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Posted 26 October 2012 - 07:33 PM

http://www.foxnews.c...-poll-watchers/

I love this.   Monitors are welcomed but warned about gettin' up in the people's bidness :w00t: :clap:

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 07:53 PM

Let them find fraud and Texas will find out how irrelevant their opinion is.

Considering how close this race is I think its a good idea to have outside monitors.


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Posted 26 October 2012 - 08:17 PM

Don't see the point of this other than empty threats. There's no way Texas is going to vote for anything other than the GOP and everyone knows it.

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 08:36 PM

View PostCorp, on 26 October 2012 - 08:17 PM, said:

Don't see the point of this other than empty threats. There's no way Texas is going to vote for anything other than the GOP and everyone knows it.

In fact, it seems one to be one of those states pollsters really don't care about anymore, Result: known! The sensation would be if the Republicans won by less than 10%

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 08:43 PM

View PostHilander, on 26 October 2012 - 07:53 PM, said:

Let them find fraud and Texas will find out how irrelevant their opinion is.

Considering how close this race is I think its a good idea to have outside monitors.

How are they going to find fraud? They wont be allowed within 100 feet of the polling stations. The UN has no authority in Texas or any other state what so ever.

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 09:07 PM

View PostCorp, on 26 October 2012 - 08:17 PM, said:

Don't see the point of this other than empty threats. There's no way Texas is going to vote for anything other than the GOP and everyone knows it.
Precisely the point, Corp.  It's almost certainly an attempt to gin up a protest against conservatives.  But unless the laws of the US are set in abeyance especially for these "inspectors" they have no right to be within 100 ft of a polling place.  No one is allowed to campaign or pontificate any closer than that on election day.  This is why the New BPP's little thug patrol outside a polling station was blatantly wrong...  Eric Holder should be impeached and indicted over helping lawbreakers.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 02:59 AM

Well the State Department has told the judge to sit in the corner and stop embarrassing the rest of the country.

http://thehill.com/b...une-from-us-law

As it's noted these observations have been happening for ten years now and Texas has been fine with it.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 03:57 AM

View PostHilander, on 26 October 2012 - 07:53 PM, said:

Let them find fraud and Texas will find out how irrelevant their opinion is.

Considering how close this race is I think its a good idea to have outside monitors.

It isn't close, you are being blinded by the MSM.  Don't call me names till November 7th and then ask how I knew/\.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 03:58 AM

View PostCorp, on 27 October 2012 - 02:59 AM, said:

Well the State Department has told the judge to sit in the corner and stop embarrassing the rest of the country.

http://thehill.com/b...une-from-us-law

As it's noted these observations have been happening for ten years now and Texas has been fine with it.

The fact that you would allow the most corrupt organization on earth, the UN, into our polling places speaks volumes.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 04:54 AM

View PostMerc14, on 27 October 2012 - 03:58 AM, said:

The fact that you would allow the most corrupt organization on earth, the UN, into our polling places speaks volumes.

Yes it does. It speaks to the US being part of the world community and being proud to show off their election process to the world.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 05:08 AM

View PostCorp, on 27 October 2012 - 04:54 AM, said:

Yes it does. It speaks to the US being part of the world community and being proud to show off their election process to the world.
Oil for Food program.  Look it up and then address those that know far more than you son.  LMAO.  Any person who looks at the UN and writes "US being part of the world community and being proud to show off their election process to the world" and equates that with being a good world citizen is agonizingly uninformed.  Oil for food was a billion dollar theft and you need to do a bit of study before you write crap like that.  Go look at who is on the UN human rights council and decide.

There is a point, I guess, when one is to old or to gentrified to ever change their mind despite the proof. I guess that you are past that point and therefore beyond cogent conversation.  Nothing anyone could show you or say, would sway your support for this failed president.

I'd like to ask you a question.  If Obama shot Romney in the head on the White House lawn tomorrow, would vote for him on November 6th?

How you answer that question here is kind of irrlevant but how you answer it to yourself is very important because it will tell you if you have drifted into 1939 territory.

Edited by Merc14, 27 October 2012 - 05:12 AM.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 05:30 AM

View PostMerc14, on 27 October 2012 - 05:08 AM, said:

Oil for Food program.  Look it up and then address those that know far more than you son.  LMAO.  Any person who looks at the UN and writes "US being part of the world community and being proud to show off their election process to the world" and equates that with being a good world citizen is agonizingly uninformed.  Oil for food was a billion dollar theft and you need to do a bit of study before you write crap like that.  Go look at who is on the UN human rights council and decide.

There is a point, I guess, when one is to old or to gentrified to ever change their mind despite the proof. I guess that you are past that point and therefore beyond cogent conversation.  Nothing anyone could show you or say, would sway your support for this failed president.

I'd like to ask you a question.  If Obama shot Romney in the head on the White House lawn tomorrow, would vote for him on November 6th?

How you answer that question here is kind of irrlevant but how you answer it to yourself is very important because it will tell you if you have drifted into 1939 territory.

Let's see...

Bringing up a completely irrelevant matter in relation to the topic at hand. So does this mean everyone can judge the US based on its worst actions? We better shut up about the pipeline because them Yanks are going to bomb us and take our oil. :rolleyes:

Ad hominem fallacy. And rather amusing given how over the top bias you yourself are.

You would let a murderer run for president? What kind of messed up political system do you have? (seriously Merc that was just stupid)

Then why ask the question at all? And I'm doing just fine in the 21st century. Just wish more people were as well given how eager they are to push back the clock. Besides FDR wasn't that bad of a president. And that's when American started to slowly realise there was a world beyond their borders.


Now perhaps we can return to the topic at hand Merc. Namely why are you so terrified that international observers, who have been involved in American elections for over a decade now with zero problems, will be quietly and peacefully watching how this election unfolds? If everything is fair and above the board then what's the problem? Just because you don't like the UN, or think they're evil, or icky, or whatever your deal is the fact for the matter is all they're doing is watching. That's it. They can't affect the outcome in any way. So where's the fear coming from?

Edited by Corp, 27 October 2012 - 05:42 AM.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 05:50 AM

View PostCorp, on 27 October 2012 - 05:30 AM, said:

Let's see...

Bringing up a completely irrelevant matter in relation to the topic at hand. So does this mean everyone can judge the US based on its worst actions? We better shut up about the pipeline because them Yanks are going to bomb us and take our oil. :rolleyes:

Ad hominem fallacy. And rather amusing given how over the top bias you yourself are.

You would let a murderer run for president? What kind of messed up political system do you have? (seriously Merc that was just stupid)

Then why ask the question at all? And I'm doing just fine in the 21st century. Just wish more people were as well given how eager they are to push back the clock. Besides FDR wasn't that bad of a president. And that's when American started to slowly realise there was a world beyond their borders.


Now perhaps we can return to the topic at hand Merc. Namely why are you so terrified that international observers, who have been involved in American elections for over a decade now with zero problems, will be quietly and peacefully watching how this election unfolds? If everything is fair and above the board then what's the problem? Just because you don't like the UN, or think they're evil, or icky, or whatever your deal is the fact for the matter is all they're doing is watching. That's it. They can't affect the outcome in any way. So where's the fear coming from?

Hmm, so you are not denying that the Food-for-Oil program syphoned billions into the personal bank accounts of Kofi and others?

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 06:00 AM

The food for oil corruption is well known and again irrelevant to the topic at hand. Ten years. Ten years international observers have watched various American elections with no one giving a damn. Why is this time so scary?

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 08:50 AM

View PostHilander, on 26 October 2012 - 07:53 PM, said:

Let them find fraud and Texas will find out how irrelevant their opinion is.

Considering how close this race is I think its a good idea to have outside monitors.

Spoken like a true socialist. Regardless of your opinion, Texas has every right to block the monitors. Last election, we had dead people voting as well as people voting multiple times for Obama. Why no concern for that?

You don't foresee the UN favoring Obama, considering how left most of those countries are?

Edited by Legaia, 27 October 2012 - 08:53 AM.





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