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#31    zaqwsx

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 03:47 AM

View Postsynchronomy, on 15 October 2012 - 01:58 PM, said:

There seems no doubt that there are things going on in the World which you won't hear about on CNN or any mainstream media.
The fact that you have accepted that does not change your reality.  It doesn't "shatter" the elements which are fundamental to your existance.  It's important you live your life to your full potential and don't get "freaked out" because you've been prompted to do some deep thinking.
From the sounds of it ( I could be wrong, but) you have read numerous books and come to some conclusion.
The most important thing to realize is that just because someone writes a book, it does not mean the content is true.
This is especially true of ufology.
I can assure you, there is far more nonsense published than there is fact.
Many, many authors present their own speculative conjecture as if it is cold, hard fact.  Many are so good at it that they could convince many people that the Earth is hollow (bet you read that one).
No one has all the answers.
Many self-professed experts are people with an over-active imagination with access to Google and Youtube.

It's important that you seek proof for any claims you hear about.  Maintaining an open mind does not mean believe everything you read.
Much as we stereotype people as either believers or skeptics...the healthiest approach to view the subject from a scientific perspective and seek confirmation for everything.
Personally I'm a believer with a healthy buffer of skepticism.
There's many authors and documentary producers out there who are just doing it to make money.

thank you for your reply and all those who showed interest on the matter.
apparently, my questions presented have been answered last night.
i always talk about the concept of freewill yet i have completely forgotten it and didn't live it.
pushing my opinions and beliefs to others would only portray nothing more than my own selfishness. someone said, "the understanding comes within."
anyways, i thank you synchronomy and to all others who did their best to provide the answers. i can't type any further my sudden ideas because they're too far from the topic i created.
anyone can disregard this thread now because the questions presented are all answered.
i humbly thank you with my wholeness. and again,
have a nice day.

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 06:56 AM

View Postzoser, on 15 October 2012 - 06:48 PM, said:

I'm a believer!  Never seen one.  I did photograph something strange over Channel Islands the other day though.

may we see?

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 03:26 PM

I think the whole point of believing comes from within.I'm 59 yrs of age and theres a lot of things I thought I've believed in, in my lifetime, that have turned out to be mistaken on my part.There have always been people with their own agenda who blatantly lie, but its the ones who are canny(Scottish word for shrewd) enough to lie a little bit or embellish the true facts, just to make themselves seem interesting.I've questioned a lot of subjects in my life, but as regards UFO's 30 years ago I was walking home from a party with a bunch of guys both old and young, when I physically saw a UFO from no more than 100 yards, at rooftop level.The friend who was walking beside me(we were last in the group a little bit behind the rest) said(as you would!) ...What the **** was that!!? I said did you see it too, and from that moment on it has never been mentioned for fear of ridicule ...Scottish people can be pretty sarcastic :-).The point I'm trying to make is, in your lifetime you will come across things that you cant explan or maybe you wont want to face up to because it appears to be outside the sphere of our intelligence and lives, but even before the internet posted all the fake and crap **** that plagues genuine believers I did and do believe.It is absurd for anyne to think that in the vastness of space that we are alone. Of course, bu OUR knowledge we understand tht in OUR technology beings from other galaxies would not be able to travel through to us as it is impossibly far away.However that is OUR way of thinking, and OUR knowledge at this time may not be the same as other inhabitants who have overcome the problems with travel through "space".I am still undecided on the subject of perhaps it is another dimension or time slip.I dont profess to be intelligent enough to understand everything that happens in this world, never mind other worlds, but I know, know for a fact what I saw that night to be true. Have a great day all!

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 03:56 PM

View Postdannyboy52, on 18 October 2012 - 03:26 PM, said:

I think the whole point of believing comes from within.I'm 59 yrs of age and theres a lot of things I thought I've believed in, in my lifetime, that have turned out to be mistaken on my part.There have always been people with their own agenda who blatantly lie, but its the ones who are canny(Scottish word for shrewd) enough to lie a little bit or embellish the true facts, just to make themselves seem interesting.I've questioned a lot of subjects in my life, but as regards UFO's 30 years ago I was walking home from a party with a bunch of guys both old and young, when I physically saw a UFO from no more than 100 yards, at rooftop level.The friend who was walking beside me(we were last in the group a little bit behind the rest) said(as you would!) ...What the **** was that!!? I said did you see it too, and from that moment on it has never been mentioned for fear of ridicule ...Scottish people can be pretty sarcastic :-).The point I'm trying to make is, in your lifetime you will come across things that you cant explan or maybe you wont want to face up to because it appears to be outside the sphere of our intelligence and lives, but even before the internet posted all the fake and crap **** that plagues genuine believers I did and do believe.It is absurd for anyne to think that in the vastness of space that we are alone. Of course, bu OUR knowledge we understand tht in OUR technology beings from other galaxies would not be able to travel through to us as it is impossibly far away.However that is OUR way of thinking, and OUR knowledge at this time may not be the same as other inhabitants who have overcome the problems with travel through "space".I am still undecided on the subject of perhaps it is another dimension or time slip.I dont profess to be intelligent enough to understand everything that happens in this world, never mind other worlds, but I know, know for a fact what I saw that night to be true. Have a great day all!
Hello from Canada.
I'm a Scotsman originally from Largs and the Northeast.

I share your thoughts on facts "known" and their evolution through life.  I'm 49 now and my own experiences regarding UFO's have led me to conclude there is some form of visitation taking place.  The research I have done, people I have met, and two sightings (in recent years) personally have led me to conclude the phenomenon is more "fact" than a "belief".   Also had a bizarre experience when I was young relating to a standing stone and ancient "heap of boulders" near Dufftown.
No one will convince me there's not something at hand.  Can I prove it to anyone else?  Not a chance in hell,  it's just the result of a lifetime of experiences both objective and subjective.

All the Best!
At the heart of science is an essential balance between two seemingly contradictory attitudes--an openness to new ideas, no matter how bizarre or counterintuitive they may be, and the most ruthless skeptical scrutiny of all ideas, old and new.
This is how deep truths are winnowed from deep nonsense. -- Carl Sagan




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