Interesting video which shows a number of craft visible through IR equipment estimated about 200miles out.
What are everyones thoughts?
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video showing UFO 200miles in space using IR
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, Oct 30 2012 07:54 AM
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Posted 30 October 2012 - 07:54 AM
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Posted 30 October 2012 - 08:30 AM
There here.
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Posted 30 October 2012 - 08:40 AM
sign me up .. shooting ET ...
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Posted 30 October 2012 - 09:06 AM
The Karman Line is about 100K, and this is another 100 K beyond that. The Karman line is were aerodynamic lift becomes unachievable. Traces of our atmosphere can reach 800 KM's away, but the ISS sits at only 400 Kms up. Only he says.
The Hubble and satellites sit at about 380 KM's. So whilst I cannot see the Youtube Vid posted, I can tell you that if something it 200 Kms up, it will be coming back down again sometime soon. 200 Ks and under means rapid decay of orbit. It is not really space but LEO.
Could I trouble someone to tell me what it is we are looking at?
ETA oops, just noticed you were talking miles. Bah, imperial measurements!
That puts you around the ISS height then. Cannot be bothered with all the other conversions.
The Hubble and satellites sit at about 380 KM's. So whilst I cannot see the Youtube Vid posted, I can tell you that if something it 200 Kms up, it will be coming back down again sometime soon. 200 Ks and under means rapid decay of orbit. It is not really space but LEO.
Could I trouble someone to tell me what it is we are looking at?
ETA oops, just noticed you were talking miles. Bah, imperial measurements!
That puts you around the ISS height then. Cannot be bothered with all the other conversions.
Edited by psyche101, 30 October 2012 - 09:11 AM.
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Posted 30 October 2012 - 09:58 AM
uprize, on 30 October 2012 - 07:54 AM, said:
Interesting video which shows a number of craft visible through IR equipment estimated about 200miles out.
What are everyones thoughts?
What are everyones thoughts?
once i believed that starlight could guide me home
now i know that light is old and stars are cold
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Posted 30 October 2012 - 10:15 AM
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Posted 30 October 2012 - 11:14 AM
psyche101, on 30 October 2012 - 09:06 AM, said:
The Karman Line is about 100K, and this is another 100 K beyond that. The Karman line is were aerodynamic lift becomes unachievable. Traces of our atmosphere can reach 800 KM's away, but the ISS sits at only 400 Kms up. Only he says.
The Hubble and satellites sit at about 380 KM's. So whilst I cannot see the Youtube Vid posted, I can tell you that if something it 200 Kms up, it will be coming back down again sometime soon. 200 Ks and under means rapid decay of orbit. It is not really space but LEO.
Could I trouble someone to tell me what it is we are looking at?
ETA oops, just noticed you were talking miles. Bah, imperial measurements!
That puts you around the ISS height then. Cannot be bothered with all the other conversions.
The Hubble and satellites sit at about 380 KM's. So whilst I cannot see the Youtube Vid posted, I can tell you that if something it 200 Kms up, it will be coming back down again sometime soon. 200 Ks and under means rapid decay of orbit. It is not really space but LEO.
Could I trouble someone to tell me what it is we are looking at?
ETA oops, just noticed you were talking miles. Bah, imperial measurements!
That puts you around the ISS height then. Cannot be bothered with all the other conversions.
More text book references to absolutely no end. Thanks for the science lesson.
Now what about the UFO's?
Edited by zoser, 30 October 2012 - 11:17 AM.
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Posted 30 October 2012 - 12:00 PM
To learn more about this, I began watching this doc. I haven't finished it yet so I have no conclusion at this time.
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Posted 30 October 2012 - 12:46 PM
Steve Kates a noted astronomer (aka 'Dr Sky') takes a look at the footage. This can be seen at 2:40 on the following clip.
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Posted 30 October 2012 - 03:09 PM
joc, on 30 October 2012 - 09:58 AM, said:
My thoughts are that this is just about the lamest video I have ever seen. Phew....
I couldn't agree more... It is amazing to me that this many people went out there and were convinced that they were actually seeing space craft. Mind boggling.
Is it just me or did the "delta" look like a flock of birds?
Downright painful to observe so much stupid packed into one little video.
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 01:45 AM
booNyzarC, on 30 October 2012 - 03:09 PM, said:
I couldn't agree more... It is amazing to me that this many people went out there and were convinced that they were actually seeing space craft. Mind boggling.
Is it just me or did the "delta" look like a flock of birds?
Downright painful to observe so much stupid packed into one little video.
Is it just me or did the "delta" look like a flock of birds?
Downright painful to observe so much stupid packed into one little video.
....but don't get excited yet.
They are not ET's
They are birds, bats, and insects.
IR picks up thermal heat.
The nifty triangular formation is a triad of satellites...yes they orbit in a triangular formation. Just google it.
...the delta is probably birds
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 01:50 AM
synchronomy, on 31 October 2012 - 01:45 AM, said:
I've looked thru IR viewers and I can personally say this is exactly what you can see!
....but don't get excited yet.
They are not ET's
They are birds, bats, and insects.
IR picks up thermal heat.
The nifty triangular formation is a triad of satellites...yes they orbit in a triangular formation. Just google it.
...the delta is probably birds
....but don't get excited yet.
They are not ET's
They are birds, bats, and insects.
IR picks up thermal heat.
The nifty triangular formation is a triad of satellites...yes they orbit in a triangular formation. Just google it.
...the delta is probably birds
Yes Synch, glad to see you're familiar with such things, though I must admit that at this point I'm not surprised. Your depth of knowledge on the general subject is downright commendable.
If I didn't know better, I'd think you were some kind of debunker incognito...
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 02:28 AM
booNyzarC, on 31 October 2012 - 01:50 AM, said:
Yes Synch, glad to see you're familiar with such things, though I must admit that at this point I'm not surprised. Your depth of knowledge on the general subject is downright commendable.
If I didn't know better, I'd think you were some kind of debunker incognito...
If I didn't know better, I'd think you were some kind of debunker incognito...
I carry my knowledge humbly and do my part to dispell the tinfoil hat stereotype. I don't hold myself out as an expert, because their ain't no such animal in this field.
As far as being a debunker incognito...I suppose that's true.
I take a personal dislike to those that profess to have great knowledge and make money off gullible folks (I don't mean that to be derrogatory) that want so desperately to know we are not alone in this big Universe.
Based on probabilities, it is staggeringly unlikely that we are alone and sorry to say it but...
extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
...and you're sure as hell not going to find it with IR viewers from an army surplus store.
Edited by synchronomy, 31 October 2012 - 02:29 AM.
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 02:34 AM
synchronomy, on 31 October 2012 - 02:28 AM, said:
Thankyou.
I carry my knowledge humbly and do my part to dispell the tinfoil hat stereotype. I don't hold myself out as an expert, because their ain't no such animal in this field.
As far as being a debunker incognito...I suppose that's true.
I take a personal dislike to those that profess to have great knowledge and make money off gullible folks (I don't mean that to be derrogatory) that want so desperately to know we are not alone in this big Universe.
Based on probabilities, it is staggeringly unlikely that we are alone and sorry to say it but...
extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
...and you're sure as hell not going to find it with IR viewers from an army surplus store.
I carry my knowledge humbly and do my part to dispell the tinfoil hat stereotype. I don't hold myself out as an expert, because their ain't no such animal in this field.
As far as being a debunker incognito...I suppose that's true.
I take a personal dislike to those that profess to have great knowledge and make money off gullible folks (I don't mean that to be derrogatory) that want so desperately to know we are not alone in this big Universe.
Based on probabilities, it is staggeringly unlikely that we are alone and sorry to say it but...
extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
...and you're sure as hell not going to find it with IR viewers from an army surplus store.
Agreed on all points. I have a similar disdain for what I've come to call the ETH Propaganda Machine. And it is always welcome to see someone that is convinced about visitation who isn't afflicted with SkeptiphobiaTM.
Cheers synch, very glad to have you here.
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 02:38 AM
NASA will tell you,,,, anything moving up there is ice crystals.
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