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#16    White Crane Feather

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 08:45 PM

View PostbLu3 de 3n3rgy, on 07 November 2012 - 04:17 PM, said:

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So the 21st of Dec is fast approaching and I can't help but notice that the only entities going on about seeing the world end and ramping up the doomsday bandwagon is the damn media.

I have yet to come across anyone in any metaphysical circle who is interpreting it as the end of all life/existence, like the media claim these circles are. My question arises as, so why is this 'fear mongering belief' being tainted on the metaphysical communities?  

I hate the media and how they try portray something which isn't. If you do your research, you will find it's a few oddball cults conveniently tagged as 'newage movements' (when they are not even that) that may exist and do hamper on about end days. Like the story about the cult who plan to go to that mountain in France to get picked up by the spaceship. Does anyone realise just how tiny and insignificant these little cults/groups are? and how they do not even represent the mainstream of what is called  'new age beliefs'. What they are, are cults with extreme dogma and mind controlled people. They represent nothing but the sadistic nature of psychology and how a cult becomes hive mind in consciousness.   So moving on,  the majority of people i know and within the communities are not interpreting 2012 to be remotely anything to do with the world ending, and never have.  If you do your research properly there is a lot of amazing philosophical and self empowering perspectives out there, being tainted and mucked over by all this crap that nobody even believes or supports.  

The question is why ? is it an agenda at play to deliberately program the masses into automatically associating and therefore rejecting material, info, knowledge, and anyone who shows a clear identity with metaphysical type subjects and practices? Because beneath the fear tainted level of crap there is a lot of valued knowledge for self development, evolution and self empowerment.

Sorry but anyone who is eager for the 21st Dec to pass so they can use it as a knock down tool, or evidence to gloat about how wrong and fake the whole new age / metaphysical communities must be because 'nothing happened', should seriously question whether they are the ones that have fallen victim to the deception of the media and spin machine all along.  Just know that if you want a party to be pissed at, make sure you aim it at the right source of deception, for the all the communities i know of aren't wasting time or energy over 2012 doomsday crap like you all are. There are far more important issues at hand and it heralds far more important changes than the ones who want you to rumble in the fear pitts and then as a result become aggressive and untrusting towards communities who never did say or think, any of these things.
I am so in love with your mind dear... ( others ....please don't interpret that the wrong way... I'm happily maried). The mix of metaphysical knowledge and fire in the belly is quite unique.

Edited by Seeker79, 07 November 2012 - 08:52 PM.

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Posted 07 November 2012 - 08:50 PM

Just to add one more thing. It's not the new agers, wiccans, buddhists, Shinto, Muslims, or even Christians that think 2012 is the end. It's the people who have not defined themselves that do.... Food for thought.

Edited by Seeker79, 07 November 2012 - 08:50 PM.

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 08:35 AM

There's multiple intentions/agenda's behind the doom & gloom imo..
Here's my 2 cent's worth..

Money..
Books, guns, food stuffs, Fall-out shelters. There's a lot of dosh to be made. Creating a market with fear is a standard marketing ploy, there's many layers to this because as well as creating profit it also raises the value of currency.. Am thinking profit & value here, but think theres more to it because currencies are very shaky.. (money is a means of controling people... it is nothing else.. it has no value)

Distraction..
I think this is key.. Media is very good at distracting people from the real truths.. While the main stream middle class are glued to their TV set's they don't notice the police state placing cameras on every corner of their street & invading & shutting down free sources of media.. Am thinking Wikileaks.  

Illusion..
People are less likely to rise up against agressive actions taken by the PTB if they percieve a looming threat.. Am thinking drones in your skies.

Fear..
There is no tool more manipulative than Fear. Making your society live in fear makes them accept changes in law and order that would otherwise be percieved as rash and illogical. Am thinking NDAA.

Apathy..
Why bother? Why bother moaning about how truths are hidden, small freedoms are taken, being watched whever you go, them knowing everything you do with their drones are over your head, and it's illegal to moan.. Why bother when the worlds going to end anayway.. Am thinking being controlled..

Suppression..
Heirachies have all the power..
Power is maintained by suppression..
Self-empowerment destroys heirachies..
Heirachies do not want people to be self-empowered, hense supression though Media..

Edited to add: the over all picture reaks of the PTB using all their power to ensure that we are controlled.. And that we are not self-empowered people.

Edited by Professor T, 08 November 2012 - 08:48 AM.


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Posted 09 November 2012 - 04:16 AM

View PostSeeker79, on 07 November 2012 - 08:50 PM, said:

Just to add one more thing. It's not the new agers, wiccans, buddhists, Shinto, Muslims, or even Christians that think 2012 is the end. It's the people who have not defined themselves that do.... Food for thought.

Like i said, I haven't come across anyone who actually thinks it's to do with the end of the world. Mention 2012 doomsday and the only people who think that it's supposed to end, whether they believe or not, are the people who haven't done their homework and are just automatically linking what the media industries have been spewing out.

The media are awful, they don't write about the multi perspectives of metaphysics and new agers, they zero in on these little obscure oddball cults somewhere, that no one has ever heard of,  and inflate them up to be something that is supposed to be representing all with alt  or non mainstream beliefs/lifestyles. It's pathetic.  I've seen it discussed on this site even where people have this perception and true worry that people in their hordes are going to commit suicide on the 21/22nd or ruin their life's by giving up their jobs/selling their homes/assets because they believe they are leaving the earth.

I would question that very carefully, not seeing any signs that will happen at all. I'm sure there be a cult somewhere that will do something nuts, but cults stand alone, they are not examples of or representations of anything.

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 04:18 AM

View PostProfessor T, on 08 November 2012 - 08:35 AM, said:

There's multiple intentions/agenda's behind the doom & gloom imo..
Here's my 2 cent's worth..

Money..
Books, guns, food stuffs, Fall-out shelters. There's a lot of dosh to be made. Creating a market with fear is a standard marketing ploy, there's many layers to this because as well as creating profit it also raises the value of currency.. Am thinking profit & value here, but think theres more to it because currencies are very shaky.. (money is a means of controling people... it is nothing else.. it has no value)

Distraction..
I think this is key.. Media is very good at distracting people from the real truths.. While the main stream middle class are glued to their TV set's they don't notice the police state placing cameras on every corner of their street & invading & shutting down free sources of media.. Am thinking Wikileaks.  

Illusion..
People are less likely to rise up against agressive actions taken by the PTB if they percieve a looming threat.. Am thinking drones in your skies.

Fear..
There is no tool more manipulative than Fear. Making your society live in fear makes them accept changes in law and order that would otherwise be percieved as rash and illogical. Am thinking NDAA.

Apathy..
Why bother? Why bother moaning about how truths are hidden, small freedoms are taken, being watched whever you go, them knowing everything you do with their drones are over your head, and it's illegal to moan.. Why bother when the worlds going to end anayway.. Am thinking being controlled..

Suppression..
Heirachies have all the power..
Power is maintained by suppression..
Self-empowerment destroys heirachies..
Heirachies do not want people to be self-empowered, hense supression though Media..

Edited to add: the over all picture reaks of the PTB using all their power to ensure that we are controlled.. And that we are not self-empowered people.

Yes all very well said. And i think Apathy is the greatest danger.

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 05:23 AM

Unfortunately, the news media, TV, newspapers, and magazines are show biz.
The are in the business of making money, in a world where only one thing counts...ratings and sales.
If ratings go down they modify their product, that is, format and content, to suit the market.

The words in Don Henley's (Eagles) tune Dirty Laundry sums it up:
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Comes on at five
She can tell you 'bout the plane crash with a gleam
In her eye
It's interesting when people die-
Give us dirty laundry"


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Posted 17 November 2012 - 11:09 PM

Example of the media (msnbc)

http://www.unexplain...0

"We are expecting a few visionaries, a few people who believe in this end of the world, but in extremely limited numbers," state official Eric Freysselinard told Raw Story. "We are expecting greater numbers of people who are just curious, but in numbers we cannot determine. Above all, we are expecting lots of journalists."

So they say they are expecting the so called 'group' conned as visionaries in extremely limited numbers - correct

But expecting lots of journalists..

So they close access to the mountain.

Edited by bLu3 de 3n3rgy, 17 November 2012 - 11:10 PM.

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 12:30 AM

View PostProfessor T, on 08 November 2012 - 08:35 AM, said:

There's multiple intentions/agenda's behind the doom & gloom imo..
Here's my 2 cent's worth..

Money..
Books, guns, food stuffs, Fall-out shelters. There's a lot of dosh to be made. Creating a market with fear is a standard marketing ploy, there's many layers to this because as well as creating profit it also raises the value of currency.. Am thinking profit & value here, but think theres more to it because currencies are very shaky.. (money is a means of controling people... it is nothing else.. it has no value)

Distraction..
I think this is key.. Media is very good at distracting people from the real truths.. While the main stream middle class are glued to their TV set's they don't notice the police state placing cameras on every corner of their street & invading & shutting down free sources of media.. Am thinking Wikileaks.  

Illusion..
People are less likely to rise up against agressive actions taken by the PTB if they percieve a looming threat.. Am thinking drones in your skies.

Fear..
There is no tool more manipulative than Fear. Making your society live in fear makes them accept changes in law and order that would otherwise be percieved as rash and illogical. Am thinking NDAA.

Apathy..
Why bother? Why bother moaning about how truths are hidden, small freedoms are taken, being watched whever you go, them knowing everything you do with their drones are over your head, and it's illegal to moan.. Why bother when the worlds going to end anayway.. Am thinking being controlled..

Suppression..
Heirachies have all the power..
Power is maintained by suppression..
Self-empowerment destroys heirachies..
Heirachies do not want people to be self-empowered, hense supression though Media..

Edited to add: the over all picture reaks of the PTB using all their power to ensure that we are controlled.. And that we are not self-empowered people.

I think you hit the nail right on the head.
If theres one thing that needs to be did away with its the media. Its the whole government for that matter. NOTHING but CORRUPTION. Makes me sick.


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Posted 18 November 2012 - 05:42 AM

View Postnotyalcmas93, on 18 November 2012 - 12:30 AM, said:

I think you hit the nail right on the head.
If theres one thing that needs to be did away with its the media. Its the whole government for that matter. NOTHING but CORRUPTION. Makes me sick.
Thanks, but I think there's a hell of a lot more to it than what I posted. It's a learning process with me. some things I say and post I don't fully understand myself, but know the gist of.. But I do think that the media is a major part of the problem, another part of it being the gullibility of people to be swept away by tangents, opintions, pretty lights and things while the puppeteers are either up to no good or hiding a truth from us..


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Posted 18 November 2012 - 06:11 AM

View Postnotyalcmas93, on 18 November 2012 - 12:30 AM, said:

I think you hit the nail right on the head.
If theres one thing that needs to be did away with its the media.

If you truly believe that Sam, shut your computer off and never turn it on again.

Edited by Likely Guy, 18 November 2012 - 06:15 AM.


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Posted 18 November 2012 - 08:37 PM

View PostProfessor T, on 18 November 2012 - 05:42 AM, said:


Thanks, but I think there's a hell of a lot more to it than what I posted. It's a learning process with me. some things I say and post I don't fully understand myself, but know the gist of.. But I do think that the media is a major part of the problem, another part of it being the gullibility of people to be swept away by tangents, opintions, pretty lights and things while the puppeteers are either up to no good or hiding a truth from us..

I agree completely. With all of that.


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Posted 18 November 2012 - 08:42 PM

View PostLikely Guy, on 18 November 2012 - 06:11 AM, said:



If you truly believe that Sam, shut your computer off and never turn it on again.

Media didnt create computers. I avoid all the media really. This is the only website i am ever really on. Computers have their uses (im actually on my phone but whatever.) BUT i would be happy if the sun did decide to destroy all the electronics.


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Posted 18 November 2012 - 10:30 PM

View Postnotyalcmas93, on 18 November 2012 - 08:42 PM, said:

Media didnt create computers. I avoid all the media really. This is the only website i am ever really on. Computers have their uses (im actually on my phone but whatever.) BUT i would be happy if the sun did decide to destroy all the electronics.

I see your point. I don't watch TV, will rent the odd DVD, listen to only public (commercial free) radio. But if someone on this site made some incredulous claim, I'm compelled to do my own digging to see if they're right or wrong. To do that requires me to visit the mainstream and offstream media. Take the media away and the world gets dumber, not smarter or more free.

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Edited by Likely Guy, 18 November 2012 - 10:34 PM.


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Posted 18 November 2012 - 11:00 PM

View PostbLu3 de 3n3rgy, on 07 November 2012 - 04:46 PM, said:

Consciousness is always shifting, but to understand consciousness shifts, you have to break down consciousness and it's multi tiers/levels. Learning to astral project for example, is one example of learning to shift gears through your own levels of consciousness. Consciousness shifts on a individual level as well as on a mass consciousness level. The projected idea that this is will be a consciousness shift for mass consciousness, is not based on just one shift and that is it. The shifting has been taking place in increments for sometime. But more so over the past year.
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Posted 18 November 2012 - 11:42 PM

View PostbLu3 de 3n3rgy, on 07 November 2012 - 05:13 PM, said:

Good point. A lot of money has been made by much of the entertainment and media industries. Add the gaming industry to that list too.

What I am looking at is when the date passes, who is going to cop all angst and mistrust ? is it fair that it is going to be projected on the metaphysical/new age communities just because they have been linked in people minds to being the identity, the scape goat?

Will people get angry with the entertainment industries and the media who are the ones who have really made millions from it and seek to spin all this doomsday crap to make more?

Its not just those industries either.  For instance - Stone Brewing - a California microbrewery has released an "Enjoy by Dec. 21, 2012 IPA" beer.  Its very tongue-in-cheek, but its a good example of a small company that is selling at least some merchandise on the coattails of this whole thing.

I see this as somewhat different as what you are talking about though.  The entertainment and media industries are a bunch of rat-b******* and are richer than any of us will ever be.  They milk us every chance they get.  They'll hedge their diversified bets enough so they don't look like idiots on Dec. 22.  Like you've noted, they'll blame anybody that looks like a new-age target.

Interesting thread....





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