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#91    Valdemar the Great

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 05:10 PM

I think the questions' very simple really: do the Republican Party believe in the political system in the U.S as it's currently organised?  Or would they rather have a perpetual one-party dictatorship, that party, of course, being the Republicans? If they would rather have the latter, then for heaven's sake let 'em spin themselves off into a perpetual dictatorship.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 05:41 PM

View Post747400, on 14 November 2012 - 05:10 PM, said:

I think the questions' very simple really: do the Republican Party believe in the political system in the U.S as it's currently organised?  Or would they rather have a perpetual one-party dictatorship, that party, of course, being the Republicans? If they would rather have the latter, then for heaven's sake let 'em spin themselves off into a perpetual dictatorship.
You have to admit that since the Election the GOP have been acting in a very infantile manner,a very big bunch of sore losers.Allen West has got to be the biggest crybaby of them all.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 05:44 PM

There are sore losers but I've seen enough 'sore' winners who've got me turning up my nose at both parties again.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:05 PM

View Postkeithisco, on 13 November 2012 - 04:27 PM, said:

What I find amusing in all of this Sabre - Rattling is that it was a Republican Administration (Dubya Bush) that actually removed the right of Habeaus Corpus - the most basic of all Rights.

Having literally just returned from 4 weeks in Florida (everybody needs a vacation :yes: ) during voting week, there was none of the extreme partisanship that is being displayed here, except on Fox News which I would watch for the sheer entertainment value alone.

Everyone was courteous (in a supermarket I said:"May I just get my Cart past you?", response: "I am very sorry Sir, of course you may" ). Seriously, it is 30 years since my last visit to the USA, and I am heartened to know that most folk are still polite and very accommodating.

The reason for this anecdote?: It is only the right wing extremists that are trying to foment problems in the USA - they are the people to be wary of, the people that the TMA need to target ... because the vast majority of USA Citizens are good, hard working (employed or not) , and honest people.

That is because the Left won. If the Right had won then the Left Wing extremists would be formenting problems, as from 2000-2008. The winners aren't usually disgrunted because they won.

Not sure what the TMA is (google returned the "Texas Medical Association" but I'm pretty sure you aren't talking about them), but if they are a US government agency then they shouldn't be targeting ANY law abiding Americans.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:07 PM

View Postshaddow134, on 14 November 2012 - 05:41 PM, said:

You have to admit that since the Election the GOP have been acting in a very infantile manner,a very big bunch of sore losers.Allen West has got to be the biggest crybaby of them all.

No one can hold a candle to crybaby Gore. West and the other GOPers aren't even close to the crying done by the Dems over Sore/Loserman in 2000.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:12 PM

View Post747400, on 14 November 2012 - 05:10 PM, said:

I think the questions' very simple really: do the Republican Party believe in the political system in the U.S as it's currently organised?  Or would they rather have a perpetual one-party dictatorship, that party, of course, being the Republicans? If they would rather have the latter, then for heaven's sake let 'em spin themselves off into a perpetual dictatorship.

You don't think the Dems would like to win every election? You seem very simple.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:18 PM

View PostBama13, on 14 November 2012 - 06:07 PM, said:

No one can hold a candle to crybaby Gore. West and the other GOPers aren't even close to the crying done by the Dems over Sore/Loserman in 2000.

To the contrary of the sore looser of 2012 at least he had the popular vote on his side, this time it is not even near a majority.

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:30 PM

View PostSimbi Laveau, on 13 November 2012 - 04:06 AM, said:

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Texas has asked to secede before ,or has dalied with the notion .
This request actually came from governor Rick Perry ,and this is the moron who lost to Obama last time.
Sour grapes .
(Yes I know he didnt run against him,but he was the candidate that was the comic relief of the last election)
These idiots do realize they will now all need passports ,to go into other states if they do this..
I think its time for Obama to tighten immigration laws,and see how they like it,if they need a visa to visit relatives in other states .
Morons .

Morons or Idiots or both is irrelevent.
What i am taking away from all of this is that you are just another Obama supporter and are ignoring the REAL problem which is WHY would all these states be even thinking this way?
Maybe you could take off your rose colored glasses and rrealize that there are a LOT of Americans that do not agree with ignoring the Constitution and turning this nation into a Socialists state.
We do not need to be like Europe, things over there arent so awesome when the govt can no longer afford to care for its people with Social programs.
People are rioting in the streets because the govts are dropping the very programs Obama is trying to bring to America.
Can we not even open our eyes long enough to see that we are headed the same direction?
Obama refuses to cut social programs, yet he plans on taxing us more.
I remember once upon a time Democrats were up in arms when the GOP had Tax and Spend policies.
Instead of laughing at those talking about breaking away, ask yourself how bad have things gotten where they would even talk about it.
Not everyone shares your love for Obamas social agenda.


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Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:33 PM

I would be happy to let Texas and the other Confederate States go, then we can finally be free of them and make the United States what it should have been all along, without them always holding the rest of us back and trying to regress into the 19th Century.


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Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:34 PM

View Postquestionmark, on 14 November 2012 - 06:18 PM, said:

To the contrary of the sore looser of 2012 at least he had the popular vote on his side, this time it is not even near a majority.

Obama got more of the popular vote than Bush ever did, while Romney didn't even get as many votes as McCain in 2008.


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Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:34 PM

View PostGromdor, on 13 November 2012 - 04:56 AM, said:

38 electoral votes that are guaranteed red leaving the US?  If I were a Democrat I'd be all for Texas leaving.

When the GOP leaves who will remain to pay all your welfare payments?
All Blue areas in texas represent areas where the immigrants and welfare recepients live..


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Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:36 PM

View Postshaddow134, on 14 November 2012 - 04:26 PM, said:

Just seen a poll on CNN and 53% say that the GOP will be to blame if an agreement over the Fiscal Cliff cannot be reached.

If its not Bush's fault its the GOP's fault.
Cant possibly blame the powers in charge for spending like teenage girls with a credit card.


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Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:39 PM

View PostTheMacGuffin, on 14 November 2012 - 06:34 PM, said:

Obama got more of the popular vote than Bush ever did, while Romney didn't even get as many votes as McCain in 2008.

Hard to get a person to vote against you as long as you keep the entitlement progtrams up and running.
GOP doesnt stand a chance with their old fashioned beliefs that a man should work as opposed to accepting welfare and sitting at home.

View PostTheMacGuffin, on 14 November 2012 - 06:33 PM, said:

I would be happy to let Texas and the other Confederate States go, then we can finally be free of them and make the United States what it should have been all along, without them always holding the rest of us back and trying to regress into the 19th Century.

Whats that exactly?
Europe?


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Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:43 PM

View Postshaddow134, on 14 November 2012 - 05:41 PM, said:

You have to admit that since the Election the GOP have been acting in a very infantile manner,a very big bunch of sore losers.Allen West has got to be the biggest crybaby of them all.

I recall a very classy speech from Romney to Obama the very night of the results.
West is the ONLY one still screaming about the elections.
I hear people discussing the DIRECTION of the country and Benghazi, and other political items that actually NEED to be discussed.
You seem to paint your picture with a very wide brush.


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Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:52 PM

View PostBama13, on 14 November 2012 - 06:12 PM, said:

You don't think the Dems would like to win every election? You seem very simple.
Ah, how to patronise someone. So, after the '00 and '04 Elections, Dem-dominated states did the same thing, did they? (Even though, since they did actually get more votes than GW in the first one, they might have had a reaosonable argument for doing so.... :innocent: )

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