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[The world needs you]

Obviously the party of Perry is wanting to hide something.

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Corp, on 27 October 2012 - 04:54 AM, said:

Yes it does. It speaks to the US being part of the world community and being proud to show off their election process to the world.

I'd like to see a list of all the locations they plan to monitor.  Then see how the reports find problems.  The UN is a sham organization that is run by thugocracies and used by various western countries as a fig leaf for their designs.  It should be dismantled.

[HerNibs]

Oh wow, this happens all the time.  Laws allow for observers.  There are rules set in place.  It's been happening for years all over the country.  The observers aren't allowed to talk to the voters, can't get near machines, can't bother the poll workers, can't get near ballots or wear anything that can be considered biased.

The observers are and have been from all over the world.  Nothing new just fear mongering.

Nibs

[HerNibs]

and then, on 27 October 2012 - 10:15 AM, said:

I'd like to see a list of all the locations they plan to monitor.  Then see how the reports find problems.  The UN is a sham organization that is run by thugocracies and used by various western countries as a fig leaf for their designs.  It should be dismantled.

You can contact the county election office or the secretary of state and get lists.  Observers have to have permission.  An individual cannot just hang out at a polling place all day long.

Nibs

[Corp]

Still waiting for an explanation for the fear, other than 'grrr them darn foreigners!'. Do people actually expect that the UN monitors, who will be watching things and nothing more, are somehow going to rig the election so that Texas votes for Obama? And that everyone would accept this? Because that would make no sense at all. All this just seems to be a xenophobic reaction.

[Merc14]

Corp, on 27 October 2012 - 04:39 PM, said:

Still waiting for an explanation for the fear, other than 'grrr them darn foreigners!'. Do people actually expect that the UN monitors, who will be watching things and nothing more, are somehow going to rig the election so that Texas votes for Obama? And that everyone would accept this? Because that would make no sense at all. All this just seems to be a xenophobic reaction.

Fear?  Who said anything about fear, it isn't fear it is the sheer audacity of that corrupt organization declaring that our elections must be monitored because we require a voter identify themselves.  I'd like to know why you fear v=oter ID?  You need to prove you are 21 to buy a beer but you can't flash some ID to vote?  I know why democrats fear ID, it is because it slows down the cheating.

Edited by Merc14, 27 October 2012 - 06:20 PM.

[Corp]

Monitoring that has been going on for ten years with full US government approval. Are you not getting that?


And I don't fear voter ID. I need to provide photo ID when I vote. But it should be provided by the government for free and it shouldn't be brought up right before an election. Better to do it in a year or so that way everyone can ensure that they get the IDs needed to vote.

[ninjadude]

Merc14, on 27 October 2012 - 06:19 PM, said:

  You need to prove you are 21 to buy a beer but you can't flash some ID to vote?

It may come as a shock to you but not everyone buys beer.

[Merc14]

Corp, on 27 October 2012 - 07:37 PM, said:

Monitoring that has been going on for ten years with full US government approval. Are you not getting that?


And I don't fear voter ID. I need to provide photo ID when I vote. But it should be provided by the government for free and it shouldn't be brought up right before an election. Better to do it in a year or so that way everyone can ensure that they get the IDs needed to vote.

Please, it has been brought up for years and years and years in every state and is now the law in the majority of states because we have been hammering away at it. The constant fraud the democrats use to get people like Frankin elected has repulsed normal folks and we are making sure it will be harder to do in the future.

This UN incursion is being publicized now because we can.  We didn't have the power to do it before but the MSM went so far in the bag for Barry that the country is repulsed by the press.  You guys are losing power because you have failed, miserably, in every respect and you are looking at a decade of obscurity.  See Reagan and then double it.

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Corp, on 27 October 2012 - 04:39 PM, said:

Still waiting for an explanation for the fear, other than 'grrr them darn foreigners!'. Do people actually expect that the UN monitors, who will be watching things and nothing more, are somehow going to rig the election so that Texas votes for Obama? And that everyone would accept this? Because that would make no sense at all. All this just seems to be a xenophobic reaction.

They need do no more than make accusations.  No one will question them and the left will jump on with both spiked heels... If the UN had ANY credibility for being impartial I'd welcome the oversight.  They are anti American to their core.

[Legaia]

ninjadude, on 27 October 2012 - 08:47 PM, said:

It may come as a shock to you but not everyone buys beer.

What does that have to do with the principle of the matter? There are DEAD people voting.

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HerNibs, on 27 October 2012 - 02:43 PM, said:

You can contact the county election office or the secretary of state and get lists.  Observers have to have permission.  An individual cannot just hang out at a polling place all day long.

Nibs

I'll take your word Nibs.  But if they have to meet all those conditions then what exactly do they have a chance to observe?  I have no problem with an honest broker.  But when was the last time you recall ANYTHING coming out of the UN being favorable to the US?

[HerNibs]

and then, on 28 October 2012 - 03:48 AM, said:

I'll take your word Nibs.  But if they have to meet all those conditions then what exactly do they have a chance to observe?  I have no problem with an honest broker.  But when was the last time you recall ANYTHING coming out of the UN being favorable to the US?

Usually foreign observers are there to learn and watch the process.  The only time I have heard of (and experienced) an observer interfering is from a party observer.

I actually volunteered to go to Afghanistan to help with the first elections.  hubby said no.



Nibs

[Merc14]

HerNibs, on 28 October 2012 - 12:23 PM, said:

Usually foreign observers are there to learn and watch the process.  The only time I have heard of (and experienced) an observer interfering is from a party observer.

I actually volunteered to go to Afghanistan to help with the first elections.  hubby said no.



Nibs

You are correct nibs and observing to learn is a great idea. The problem this year is that the observers were requested by the NAACP and ACLU in protest of voter ID Laws.  That is infuriating to many.

http://www.examiner....on-election-day

Edited by Merc14, 28 October 2012 - 03:04 PM.

[Corp]

Merc14, on 28 October 2012 - 02:18 AM, said:

Please, it has been brought up for years and years and years in every state and is now the law in the majority of states because we have been hammering away at it. The constant fraud the democrats use to get people like Frankin elected has repulsed normal folks and we are making sure it will be harder to do in the future.

This UN incursion is being publicized now because we can.  We didn't have the power to do it before but the MSM went so far in the bag for Barry that the country is repulsed by the press.  You guys are losing power because you have failed, miserably, in every respect and you are looking at a decade of obscurity.  See Reagan and then double it.

I didn't know the Dems were in power in 2002 when monitoring started. Ah yes Regan, now there's someone who seems to be worshiped...even though he'd likely get kicked out of the GOP for being too liberal. Bottom like is you're freaking out about nothing.

and then, on 28 October 2012 - 02:26 AM, said:

They need do no more than make accusations.  No one will question them and the left will jump on with both spiked heels... If the UN had ANY credibility for being impartial I'd welcome the oversight.  They are anti American to their core.

So you honestly think that the observers will claim that Texas voted Dem and that everyone will believe them? Really?