana manipulation, whereas Predatory Spiritualism is exactly about prana manipulation.

For some reason everyone became irate that I should mention this and jumped to all kinds of incorrect assumptions and took to personally attcking me and my practice (which is shared by many throughout the world).

Just because I am unwilling to divulge how someone can prevent this from happening does by no means imply I am discussing this.

So, aside from that information, what would you like to know?

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 11:08 PM

View PostEtu Malku, on 20 November 2012 - 02:01 PM, said:

Energy has already been measured and explained/defined. Yahweh on the other hand has never been measured.

But I see what you are getting at and I'll attempt to explain . . .

Archetypes such as gods, angels, demons, & devils are extremely powerful Thoughtforms, they are beyond egregores and have become what Chaotes refer to as Godforms.
They are memes of the highest order and although created and developed by Man, they are very independent and contain the energies of everyone that continue to empower them.
This makes these types of archetypes very desirable for the ritualist.
It also helps define the concept behind Predatory Spiritualism.

Would you say this practice is something like what is described in the book of revelations? Chapter 13 where it says,


And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak

key word being : "image"  you know where it says the beast that was and is not, but yet is (chpter 17)...an illusion brought to life but none the less still a man made illusion...interesting how the beast and the image are man made...


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Posted 20 November 2012 - 11:24 PM

With Respect,

Just because one does not believe in something, does not mean it will not happen anyway, one will just be unaware of it happening and this is a good thing - closed minds make easy meals.

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 11:31 PM

View PostEtu Malku, on 20 November 2012 - 09:49 PM, said:

I came in at the 33rd post and presented a very real aspect of energy manipulation, the examples you listed are what many in the vampire community call Empaths, and they are emotional drainers, whiny, needy, ego driven people. It has very little to do with actual prana manipulation, whereas Predatory Spiritualism is exactly about prana manipulation.

For some reason everyone became irate that I should mention this and jumped to all kinds of incorrect assumptions and took to personally attcking me and my practice (which is shared by many throughout the world).

Just because I am unwilling to divulge how someone can prevent this from happening does by no means imply I am discussing this.

So, aside from that information, what would you like to know?

Many do not believe that others can steal energy, or at the very least deny that truth to the point of fervor by attacking those that do understand that it can occur.. Many People like living in ignorance, and will defend that by personal attacks..

So, aside from the information you are unwilling to devulge..........

How can someone identify that someone else in their presence is taking their energy?


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Posted 20 November 2012 - 11:31 PM

Greetings,

The only way to block the taking of energy, is to be aware of the energy and to actively block the taking using a shield, an energy contruct that places a meta-physical wall between you and the other person.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 12:46 AM

View PostProfessor T, on 20 November 2012 - 11:31 PM, said:

Many do not believe that others can steal energy, or at the very least deny that truth to the point of fervor by attacking those that do understand that it can occur.. Many People like living in ignorance, and will defend that by personal attacks..

So, aside from the information you are unwilling to devulge..........

How can someone identify that someone else in their presence is taking their energy?
When attuned to your subtle body, you can then feel the prana slipping away, the insertion of tendrils, and depending on the amount removed, weak and tired.

Edited by Etu Malku, 21 November 2012 - 12:47 AM.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 01:07 AM

View PostEtu Malku, on 21 November 2012 - 12:46 AM, said:

When attuned to your subtle body, you can then feel the prana slipping away, the insertion of tendrils, and depending on the amount removed, weak and tired.

I see. So basically if one is not paying attention or tuned in at the time it goes and they are none the wiser..
That's very interesting..
Is there a time limit on when performing the ritual? What I mean is, do you need to perform the ritual first, then go to town and take some energy, or is it the other way around..


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Posted 21 November 2012 - 01:31 AM

View PostProfessor T, on 21 November 2012 - 01:07 AM, said:

I see. So basically if one is not paying attention or tuned in at the time it goes and they are none the wiser..
That's very interesting..
Is there a time limit on when performing the ritual? What I mean is, do you need to perform the ritual first, then go to town and take some energy, or is it the other way around..
I will go back and again use Lilith as a reference.
The archetype Lilith would be brought forth from your unconsciousness into your consciousness, Her energy would be latched onto and embraced, stored and used later in the ritual for whatever intent it is for.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 01:50 AM

View PostEtu Malku, on 21 November 2012 - 01:31 AM, said:

I will go back and again use Lilith as a reference.
The archetype Lilith would be brought forth from your unconsciousness into your consciousness, Her energy would be latched onto and embraced, stored and used later in the ritual for whatever intent it is for.

Ok, I don't think I entirely get this, so I'll reword it to what I think you mean..

So if I was doing this, I would bring forth Lilith, from my Unconsciousness into my Consciousness. Then I would take her Energy from a passerby, embrace it, store it, then wonder home and use that energy in ritual... Is that right?

Edited, spelling..

Edited by Professor T, 21 November 2012 - 01:51 AM.


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Posted 21 November 2012 - 02:17 AM

View PostProfessor T, on 21 November 2012 - 01:50 AM, said:

Ok, I don't think I entirely get this, so I'll reword it to what I think you mean..

So if I was doing this, I would bring forth Lilith, from my Unconsciousness into my Consciousness. Then I would take her Energy from a passerby, embrace it, store it, then wonder home and use that energy in ritual... Is that right?

Edited, spelling..
Passerby? Where did you get that from? You would take the energy from the archetype, which is the pure essence (Ka)

You need forget about the vampire preying on a victim thing ;)

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 02:39 AM

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You would take the energy from the archetype, which is the pure essence (Ka)

An archetype is simply a universal symbol..it is not real nor a thing that can be exploited so there is nothing to take energy from.


Am I the only one who sees that "Etu" feels, no, he "knows" he is absolutely right and the rest of us are plain wrong?
At this point it seems like a waste of energy debating, he has already alluded to the idea that since some of us do not agree that we are either A) Wrong   B ) Stupid C) Not evolved/not in control over our "subtle bodies" or whatever or D) all of the above

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 02:41 AM

View PostRyu, on 21 November 2012 - 02:39 AM, said:

An archetype is simply a universal symbol..it is not real nor a thing that can be exploited so there is nothing to take energy from.


Am I the only one who sees that "Etu" feels, no, he "knows" he is absolutely right and the rest of us are plain wrong?
At this point it seems like a waste of energy debating, he has already alluded to the idea that since some of us do not agree that we are either A) Wrong   B ) Stupid C) Not evolved/not in control over our "subtle bodies" or whatever or D) all of the above
yay!! someone with open eyes

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 02:50 AM

View PostEtu Malku, on 21 November 2012 - 02:17 AM, said:

Passerby? Where did you get that from? You would take the energy from the archetype, which is the pure essence (Ka)

You need forget about the vampire preying on a victim thing ;)

Ok..
So if I was doing this, I would bring forth Lilith, from my Unconsciousness into my Consciousness. Then I would take her Energy, embrace it, store it, then wonder home and use that energy in ritual...

There is no Energy thieft involved then, because Lilith was brought forth from within, and there are no other parties other than yourself contributing to the Energy pool..  Or am I missing a point.

Edited to add, three posts in the same ten minutes making the same point.. Perhaps I'm not missing a point afterall.

Edited by Professor T, 21 November 2012 - 02:53 AM.


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Posted 21 November 2012 - 03:00 AM

View PostJGirl, on 21 November 2012 - 02:41 AM, said:

yay!! someone with open eyes

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