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Who won the 3rd Presidential debate

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Who won the 3rd Presidential debate

  1. President Obama won (15 votes [48.39%])

    Percentage of vote: 48.39%

  2. Mitt Romney won (9 votes [29.03%])

    Percentage of vote: 29.03%

  3. Neither candidate won, it was a tie (7 votes [22.58%])

    Percentage of vote: 22.58%

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#16    Raptor Witness

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 09:15 PM

View Postdocyabut2, on 23 October 2012 - 12:26 PM, said:

Great debate at least it was fair:) it seems there were not much differences on Obama or Rommy views on foreign affairs, except  Rommey says Obama`s to weak and Obama says Rommy `s to forceful:) in any case  Rommy acted more Pesidentual.
I agree that it was more fair.

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Posted 23 October 2012 - 10:41 PM

Leave the Democrats and Republicans in the past. Vote Gary Johnson! The we just have to clean out the Senate and Congress.


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Posted 24 October 2012 - 02:04 AM

Ok found a transcript on the Fox website so let's go through and see what was said.
http://www.foxnews.c...ynn-university/


Romney says we can't kill our way out of the Middle East. Good start. Nothing on what he'd do instead though. Maybe ran out of time?

Hmm...seems the whole Libya campaign cost less than two weeks in Iraq. Well there's a bargain. :P

Ah Romney saying how we're going to deal with terrorist...by killing them. What? Romney didn't you just say we can't kill our way out of this mess? Ok he doesn't want another occupation, that's good. But he always wants to go after terrorist leadership? That might be difficult. Do like the idea of focused foreign aid though. Education, gender equality, and better laws are good to. Though again going to be hard to put into place.

*blinks* I think Obama started talking and Fox forgot to note that. Or Romney thinks he's currently the president.

Obama first to mention Israel.

Obama says the US should work through regional allies to solve the Syrian issues and not get directly involved. Seems like a good idea given the recent history America has had with the Middle East.

"Syria is Iran's route to the sea." Umm...Romney you might want to look at a map.

Romney doesn't want to get militarily involved in Syria. Did he just say Obama is doing the right thing. He doesn't want certain rebels to get weapons but also wants to give some rebels weapons? Huh? In all seems Romney just agreed with Obama on the question of Syria. Yep and Obama points this out.

Obama notes that efforts in nation building could have been better spent at home. Touch off topic, though a valid point.

Romney agrees with Obama in Egypt. So is this debate just going the two of them agreeing with each other?

"And the mantle of leadership for the -- promoting the principles of peace has fallen to America. We didn't ask for it."  So is Romney saying the US had a duty to be the world's police?

And Romney goes off about the economy for a bit and then complains about military cuts. Say you know what might help the economy? CUTTING YOUR MILITARY SPENDING!

No where in the world is America's influence greater than four years ago? Didn't Obama just increase American involvement in Asia? Plus I think Europe likes the US better.

"People tend to vote for peace. They don't vote for war." So the GOP is screwed? :P

And Romney talking about the economy again. And there's tension between Israel and the US?

And Obama talking about the economy and education. Umm...guys this is about foreign policy.

Damn it mod slap the both of them down and get back on topic. Ah finally...oh wait no Romney wants to talk about education.

"Where are you going to get the money for your military spending?"  "Look at my website."  Or maybe you could just tell everyone Romney.

So America can't afford better health care but more warship? Yep plenty of money for them!

Solid point for Obama. The US spends more on its military than the next ten nations combined, and several of those are close allies. More military spending is not needed.

Doing a budget for the Olympics is different than running a country. Past experience is good, but details are better.

Romney the reason why the navy and air force is smaller is due to technological advances and the fact that equipment costs a hell of a lot more these days.

Horses and bayonet comment. Romney gets burned for his lack of understanding historical context.

"And, you know, we visited the website quite a bit and it still doesn't work." Dang Romney gets roasted in the span of a few minutes.

Israel is America's greatest ally in the region? Didn't they steal American tech or something a while back. Anyway Obama is likely looking to steal Romney's talking points.

Obama and Romney are agreeing on Iran...come on Romney show that hardline. Ah there we go genocide reference...though not sure Iran has taken part in any genocide actions. The 'wiped off the map' point gets brought up a lot (Obama raised in here) but there are claims of mistranslations and what this really means. So at the end of it the only different between the two of them is that Romney will be meaner to Iran in diplomatic circles. Well...better than what I thought it would be. Though isolating Iran is going to take some doing since I'm sure people hate Israel more than they do Iran. Might be seen as the US being a bully.

Romney is now saying Obama is being too soft on Iran...but you just said the US was doing a good job of dealing with Iran.

Reference to the apology tour. CNN fact checked that as being false. Obama flat out calls Romney on this.

Romney must have realised he was agreeing with Obama about Iran because now he'd taking a much harder line...though still saying basically the same thing.

So it was an apology tour because Obama didn't visit Israel, which he visited during the last campaign. So what you're saying Romney is that it wasn't an apology tour at all. Maybe America's other allies in the region were pleased that they were the focus of the visit,

"Mr. President, America has not dictated to other nations. We have freed other nations from dictators."  And that is why America is dictating what power sources Iran can and cannot have...wait...

So American influence is less because of economic issues (duh), not throwing money at the military, and not being the super bestest buds with Israel? So those long, expensive, and unpopular wars had nothing to do with it?

Obama again pointing out that Romney is agreeing with him in terms of Iran. That must annoy the GOP given Iran is one of their big foreign policy drums.

Obama slides in a personal story. Ugh, and they were doing so well.

So Romney says he wants out of Afghanistan in 2014. He might want to tell Ryan that. Is this going to be another bit where they just agree with each other and then spend a bunch of time trying to build up minor differences?

Another personal story Obama? For shame.

The mod asks if it's time to divorce Pakistan. I didn't even know you guys were married! I thought we were friends America.

Hmm...Romney has no problems with how Obama is dealing with Pakistan. Is Romney sure he's in the right party? :P

Both men like drones. I imagine UM members threw stuff at their tvs at this point.

China comes up...and we're back into the economy. Romney says the US should partner with China...again have you told Ryan this? Because he seems to think different. Oh wait there's the trade war mention. Though Romney does bring a good point that no one should roll over when China makes demands.

Obama gets in a few digs at Romney which starts an off topic argument. That wasn't needed. Wow they really went at it. All control seems to be lost so the mod makes a joke and tells them to end things.

Obama's closing statement covers a lot of non-foreign policy ground and odd hearing about Romney's dangerous when he spent most of the night agreeing with you. You'll maintain the world's strongest military? Given the US budget it'd be damn hard not to. Romney is going to work with Dems? He might want to tell the GOP that given that last few years. Really Romney are you sure you're in the right party?

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 03:12 AM

nice summary Corp..... hold on a second... Did I just agree with you?  lol

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Posted 24 October 2012 - 12:20 PM

Who really cares. They are both saying what we want to hear. Yes I like Obama. I think he has done ok with the mess he walked into.


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Posted 24 October 2012 - 03:45 PM

View Postacidhead, on 24 October 2012 - 03:12 AM, said:

nice summary Corp..... hold on a second... Did I just agree with you?  lol

Quick nickpick on minor issues so it seems we're very different! :P

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 03:19 AM



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Posted 26 October 2012 - 06:18 AM

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