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[questionmark]

libstaK, on 13 November 2012 - 10:54 AM, said:

If the Governor went all "formal" with this - can he be, I don't know tried for "treason" against his constituents?  I highly doubt .002 % of the population is representative of what the majority would like.  Is this the job he was hired to do?  Or is he grandstanding for his own reasons rather than the best interests of ALL the people in his state?

No, especially not in Texas that reserved the right to secede from the Union at any time it want according to the treaty when they joined. Formally every State can leave the union if it gets a majority in a referendum.

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spud the mackem, on 13 November 2012 - 11:27 AM, said:

We in Britain have not liked the last two Govt,s and we have a good moan about it,but we dont get Counties (states) shouting for home rule,its time for the Texan grumblers to pull their socks up and face facts,if they had put in a good candidate instead of messing about with "Mitt" (what kind of a name is that),they may have had a Rep President.Just because Obama is saying its time to tighten belts doesnt make him a bad President as if "Mitt" had won,he would have had to do the same thing.

Ehm... you seem to forget Scotland in this mess, which certainly wants independence. The USA is a union of States...just a few more than Britain.

[shaddow134]

questionmark, on 13 November 2012 - 12:24 PM, said:

Ehm... you seem to forget Scotland in this mess, which certainly wants independence. The USA is a union of States...just a few more than Britain.

Scotland can have it,as far as i'm concerned and the sooner the better.We can bin the Union Jack and fly the Red Cross of St. George over England.

[QuiteContrary]

It's funny, I've had to search down the page of our Houston TV news website to find even mention of this secession petition.

If the map in this thread is correct, it appears the areas with the highest population in Texas voted Democrat. Harris County (Houston) and Dallas County (Dallas).
The rest of the state has far fewer people.

"In terms of raw votes, 70 percent of the Democratic gains are accounted for by just four urban counties: Dallas, Harris, Travis and Bexar. Those counties witnessed minority population gains of 1,575,723 from 2000 to 2010."
"Texas is becoming more diverse every day," said Democratic consultant Paul Begala, a Houston native. "In time it will look more like a Barack Obama state than a Rick Perry state."

http://www.chron.com...lue-4026956.php

Good luck with that petition, it ain't gonna happen.

Edited by QuiteContrary, 13 November 2012 - 03:24 PM.

[Still Waters]

questionmark, on 13 November 2012 - 12:24 PM, said:

Ehm... you seem to forget Scotland in this mess, which certainly wants independence.

Alex Salmond wants independence. The scottish people have yet to vote.

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Still Waters, on 13 November 2012 - 04:06 PM, said:

Alex Salmond wants independence. The scottish people have yet to vote.

Same is true for Texas. Only the name of the goon is not Salmond.

[keithisco]

What I find amusing in all of this Sabre - Rattling is that it was a Republican Administration (Dubya Bush) that actually removed the right of Habeaus Corpus - the most basic of all Rights.

Having literally just returned from 4 weeks in Florida (everybody needs a vacation ) during voting week, there was none of the extreme partisanship that is being displayed here, except on Fox News which I would watch for the sheer entertainment value alone.

Everyone was courteous (in a supermarket I said:"May I just get my Cart past you?", response: "I am very sorry Sir, of course you may" ). Seriously, it is 30 years since my last visit to the USA, and I am heartened to know that most folk are still polite and very accommodating.

The reason for this anecdote?: It is only the right wing extremists that are trying to foment problems in the USA - they are the people to be wary of, the people that the TMA need to target ... because the vast majority of USA Citizens are good, hard working (employed or not) , and honest people.

[-M7]

Remember what happened the last time there was secession America?

[Hasina]

This ain't no thang. The people who believe Texas or any other state will secede are, in my opinion, as Nutter Butters as the people who want to secede.

Edited by Hasina, 13 November 2012 - 04:43 PM.

[Bavarian Raven]

If they can get the majority (say 70% or 2/3rds) of the pop behind them. Then I say let 'em succeed. THe people have the right to self rule if the majority wants it imho

[aztek]

ussr v2?

[supervike]

This whole thread is a mistake.

Gov. Perry has not formally asked for any sort of thing.

Please read the article.

Edited by supervike, 13 November 2012 - 08:26 PM.

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

Does a successful sucession mean no more Bushes in the White House?

[Euphorbia]

Wearer of Hats, on 13 November 2012 - 09:06 PM, said:

Does a successful sucession mean no more Bushes in the White House?

There's still the Florida ones.

[spud the mackem]

questionmark, on 13 November 2012 - 12:24 PM, said:

Ehm... you seem to forget Scotland in this mess, which certainly wants independence. The USA is a union of States...just a few more than Britain.

  No I havnt forgot Scotland,who are being offered a referendum very soon,and can become Independant if the vote carries,but having "chatted" to Eldorado (Scottish lad)  on this site,and a few other Scottish people,it would appear that a minority wants to split with England.If they want to go I wish them luck,but they are a very small Country, with a small population ,(the whole of Scotland has less population than London) so they would probably end up a small cog in the Euro machine,which I dont think would suit them.