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#1    LucidElement

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 08:23 AM

Alright, so Im a republican, and I am glad Romney is now up 7 points. We know have a some U.S Warships parked outside of Iran (Facing) as well as the DHS just ordered 160 Billion rounds of ammo recentley and the Social Security Administration ordered just shy of 200k this month and back in march ordered 450 million. Wouldn't it be something if Obama just launches something to keep himself in office and declare himself El Presidente and scratches the voting arrangement. Most people are buying this ammo in case he gets re-elected and more importantly to prepare for a civil unrest. Scary stuff. Romney has been crushing him in the Debates and all Obama wants is 4 more years to progress. Well like Eastwood said "Politicians work for us, and if their not doing the job correctly, lets let someone else in"

I just truly hope this election goes smoothly without any bumps in the road prior to it. We do not even have a Democrat in the office. To much has been done to define the term socialist. He wants total government control in peoples lives. The scariest part is ive seen so many videos of analysts asking people at the Democratic convention, would you support obama if he does this?? And they say things like "well, i dont know what that is but if Obama supports it then sure".... And that folks is why we are where we are in the country, people dont understand the history of this country or the economics.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 08:41 AM

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If America ever does wonder why the rest of the world sometimes looks at it slightly askance, the post above provides all the answers one might seek. i wonder where this hysterical paranoia about Obama came from? It truly is a most bemusing phenomenon.
Perhaps the most bemusing thing of all is that there still seem to be people who cling with diehard allegiance to their particular party. They really cannot seem to see that there is no difference whatsoever between any of them, because in the end all the important factors are always out of their control.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 08:43 AM

A close election will be our undoing.  He will fight in court until he is thwarted by the Supremes or is given another term.  If he is thwarted he literally could make statements that would cause civil unrest.  Hopefully he isn't that evil but I wouldn't bet on it.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 08:49 AM

View Post747400, on 19 October 2012 - 08:41 AM, said:

If America ever does wonder why the rest of the world sometimes looks at it slightly askance, the post above provides all the answers one might seek. i wonder where this hysterical paranoia about Obama came from? It truly is a most bemusing phenomenon.
Perhaps the most bemusing thing of all is that there still seem to be people who cling with diehard allegiance to their particular party. They really cannot seem to see that there is no difference whatsoever between any of them, because in the end all the important factors are always out of their control.

Not true, there were some democrats I did not have a problem with. But a socilast mindset BIGGG PROBLEM with. And there is major major differences between Republicans and Democrats.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 08:51 AM

View Postand then, on 19 October 2012 - 08:43 AM, said:

A close election will be our undoing.  He will fight in court until he is thwarted by the Supremes or is given another term.  If he is thwarted he literally could make statements that would cause civil unrest.  Hopefully he isn't that evil but I wouldn't bet on it.

Hey And Then.. If he gets over run by Romney, in terms of voted out of office... What would he fight in court about, he would have lost all power isnt that correct??

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 08:53 AM

View Post747400, on 19 October 2012 - 08:41 AM, said:

If America ever does wonder why the rest of the world sometimes looks at it slightly askance, the post above provides all the answers one might seek. i wonder where this hysterical paranoia about Obama came from? It truly is a most bemusing phenomenon.
Perhaps the most bemusing thing of all is that there still seem to be people who cling with diehard allegiance to their particular party. They really cannot seem to see that there is no difference whatsoever between any of them, because in the end all the important factors are always out of their control.
I think one of our strengths is that we don't much care how askance the world views us.  And that isn't a taunt or a nod to our improper arrogance at times - it's just a byproduct of our hardheaded attitude about freedom.  As to the situation with Obama - I hate the man's attitude and his arrogance (ironic right?) in the way he has discharged his office over these past 4 years.  He had an opportunity at the outset to make real and lasting changes in the culture of Washington.  He had enormous political capital and he squandered that power by being petty and forcing his agenda through rather than working in concert and with a bipartisan effort.  Consider that he had TOTAL CONTROL for the first 24 months.  The only thing he accomplished was to put in place a (much needed in theory) health system that the great majority did not trust or accept.  He then went on to sign multiple executive orders to bypass the congressional rules and even made a few very controversial recess appointments that angered the Right.  IOW he refused to work and play well with others.  And if Romney is elected he may well have to attempt to "govern" in the same way since the level of anger is so high in Obama's wake that no one wants to compromise.  America is at the brink of some big changes and it isn't going to be amusing if they all turn out to be negative.  All countries fail eventually but if they cast a worldwide shadow then all the world shares awhile in the misery of the transition.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 08:56 AM

View PostLucidElement, on 19 October 2012 - 08:51 AM, said:

Hey And Then.. If he gets over run by Romney, in terms of voted out of office... What would he fight in court about, he would have lost all power isnt that correct??
I'm saying that if the electoral count is very close as it was in 2000 and he decides to challenge the ballot in several States it could go on for months until it is sent to the Supreme Court - just like in 2000.  And if it goes that far and he loses then he can actually cause civil unrest by giving a speech if he wanted to.

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 09:00 AM

So do you think its possible that he sent these warships to Iran, not just to scare them but to maybe stir something up in order to keep himself in office that much longer?? I guess I was never really nervous until, actually, a few days ago, that he may (if he goes) he may not go quietly?

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 09:02 AM

View PostLucidElement, on 19 October 2012 - 09:00 AM, said:

So do you think its possible that he sent these warships to Iran, not just to scare them but to maybe stir something up in order to keep himself in office that much longer?? I guess I was never really nervous until, actually, a few days ago, that he may (if he goes) he may not go quietly?
That's right, like Bush was going to do, wasn't he. he was going to provoke wars in order to- oh, wait. :unsure2:

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Posted 19 October 2012 - 09:14 AM

View Post747400, on 19 October 2012 - 09:02 AM, said:

That's right, like Bush was going to do, wasn't he. he was going to provoke wars in order to- oh, wait. :unsure2:

Bush did not provoke a war before his time was up on office. If that were the case he would have stayed on board. This isn't about Bush. get back to the matter at hand. The first post. We have DHS, SSA, ordering so much ammo, as well as destroyers facing Iran.. makes you think, but hope nothing happens. Is obama that crazy to do something like that to keep himself in office just that much longer. It's chaotic thinking about it. The white house has never faced ANYTHING like this before. No president has put so much threat into this country in a vast 4 years as one man has. Since 1776, we had pretty much ONE big terrorist attack 9/11, (Civil War, ok) But foreign-affairs. What Im saying is that USA has sailed along pretty smoothly, all things considered until these last four years of this man going against the constitution, waiving it by his own hand. Having government involved in everyone affairs. It's not the American way, and it sure as hell is not a Democratic or Republican way. I like what "AND THEN:" said on his second post.

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 12:55 AM

If it happens,it WON'T MATTER WHO IS IN OFFICE .It never has ,and it never will . Puppetry of the penis,of the highest order .

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 01:26 PM

View PostLucidElement, on 19 October 2012 - 09:00 AM, said:

So do you think its possible that he sent these warships to Iran, not just to scare them but to maybe stir something up in order to keep himself in office that much longer?? I guess I was never really nervous until, actually, a few days ago, that he may (if he goes) he may not go quietly?

Hey Lucid.

If you dont mind me asking, what exactly do you think is the difference between 0bama and Romney?

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 02:22 PM

View Post747400, on 19 October 2012 - 08:41 AM, said:

i wonder where this hysterical paranoia about Obama came from?

Hindsight is irrelevant. If there's fear in the air then it's already too late.

View Post747400, on 19 October 2012 - 08:41 AM, said:

because in the end all the important factors are always out of their control.

I've never heard that argument so much as I have in the last four years. In fact, I don't recall hearing that ever during the beginning if the century. Hmm, anyhow given that that's true the importance of the role of POTUS falls on leadership. Good leaders unite and motivate. Bad leaders divide and separate and incite mob mentality. The entire ows movement was proof of that and they followed the model of bad leadership and look at what a failure that was. Didn't they want a workplace without management? Yes, they did. An environment run by the people with no leadership. Yea right, that can't work. It's just impossible. Well on Capitol Hill, evidence of bad leadership is abound. Congress is wholly divided and so are we. A better leader could possibly get people to shake hands once in a while. I know it's not easy but that's how things work at its basest form. Romney may well be just as ineffective but he does at least have a history of proven leadership skills under his belt.


View Postand then, on 19 October 2012 - 08:43 AM, said:

A close election will be our undoing.  He will fight in court until he is thwarted by the Supremes or is given another term.  If he is thwarted he literally could make statements that would cause civil unrest.  Hopefully he isn't that evil but I wouldn't bet on it.

I agree he could easily incite riots with 10 seconds of mic time. Wether he would or not remains to be seen.

View PostLucidElement, on 19 October 2012 - 09:14 AM, said:

This isn't about Bush. get back to the matter at hand.

Ha, that's funny. You can't be that naive. During the Romney Obama second debate, did you watch? There was a five minute intermission sideshow where Romney had to debate Bush!

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 04:40 PM

So I need to ask has Obama personally killed the pets of some members here? Because some of the claims made seem very personal and completely irrational.

War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things: the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth a war, is much worse...A man who has nothing which he is willing to fight for, nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 04:48 PM

View PostCorp, on 21 October 2012 - 04:40 PM, said:

So I need to ask has Obama personally killed the pets of some members here? Because some of the claims made seem very personal and completely irrational.
Hmm...now that you mention it I did have a dog die tragically during this administration. I'll add it to my nObama list!

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