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[White Unicorn]

This is my first topic post so I hope I have it right in forum. This is a very old family heirloom and I want to find out what it really is.  Any help is appreciated

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[Mistery136]

I don't know what it is, but it is lovely !

[questionmark]

The top part is from the Emmerton Court lodge, the center is from the York lodge, the bottom could be from the Masonic Knights order. To trace the origin you might have to check which lodge has contacts into all three groups. Could also be that somebody created his own medal.

[cladking]

Germanic 19th century?  State of Hanover?

I'm not good at these but this is probably a medal and perhaps a badge but not a medallion.

[Mr. Smith]

Looks Masonic with the compass-ruler. I also thought Knights of Columbus because of the triangle/skull and red cross but the larger cross on the bottom is not positioned right, there's are angled.

Definitely a fraternal order. Might also be an officer's pin or an award within the organization.

Edited by Mr. Smith, 13 October 2012 - 08:24 PM.

[Simbi Laveau]

It's Masonic ,but depending upon the specific group it came from ,their are sometimes differences in designs.
I love the Masonic women's rings ,and some are very run of the mill,and some are specially made for a specific person,so they have different settings ,stones and designs ,depending .
So just assume its Masonic in origin ,and a male member wore it ,more than likely .

[Hilander]

I don't know what it is but its really nice.

[White Unicorn]

Thanks everyone.  I have a very diverse family history.  This is from my father's side which didn't make sense at all to me. France Huguenots to Germany England and Holland before coming to states. He had Kaballah ancesters on grandmother's side so I could not link it to Knights of Columbus although I saw some simularity to that. A lot of inter religious marriages for centuries so there may have been a Catholic on that  side I don't know about!  My mothers side had York and Scottish Rite and Templars so I could identify that side of the family items.  This one is very mysterious to me.  It doesn't fit with anyone and great great grandad died and nobody knew what it was except it was old when he got it.  It's like a polished lead or pewtar  and the clasp looks very medival or homemade.  There were metal makers and blacksniths on this side of family dating back to the 15th century.

[Old Man Waffles]

spoooky... the skull is creepy

[White Unicorn]

Old Man Waffles, on 13 October 2012 - 08:48 PM, said:

spoooky... the skull is creepy

That's what my dad and I thought so it was just stashed in a jewelry box for years as that weird whatever badge or medal!
It might have been emblem of crusades because of the horse and cross?   I think might represent John the Baptist? Thought I'd give it shot and post it to get clues.

[White Unicorn]

questionmark, on 13 October 2012 - 08:10 PM, said:

The top part is from the Emmerton Court lodge, the center is from the York lodge, the bottom could be from the Masonic Knights order. To trace the origin you might have to check which lodge has contacts into all three groups. Could also be that somebody created his own medal.

That may be the biggest clue for me to look into.  I had one great great grandfather on my dad's side that was a Freemason who served under George Washington in the revolution. He's the first  grandfather on that side that I know was a Mason. What Rite was Washington?

[Eldorado]

http://www.bing.com/...ols&FORM=IQFRDR

I like it.  That slanted cross spooks me though.

Edited by Eldorado, 13 October 2012 - 09:32 PM.

[Oniomancer]

White Unicorn, on 13 October 2012 - 09:03 PM, said:

That's what my dad and I thought so it was just stashed in a jewelry box for years as that weird whatever badge or medal!
It might have been emblem of crusades because of the horse and cross?   I think might represent John the Baptist? Thought I'd give it shot and post it to get clues.

Not a horse. It's the lamb of god.

http://en.wikipedia....iki/Lamb_of_God

http://www.google.co...c.1.7wDeWZMlXno

[White Unicorn]

Eldorado, on 13 October 2012 - 09:24 PM, said:

http://www.bing.com/...ols&FORM=IQFRDR

I like it.  That slanted cross spooks me though.

I couldn't link to your site, why do you think a slanted cross is creepy, any reason in particular?

[White Unicorn]

Oniomancer, on 13 October 2012 - 09:43 PM, said:

Not a horse. It's the lamb of god.

http://en.wikipedia....iki/Lamb_of_God

http://www.google.co...c.1.7wDeWZMlXno

I was thinking horse  since a lot of medival coins have horses looking like this for some reason, but I believe you are correct because of the slanted cross!