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NASA to announce manned moon mission ?


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#16    Junior Chubb

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Posted 08 November 2012 - 10:06 PM

This actually got me excited.

Edited by Junior Chubb, 08 November 2012 - 10:07 PM.


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Posted 09 November 2012 - 12:05 AM

No way. They donīt have the cash for it. The US is fundamentally bankrupt, no matter how much more Obama tries to borrow from China.


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Posted 09 November 2012 - 12:54 AM

Loves me some swiss cheese!


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Posted 09 November 2012 - 07:36 AM

Are they going to hire Russian spaceships ?


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Posted 09 November 2012 - 03:47 PM

Maybe we should try to dig out of our hole, THEN shoot for the moon


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Posted 09 November 2012 - 04:01 PM

This is the kind of positive experience that brings the world together ... enlightens and inspires.


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Posted 09 November 2012 - 04:20 PM

YES! America goes back on the moon! We left our mark there over 40 years ago on 6 out of 7 manned missions (Apollo 13 was an emergency return without a landing)...exciting news report! I seriously doubt NASA is able to financially fund the next missions, unless this is more of an international effort including the Russians, ESA (Europeans), Japan and China to the framework. Maybe Canadians and Mexicans will get to participate this time as part of a North American unified space program. I hope privatization of space travel and exploration will make new missions possible without NASA going entirely alone.

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 05:01 PM

While I feel we need to go back to the moon, we need to get out of debt first as a country.  Now if the oil companies want to finance it then I'd say goffer it!


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Posted 10 November 2012 - 10:35 AM

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note that in the OP link it says that the men who go on the mission will not actually go to the Moon's surface...

they will be in a capsule...

quote from the pic in the OP link...

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Artist's concept of astronauts in an Orion capsule helping direct robotic teleoperations on the moon's farside. (Lockheed Martin)


hear what Senior Research Scientist (Lockheed Martin)  Boyd Bushman has to say about the asteroid named Apophis in the vid below 0:33 > 1:33

and he says..."veer it's orbit"





I think that Bushman and others are probably working flat out to make sure an impact doesn't happen.

But it will take a lot of preparation and this mission that is being discussed is almost certainly part of the preparation IMO.

Saving the World (literally?) isn't just an American problem so it's pretty certain that other nations will be involved.


like Russia....(this article published a month ago)


http://rt.com/news/a...on-mission-908/


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Russia’s space agency wants to send a mission to Apophis, the notorious asteroid which may change its course and eventually collide with Earth. It will plant a radio beacon, which will help track the celestial body and assess the risks it poses.

­The 300-meter-wide asteroid first made headlines in 2004, when NASA reported that it has 1 chance in 223 of impacting on our planet in 2029. It was even named after the Ancient Egyptian evil god, archenemy of the sun god Ra.
But additional observations proved that it will pass by at the small, but safe, distance of some 36,000 kilometers from Earth. The close approach however may result in an unpredictable gravitational pull on Apophis, which would change its course and pose a danger in 2036, when it comes back.



this post isn't intended to be a doom and gloom affair.... :)

because I think 'we' will be successful in making sure the asteroid doesn't hit.

And any sane person can only wish all involved in the project  success and good luck.


that's how I see all this anyway...no one panic...it's going to be ok


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Posted 12 November 2012 - 01:39 AM

Ye` of little foresight ! And as For Obama,He`s only a puppet in the mix,Although a Few Americans are very deep into making this Happen. I will Love to see what Mid has to Say! I sure hope we can pull this all together over the next Decade ! As for America not having the money ? Get a Life people We can print as much as we need to do anything we want to do ! IMO. ANd we will return to the Moon! :tsu:

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Posted 13 November 2012 - 05:19 AM

View Postbee, on 10 November 2012 - 10:35 AM, said:

hear what Senior Research Scientist (Lockheed Martin)  Boyd Bushman has to say about the asteroid named Apophis in the vid below 0:33 > 1:33

and he says..."veer it's orbit"


I think that Bushman and others are probably working flat out to make sure an impact doesn't happen.

Bee

There is no imminent impact. Rather than a warning about the end of days, it's more of a red flag that Bushman is a great man who has lost his marbles. How many astronomy groups do you think exist out there? How many agree with Bushman? Are you trying to tell me that everyone with actual evidence is incorrect, and Bushman's Youtube ramblings are more accurate than the entire planets astronomical community?

At best, 99942 Apophis will reach mag 16. It is not something being hidden either, 99942 Apophis has held the highest Torino rating ever. As for Bushmans important work with worrying about deflecting the asteroid, that plan has already been in place for some time, before the Torino scale adjustment I believe. You might want to Google SpaceWorks Enterprises Inc. LINK - US team wins asteroid competition


Further observations might, and I do mean might, offer a change in direction, but we, and Boyd have no way on earth of knowing that at this point in time. Not even an advanced alien can tell you what gravitational pockets will do in another few decades time. Bushman's information is old hat, are you sure he has also not revised this position in the meantime? You have been posting the same information for some time now. Like all the other astronomical groups, he too may have revised his estimate in the meantime. As a powerful strong advocate of his later and wilder claims, you do have his email adress, maybe you could ask him directly? :innocent:

View Postbee, on 10 November 2012 - 10:35 AM, said:

this post isn't intended to be a doom and gloom affair.... :)


Do not be concerned, it is too inaccurate to be gloomy :D All we have in the end are questions.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 01:40 AM

The good news is they are wanting Mid to Lead up the Missions ! Im All in ! :nw:

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Posted 15 November 2012 - 03:08 PM

@psyche....Boyd Bushman has not 'lost his marbles'.....he is still a consultant for Lockheed Martin


http://boydbushman.com/Home.php


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CLASSIFICATIONS: PROGRAM MANAGER & SENIOR SCIENTIST
(TOP SECRET CLEARANCE)

EXPERIENCE:

Lockheed Martin Aeronautics Company, 1986 to 2000 (and present consultant), Mr. Bushman has participated in Advanced Aircraft Concepts as a member of the technical team. He has conducted European Theater Tactical Fighter performance analysis, coordinated customer interface and development performance concepts. He developed laser, electro-optical sensor, and power systems. He developed and taught analysis courses. Several million-dollar contracts were obtained directly from him. Bushman holds 26 US Patents and classified Patents.



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Posted 16 November 2012 - 03:57 AM

I have to add this about Apophis 99942 At least we know that the Mice really are driveing this planet and its Fate ! Just Look at what they numbered it !  Remember they are German mice! nien,nien,nien  the answer is always 42

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Posted 17 November 2012 - 11:50 AM

Ok let's get back on topic...
The one sensible and on topic thing that bee did say is that this is not a proposal to land men on the moon.
There seems to be a lot of people here assuming that this is an Apollo style landing that is being proposed. It isn't. It is a proposal to have an Orion stationed in the L2 position beyond the moon.

I'm guessing that most people didn't read the article that Saru linked to as no one seems to have noticed the really exciting part, the plan to have men sent to Mars by around 2030.

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