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[Muzzybluezzy]

HavocWing, on 08 November 2012 - 06:33 PM, said:

So those that don't worship Jesus are expendable?

Muzzybluezzy, on 08 November 2012 - 07:39 PM, said:

I hope I said above clear enough but my reply to your question:
Nature or god or elohim or galactic federation whatever you say for the Creator, it's unimportant, it's important that what or who you want to mean, this order that we experience, disciplines them anyway, even if they don't want to find out truths!
In fact every entity has a value in God's plan but unbelievers don't have a spiritual value because of their godlessness, as the phrase goes that they are like an animal. It's important to notice that bodies change, die but souls live forever. Souls need any spiritual belief to live in a spiritual form. Jesus/Christianity and Abraham's other religions give people the belief of this spiritual form. The rest is people's problem. If you want a certain answer for your question, it's here: "Unfortunately, yes!"

Sorry I misunderstood it some. Now I realized that I am wrong! so sorry folks!

dear HavocWing,

If you mean there being unchristian, in point of spirituality unchristian people that have any creator belief, can improve their souls, too. As far as I know there are some esoteric, occult foundations for irreligionists that have any spiritual belief, but Prophet Abraham's religions (Judaism, Christianity and Islam) make most simple helping people for this development. Moses, Jesus, Muhammad are holy characters of holy books ( differences and conflicts that are between those, root in exterior views, cultural and historical problems, in fact all are crops of Elohim) if you accept them, you easily find out the existence of god in your inwardness, moreover hence Jesus had said: "Whoever has seen me has seen the Father."

Regards.
muzzybluezzy

Edited by Muzzybluezzy, 09 November 2012 - 01:36 AM.

[Bluefinger]

Abramelin, on 31 October 2012 - 01:39 AM, said:

But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them — bring them here and kill them in front of me.

http://bible.cc/luke/19-27.htm


Can someone explain to me what Jesus meant with this?

Jesus was talking about the destruction of Jerusalem.

As they heard these things, he proceeded to tell a parable, because he was near to Jerusalem, and because  they supposed that the kingdom of God was to appear immediately. (Luke 19:11 ESV)

The one who had one minas (or talent) was Jerusalem.  It was taken and given to the Gentiles, who trampled the city underfoot, starting in 70 CE.  Jerusalem did not want Jesus as their king.  By 66 CE, the Gospel had beared great fruit in all places of the world EXCEPT for Jerusalem.  They had chased out the disciples and killed those sent to preach repentance.  If you read Revelation 4-6 in a historical context, and pair it with Matthew 24:14, it can be concluded that the end came in the first century and has been progressing according to God's plan (the sealed scroll of Revelation 5 and 6) since then.

I hope that helped any.

[Bluefinger]

In addition, Luke 21:24 and several other parts of the New Testament spoke of a Times of the Gentiles as beginning after Jerusalem's desolation.  The saints would be persecuted as well as rule, just as the Jews had.  And like Jerusalem, the Gentile capital Rome is to be destroyed to avenge the blood of the saints and the prophets.  (Revelation 19:1-2)