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#16    lightly

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 04:11 PM

I'm astounded by the brutality mankind is capable of.   The middle ages was a creative time for tortuous devices and means  and often combined punishment with public entertainment.   You might be hanged until half dead... ( YAY!!!)   then have your private parts removed.. (HaHaHa!*)   then be disemboweled (Yes!) .. then drawn and quartered  and your quarters put on display in four different public locations , or any number of arrangements and combinations of punishments  deemed commensurate to the offense .
    But fines  were , and still are, the favorite form of "justice".

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 04:23 PM

I believe that St.Juliana,or another early  martyer saint  was sawn in half.Seem to recall seeing in a book a photo of an old fresco of the saint. No limit to the insanity of the human mind to create such horros.


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Posted 30 October 2012 - 04:58 AM

Really discusting stories people.. Maybe this wasnt a good idea afterall.. But then again, it is part of our history. And if were are ever to learn and not repeat history, we must know our history.

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 04:03 PM

Well, there was the Chinese 'Death by a Thousand Cuts' where the 1000 mark was probably never reached.  Also the boringly famous crucifixion in it's many variations.

But reall any wound that allows you to live for a few days is immensly painful.


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Posted 05 November 2012 - 05:16 PM

In current day America, the most horendous tourture imaginable is being exposed to the bizillion political ads.


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Posted 05 November 2012 - 06:02 PM

 Bling, on 27 October 2012 - 08:40 PM, said:

That was very christian of them :rolleyes:

That wasn't a true Christian, Bling.

True Christian's actually listen to what Jesus mentions about loving your enemy, love thy neighbor, thou shalt not murder, and so on.

And for the record, the Pope isn't a Christian, either. He's blessed wars and told soldiers to kill people in the name of God.

Think, before you mock Christian's. The evil ones are not Christian, regardless of what they tell you.

Peace.


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Posted 05 November 2012 - 07:51 PM

 Insaniac, on 05 November 2012 - 06:02 PM, said:



That wasn't a true Christian, Bling.

True Christian's actually listen to what Jesus mentions about loving your enemy, love thy neighbor, thou shalt not murder, and so on.

And for the record, the Pope isn't a Christian, either. He's blessed wars and told soldiers to kill people in the name of God.

Think, before you mock Christian's. The evil ones are not Christian, regardless of what they tell you.

Peace.

I was not mocking Christians. If you took it that way then that's your issue. Yes there are good and bad Christians, but if someone chooses the title of 'Christian' then they have to realise they are aligning themselves with the bad part as well as the good. If someone said to me I'm  a Christian' am I supposed to ask 'are you a good Christian or bad Christian'? No one is going to say they are bad Christian! Christianity is  a faith which follows the god of the bible and Jesus, I should know as I was one once- but you can't expect society to be able to tell which is a bad or good Christian, they take the label then they take the consequences, and many like the martyrdom than comes with it as suffering for Christ is considered a good thing.
And the Pope is considered to be of a Christian denomination, be careful not to mock him or you might offend Catholics. ;)

Edited by Bling, 05 November 2012 - 07:53 PM.


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Posted 05 November 2012 - 08:59 PM

 Ninhursag, on 28 October 2012 - 04:20 PM, said:

Oh my one is more gruesome than the other .. :cry:

However, this one makes makes the hair on my neck stand up:

Sawing:

In Execution by sawing, the criminal would be hung upside-down and a large saw would be used to cut their body in half, starting with the groin, all the way to the head. Because the person was hanging upside-down, the brain received sufficient blood to keep them alive until the saw finally reached the main blood vessels in the abdomen. In the Asian version of this execution, the victim would stand upright and the sawing would begin at the top of the head.

This method of execution was used in the Middle East, Europe, and parts of Asia. It was also used in the Roman Empire and was considered to be the favorite punishment dished out by Emperor Caligula.

Of Course this would be Caligula's favorite, he like the most humiliating and gruesome killings, ughh. Kinda interesting how they come up with all these ways though.


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Posted 05 November 2012 - 10:31 PM

Since the OP mentioned torture applied to a Viking, I thought I would mention a common practice used by Vikings.

http://en.wikipedia....iki/Blood_eagle

As for "most gruesome", I would go with the Assyrian practice of flaying people alive and nailing their skins on walls.


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Posted 06 November 2012 - 08:30 AM

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That was very christian of them :rolleyes:

 Bling, on 05 November 2012 - 07:51 PM, said:

I was not mocking Christians. If you took it that way then that's your issue. Yes there are good and bad Christians, but if someone chooses the title of 'Christian' then they have to realise they are aligning themselves with the bad part as well as the good. If someone said to me I'm  a Christian' am I supposed to ask 'are you a good Christian or bad Christian'? No one is going to say they are bad Christian! Christianity is  a faith which follows the god of the bible and Jesus, I should know as I was one once- but you can't expect society to be able to tell which is a bad or good Christian, they take the label then they take the consequences, and many like the martyrdom than comes with it as suffering for Christ is considered a good thing.
And the Pope is considered to be of a Christian denomination, be careful not to mock him or you might offend Catholics. ;)

This isn't about getting even, however this post is *not* aimed directly at you.

Now, If the Pope is a Christian, why does he tell people to do the things Jesus told us not to do? He's been accused of molesting altar boys, which I don't believe Jesus would agree with. True Christianity isn't hypocritical.

This part of the most is aimed at you, because I love you to pieces: I'd love for you to experience God's love as it seems you haven't encountered God's presence before: the feeling of heavy, tangible, all-consuming, unconditional love. I came into contact with it at a Kingom Hall for Jehovah's Witnesses.

Evil people, cannot truly be Christian's, because their works are wicked, and go against God's very nature of loving kindness.

There is no middle-ground. One either is living for Good or living for Evil. It may not be obvious, but it's there.

I think I've made it clear. People who do wicked & evil things, cannot, by nature, be a Christian. They can be liar's and claim they're Christian, but thats it.

Also, It's not only unkind, disrespectful, and hurtful to insult, but it's also against forum rules, so next time, think before you decide to rip on Christian's. ^ ^

p.s. Before you try to note I'm insulting people with this post, I'm not. It is a seperate thing to tell a negative truth about somebody, than to flat-out try to insult someone.

Peace.


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Posted 06 November 2012 - 09:22 AM

Vlad the Impaler sat his victims on top of thick, sharpened wooden poles and they slowly slid down.


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Posted 06 November 2012 - 10:58 AM

 Insaniac, on 06 November 2012 - 08:30 AM, said:





This isn't about getting even, however this post is *not* aimed directly at you.

Now, If the Pope is a Christian, why does he tell people to do the things Jesus told us not to do? He's been accused of molesting altar boys, which I don't believe Jesus would agree with. True Christianity isn't hypocritical.

This part of the most is aimed at you, because I love you to pieces: I'd love for you to experience God's love as it seems you haven't encountered God's presence before: the fe
eling of heavy, tangible, all-consuming, unconditional love. I came into contact with it at a Kingom Hall for Jehovah's Witnesses.

Evil people, cannot truly be Christian's, because their works are wicked, and go against God's very nature of loving kindness.

There is no middle-ground. One either is living for Good or living for Evil. It may not be obvious, but it's there.

I think I've made it clear. People who do wicked & evil things, cannot, by nature, be a Christian. They can be liar's and claim they're Christian, but thats it.

Also, It's not only unkind, disrespectful, and hurtful to insult, but it's also against forum rules, so next time, think before you decide to rip on Christian's. ^ ^

p.s. Before you try to note I'm insulting people with this post, I'm not. It is a seperate thing to tell a negative truth about somebody, than to flat-out try to insult someone.

Peace.



Erm... Where have I insulted anyone? And I have had a deep and meaningful relationship with God....or so I thought, I now believe it to be a psychological experience based on wishful thinking, hysteria and mind control.


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Posted 06 November 2012 - 11:33 AM

 Insaniac, on 05 November 2012 - 06:02 PM, said:

That wasn't a true Christian, Bling.
And no true scotsman puts sugar in his porridge.


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Posted 06 November 2012 - 08:10 PM

 Insaniac, on 05 November 2012 - 06:02 PM, said:

That wasn't a true Christian, Bling.

True Christian's actually listen to what Jesus mentions about loving your enemy, love thy neighbor, thou shalt not murder, and so on.

And for the record, the Pope isn't a Christian, either. He's blessed wars and told soldiers to kill people in the name of God.

Think, before you mock Christian's. The evil ones are not Christian, regardless of what they tell you.

Peace.

 Insaniac, on 06 November 2012 - 08:30 AM, said:

This isn't about getting even, however this post is *not* aimed directly at you.

Now, If the Pope is a Christian, why does he tell people to do the things Jesus told us not to do? He's been accused of molesting altar boys, which I don't believe Jesus would agree with. True Christianity isn't hypocritical.

This part of the most is aimed at you, because I love you to pieces: I'd love for you to experience God's love as it seems you haven't encountered God's presence before: the feeling of heavy, tangible, all-consuming, unconditional love. I came into contact with it at a Kingom Hall for Jehovah's Witnesses.

Evil people, cannot truly be Christian's, because their works are wicked, and go against God's very nature of loving kindness.

There is no middle-ground. One either is living for Good or living for Evil. It may not be obvious, but it's there.

I think I've made it clear. People who do wicked & evil things, cannot, by nature, be a Christian. They can be liar's and claim they're Christian, but thats it.

Also, It's not only unkind, disrespectful, and hurtful to insult, but it's also against forum rules, so next time, think before you decide to rip on Christian's. ^ ^

p.s. Before you try to note I'm insulting people with this post, I'm not. It is a seperate thing to tell a negative truth about somebody, than to flat-out try to insult someone.

Peace.

I have no idea what you are talking about. I've highlighted some of your post to let you see that I thought you were referring directly to me - you said my name! I don't want to discuss this with you anymore, I don't understand where your hostility is coming from! Peace.


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Posted 23 November 2012 - 09:28 AM

 Stan937, on 05 November 2012 - 04:03 PM, said:

Well, there was the Chinese 'Death by a Thousand Cuts' where the 1000 mark was probably never reached.  Also the boringly famous crucifixion in it's many variations.

But reall any wound that allows you to live for a few days is immensly painful.

This could be done with cane grass, lime grass or most wild grasses by whipping over again, enough to braise the skin but no massive blood loss, the real kicker would be the mental anguish of being tyed up with a million paper like cuts all over you in the elements and not being able to scratch.

For me the most brutal torture I can think of is the water drip I REALLY! don't go well with being still/bored/repeditivness. haha

On the other hand the punjab traps and snake pits are pretty horrid.

You could even go as far back as seafearers using unwanted staff or muntineed captains as bait for food tied to the boat with a little cut and dragged along as burley :)

why is everyone so &^%$ing concerned with "the end"...
new beginnings is what you should be concerned about...




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