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#181    Lesionia

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 07:00 PM

I agree, but I have to ask this: Why would someone want to make people believe in something so badly? Is this another conspiracy?


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Posted 23 February 2013 - 07:05 PM

View PostLesionia, on 23 February 2013 - 07:00 PM, said:

I agree, but I have to ask this: Why would someone want to make people believe in something so badly? Is this another conspiracy?

No conspiracy.  Just gullible people doing what gullible people do - believe in stupid stuff that isn't supported by anything other than hearsay.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 08:53 PM

View PostLesionia, on 23 February 2013 - 07:00 PM, said:

I agree, but I have to ask this: Why would someone want to make people believe in something so badly? Is this another conspiracy?
Because some people get their kicks doing things like this.

Make up a clever and convincing urban legend, attach a convincing sounding backstory, doctor some current and historical images, etc.  Post it to various paranormal websites and sit back and smile while people fall for your prank.

Edited by Archimedes, 23 February 2013 - 08:53 PM.

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Posted 23 February 2013 - 09:45 PM

Here's another hoax doing the rounds on various Slender Man wikis, blogs, etc.

The following picture shows on the left a genuine 16th century painting by an artist, Hans Baldung.  The painting is called "Three Ages of Woman and Death".  The right is purported to be an x-ray scan of the painting done in 2003 for in the process of evaluating it for insurance purposes.  Supposedly the x-ray reveals that extra limbs you can see in the x-ray were painted over at an early stage and that this was originally a painting of Slender Man with his extra limbs hidden for some reason by a later artist.

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Unfortunately, it's a Photoshop.  It doesn't look like an x-ray at all in the first place, just a black and white negative, which is what it is.

If you create a negative of the image and convert it to grayscale, you get this:

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If you then overlay a suitable pattern (I couldn't match the original exactly, but I got close enough to make the point) with 50% transparency, you get this:

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From there it's a matter of using the existing arm in front of the figure as the basis for the extra arms.  If you line them up, the arm at the top right neatly overlays the original arm.

And what's the original source for this Slender Man photoshopped image?  Yup, the same Something Awful "Create Paranormal Images" thread that the original Slender Man pics came from and from which the previous images I posted came from.

It's a hoax, perpetuated by both credulous people who have copied and pasted the fake images and fake backstories all over the Internet and a lot of Slenderman fans who clearly enjoy it as a fake legend and enjoy writing and creating fan fiction and fan sites even though they know it's harmless nonsense.

Edited by Archimedes, 23 February 2013 - 09:52 PM.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 12:23 AM

Case in point:  Slenderman books for Kindle

http://www.amazon.co...ords=slenderman

There's even Slenderman straight and gay tentacle erotica.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 03:10 AM

View PostLesionia, on 23 February 2013 - 07:00 PM, said:

I agree, but I have to ask this: Why would someone want to make people believe in something so badly? Is this another conspiracy?

Ask P.T. Barnum. Unfortunately, some individuals monetize their "pranks".

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 03:58 AM

Can it be possible (I know really far out but its worth putting down) Can it be possible someone/some people want the trupila effect to come true on this paticular myth? Are they hoping to accomplish something?


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Posted 24 February 2013 - 06:21 AM

View PostLesionia, on 24 February 2013 - 03:58 AM, said:

Can it be possible (I know really far out but its worth putting down) Can it be possible someone/some people want the trupila effect to come true on this paticular myth? Are they hoping to accomplish something?

The huh?  *scratching my head*

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 08:36 AM

View PostFstop, on 24 February 2013 - 06:21 AM, said:

The huh?  *scratching my head*
I think she means the "Tulpa Effect".

The basic idea is that Slender Man (or whatever other urban myth or legend you care to shoehorn into reality) exists because the collective consciousness "creates" him via the power or thought.

This alludes to a similar idea I mentioned earlier on this thread:

me said:

But a lot of people claim it's real with one of the dubious arguments being that because of the popularity of the Slender Man meme, demons or shadow people or whatever appear in that form because it is in the public consciousness.

Lesionia, can I ask you a question?  You earlier claimed that "Actually slenderman was around in old Germany and around Europe also. It isnt the same name, but the same creature. Some agrue that he goes back as far as Ancient Egypt, but I will have to find the information later."

Was any of the evidence you had seen of that the same as the pics I have discovered are fakes? I still can't find any genuine evidence of an ancient Germand folk legend of "Der Grossman" that isn't obviously an attempt to put a stamp of approval on the Slender Man urban myth.

Edited by Archimedes, 24 February 2013 - 08:37 AM.

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Posted 24 February 2013 - 11:02 PM

Well someone had pointed out that paticular portrait out to me, but I discarded right away. (I couldnt see what they were talking about.)


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Posted 25 February 2013 - 05:04 PM

This probably isn't helpful but... I remember my German grandpa telling me stories about tall dark men of the woods when I was little, and that was 30 years ago. He told tales and wee folk came in all sorts of shapes and sizes. But what he described wasn't at all like the slenderman myth.

I was kind of hopeful when I saw the German connection in this thread and looked up Der Grossman and threw that name out.. Pretty bummed that it's a slenderman thing, and not whatever it was grandpa described in his tales. But I really do appreciate all the research Archimedes :)


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Posted 25 February 2013 - 10:36 PM

View PostThe New Richard Nixon, on 08 November 2012 - 01:01 PM, said:

I think it's an internet myth where people post an image of anything and post a man in a dark suit. It's kinda like where's wally? but more darker and more fun. Some people say there is a story behind it but im not sure.

Oh here is a long slender man thread.
http://www.unexplain...howtopic=157598
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Posted 25 February 2013 - 10:54 PM

View PostLesionia, on 23 February 2013 - 07:00 PM, said:

I agree, but I have to ask this: Why would someone want to make people believe in something so badly? Is this another conspiracy?

I think it just goes to show that with enough hype and realism, people will believe in anything. Always do your research and don't jump to hasty conclusions.

View PostNathan DiYorio, on 19 February 2013 - 07:04 PM, said:

Slenderman might have been built upon similar natural fears to the other spindly-limbed humanoids of legends past (like Grobmann mentioned above.) Whether or not its creators were familiar with those legends, I can't say. If they weren't, it might just be a coincidental appearance generated by the same fears in multiple cultures.

I'd say it could easily be a combined fear of spiders, snakes, octopi, squid, or other spindly beasts with the fear of strangers (who in the past would have either killed or raped you had they happened upon you at night) and the stretching nature of shadows.

I agree. A lot of things we find scary are rooted deep into our conscious and people play on that to scare us even more.

For example, notice how Slenderman doesn't have any eyes? Xenomorphs from the Alien movies don't have any either. This is because when something doesn't have eyes, you can't tell if it's looking at you and it makes it more frightening. (H.R. Griger, concept artist for Alien actually pointed this out.)

Another thing is tentacles. Slenderman has them and so does H.P Lovecraft's monsters. I don't know the exact reason, but if I had to guess, it would probably play on the fear of being entangled or captured (as tentacles can wrap around you and such).

There are probably more examples but these are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head.

Edited by MisstreeDove, 25 February 2013 - 10:54 PM.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 02:52 AM

Found this...
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Slenderman always did remind me of Jack....

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Posted 27 February 2013 - 02:57 PM

I like jack though... Oh and Der Grossman translates to the grossman, which doesnt make sense.






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