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[markdohle]

braveone2u, on 19 November 2012 - 07:46 AM, said:

"I believe that the greatest longing in the heart is love, or union, and that longing is personal." Speaking of love and heart, I'm still healing... Hello Mark.
I agree with you. It's the reason why I'm basing my life on the the promise of Nirvana, the merging (union) or shedding of one's "unique awareness" (the "I think; therefore, I am," I exist separately). This promise is something I acquired during my Void experience. It's actually more than a promise because I believe it's more of a "reprogramming" of my soul or core being or "awareness."

On the other hand (while in the Void), if I had merged completely with God(?), I would have remained in union with It, for It's tremendous love-presence was beyond compare. Alas, I'm back in this world, partly out of choice. I'm still addicted(?) to my "unique awareness." In the end, the Void had the final say to send me back to this world; I didn't have a map to figure out my way back here, after all.

To this day, even though I have gone through quite a number of misfortunes, I'm still not 300% sure I'm ready to merge or shed my "unique awareness," and believe me, I don't say this lightly. Interesting to say, my "unique awareness" cancelled out God(?)'s love-beyond-compare. My intense love for my separation must be that strong. Then again, perhaps God(?) knew my soul's sincere desire, to begin with, and let me go, but...the Void kept this reprogramming intact for my earthly thought to remember the event, enough to share.

You liked what I have said probably because "you" could sense that I have been speaking from the depths of my being...and the truth of my Void experience.

Well, I'm in California. Even though I'm in my hermit mood, coffee with cake and torte sounds great, doesn't it? I'm not on a diet.

Peace.

Paul


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"You know as well as I do that the DEAD don't stay interested in us living people for very long. Gradually, gradually, they lose hold of the earth...and the ambitions they had...and the pleasures they had...and the things they suffered...and the people they loved. They get weaned away from earth -- that's the way I put it, weaned away. And they stay here (the Void) while the earth part of 'em  burns away, burns out; and all that time they slowly get indifferent to what's goin' on in Grover's Corners.

They're waitin'. They're waitin' for something that they feel is comin'. Something important, and GREAT. Aren't they waitin' for the eternal part in them to come out clear?

And what's left when memory's gone, and your identity, Mrs. Smith?" THORNTON WILDER'S OUR TOWN

I am not sure we are that much apart in many ways.  What comes after, you say you exerienced, I have not.  I think whatever happens it will be beyond words.  I like the way you express yourself.

Peace
mark

[markdohle]

aryannatimothy, on 22 November 2012 - 03:53 AM, said:

Hi Mark,

I can relate to some of your experiences and I too believe that God/Jesus is the one person whom we can always count on, talk to and find answers. We are humans and it is but natural to "feel". Believe it or not, these feelings are one of the most important things that describes us and I believe one of the greatest factors that we own. We cannot fully enjoy life without "feelings", right. Sometimes it is good to bleed because we know we are alive

Thanks for the thoughts.

Thank you for sharing this, it was beautiful.

peace
mark

[braveone2u]

markdohle, on 22 November 2012 - 01:11 PM, said:

I am not sure we are that much apart in many ways.  What comes after, you say you exerienced, I have not.  I think whatever happens it will be beyond words.  I like the way you express yourself.

Peace
mark

What comes after physical life, yes, I have experienced, not just an NDE. I have not, however, experienced Nirvana -- just its (ultra) first stage. Hello Mark. I believe I'm going to need a Gollum-like character to push me to let go of my "unique awareness"; however, I would prefer a gentle and trustworthy Christ-like guide to keep me from turning back, seeing that merging process to the very end. True, in the end, a being must face God(?) alone in order for that being to be one with IT. The way I got it is that the shedding of one's "unique awareness" doesn't happen in an instant. I had time to assess, recoup, and freak out (as in "Let me out of here!"). Again, I can only speak for myself on this since it is the journey of my "unique awareness."

I agree: whatever happens will be beyond our wildest imagination, but apparently, I'm not ready for that ride. Again, what price freedom?

Here's my mantra for the 21st century: "Assess, recoup, and freak out."

Thank you for the compliment.

Peace.

Paul

Edited by braveone2u, 22 November 2012 - 11:12 PM.

[braveone2u]

markdohle, on 17 November 2012 - 12:58 PM, said:

I believe that the greatest longing in the heart is love, or union, and that longing is personal.  Perhaps that is because God is personal since I believe we are made in God's image and likeness....., though in a way the is well beyond anything we can comprehend.  I did once, have a very intense experience of God's love for me, it would have destroyed my body if it lasted for the fraction of a second that I experienced it.

Too bad we can't have coffee and talk LOL....like what you have to say.

peace
mark

Hello Mark,

I was thinking about you the moment I got up this morning: to be specific, I was thinking about this particular post, "I did once, have a very intense experience of God's love for me, it would have destroyed my body if it lasted for the fraction of a second that I experienced it." Did this happen while you're praying, or did it happen during sleep (dreaming)? If praying or meditating, it sounds like you were having kriya, the physical displays or symptoms of the kundalini's movement when releasing psychic and physical tensions.

Next time, ride it all the way. If your mind was able to abort the process and regain your composure, this "very intense experience of God's love" knew when to stop, for I'm sure, this process knew your limitations and was in sync with your mind. At any rate, if it were "God's" doing, wouldn't it be good to see it through, dead or alive?

Peace.

Edited by braveone2u, 24 November 2012 - 08:00 PM.

[euroninja]

markdohle, on 15 November 2012 - 12:15 AM, said:

The hearts longing

Love, the desire for union and also the suffering that flows from this longing, is often spoken of as centered in the heart.   The heart does respond to human emotions in a powerful way, be it from love, hatred, anger or fear.  Often when someone is under great emotional stress, the heart is often felt as a pounding against the rib cage.  However, it is the area of relationships that the heart is meant, when speaking in terms of the heart being broken or wounded and in need of healing.

there came a time when I actually felt like my heart was an abyss of pain and darkness; it felt like an untended, sore, oozing infection.  I felt a great deal of pain in my chest area, a great weight actually in which I could not alleviate in any way.  If I tried to find some surcease it only made the pain worse,

I suppose that one of the ways that people seek to escape this kind of pain is to shut down, but that comes with a heavy price.

Anyone who follows a valid spiritual practice cannot ignore emotions. My robot girlfriend and I had this debate. She used Tony Parsons' teachings too often as an excuse not to deal with her passive aggressive behaviours. I've learned that lesson if you know what I mean. I'm not sure if I loved her. I think it was just a "happening". Touché!

[markdohle]

euroninja, on 27 November 2012 - 09:25 PM, said:

Anyone who follows a valid spiritual practice cannot ignore emotions. My robot girlfriend and I had this debate. She used Tony Parsons' teachings too often as an excuse not to deal with her passive aggressive behaviours. I've learned that lesson if you know what I mean. I'm not sure if I loved her. I think it was just a "happening". Touché!

Thank you, well said, yes I understand what you mean.  Witout emotions and dealing with them we are less than fully human, robotic in fact.

Peace
mark

[euroninja]

I tolerated her new fad but fooling around with another guy is not right.  We don't have an open relationship. That was a week ago she said. That's in the past and it doesn't exist anymore she also said. She's not apologetic. Total robot girl. What if I had caught a disease because of her past mess up? The AIDS virus incubates for up to 10 years!

[markdohle]

euroninja, on 28 November 2012 - 09:53 PM, said:

I tolerated her new fad but fooling around with another guy is not right.  We don't have an open relationship. That was a week ago she said. That's in the past and it doesn't exist anymore she also said. She's not apologetic. Total robot girl. What if I had caught a disease because of her past mess up? The AIDS virus incubates for up to 10 years!

Get checked in six months, also I believe it is harder for a man to get aids from a women than the other way around.  Sorry for your loss.

peace
mark

[euroninja]

Getting tested is irritating but that's reality. Just had my second. That maybe so if you like the typical positions. We were adventurous with our bodies when we were monogamous. Body fluids went both ways. I'm not a selfish lover.

[markdohle]

euroninja, on 29 November 2012 - 01:18 AM, said:

Getting tested is irritating but that's reality. Just had my second. That maybe so if you like the typical positions. We were adventurous with our bodies when we were monogamous. Body fluids went both ways. I'm not a selfish lover.

She will probably regret what she did, not too many unselfish lovers out there ;-)

Peace
mark

[Toadie]

Emotions are chemicals in the brain. The way we act, think and who we are can be created from our up bringing, who we socialise with, natural instincts, what we fear, painful experiences in life or if parts of our brain are over functioning / under functioning / not functioning

[euroninja]

Toadie, on 29 November 2012 - 01:46 PM, said:

Emotions are chemicals in the brain.

We don't even have the cure for my bald head. Life is not simple. I've met many robot scientists.

[braveone2u]

Here's my latest poem:

I SING (by Paul)

Floating in the sea of your voice
Must I bestir a memory
Of sombre repose, wistful choice?
I burst in complete melody

Though eyes betray the blue in you
Whispering hearts are never still
like pizzicato strings in two
With no illusion of free will

Wanting, needing, yearning, I cry
The lives I lead, but no one knows
You entertain my every sigh
Above and below, so it goes

Are we fools? you softly ask
Do distant fancies all come true?
Hiding behind a blackened mask
I sing, "I will never leave you"

[markdohle]

braveone2u, on 24 December 2012 - 08:17 PM, said:

Here's my latest poem:

I SING (by Paul)

Floating in the sea of your voice
Must I bestir a memory
Of sombre repose, wistful choice?
I burst in complete melody

Though eyes betray the blue in you
Whispering hearts are never still
like pizzicato strings in two
With no illusion of free will

Wanting, needing, yearning, I cry
The lives I lead, but no one knows
You entertain my every sigh
Above and below, so it goes

Are we fools? you softly ask
Do distant fancies all come true?
Hiding behind a blackened mask
I sing, "I will never leave you"

Well said, deep my friend.  Speaks of our longings, the deepest ones.

peace
mark