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The Ancient Alien Theory Is True


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#2326    seeder

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 08:34 PM

View Postnopeda, on 19 December 2012 - 08:26 PM, said:

No. I'm going by pics that came up in a Google Image search.

ah a 'real' investigator you are  then?

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 08:39 PM

View Postnopeda, on 19 December 2012 - 08:22 PM, said:

Having spoken language sets humans apart from all other animals, and having written language does so even more.

well stating the obvious never impresses me. Its a bit like saying its hard to see when there's no light!

But so what?

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 08:46 PM

View Postnopeda, on 19 December 2012 - 08:27 PM, said:

The vast majority of wild animals never reach maturity. Even the majority of higher animals like elephants and lions. Thinking it's all a garden of Eden for wildlife is naive at "best".

Ah naive... Im so sorry I should have thought of that myself. But, you see, natures rules are - survival of the fittest...any  'mature' beast is past their 'prime',  and of course you can agree to this - because its flipping obvious.. and  a garden of eden is symbology for a perfect life, where food is plenty, and life is great, and you are free... especially from the bonds that bind clever humans!"

Just like all wild things of course

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 09:55 PM

View Postzoser, on 19 December 2012 - 05:31 PM, said:

I thought that was a given; proven by microscopic analysis?

The results strongly indicate that heat was used to produce the surface, which raises several questions. Even if a layer of a ceramic paste was applied, how was the whole heated to the requisite temperatures without cracking the limestone? It tends to shatter at these sorts of heats.

How else is that effect achieved across such a large scale of artefacts?  It's either the result of intense burning, or melting by some unknown chemical.  In both cases an esoteric explanation is needed.

Taking the accounts of a number of people into consideration, I'd say the chemical method I mentioned - based on a very corrosive liquid made from herbal acids - is a more likely method. But they will need to do a chemical analysis of the outer layer of the stones, of that what's generally called 'patina'.

A microscopic analysis won't be enough.

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 09:57 PM

View Postnopeda, on 19 December 2012 - 08:19 PM, said:

How do you want people to think they did that, do you have any idea?

I posted about that in the "Nature" forum. I will try to find a link to that post.


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Here it is :

http://www.unexplain...15#entry4460611


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Posted 19 December 2012 - 10:10 PM

View PostAbramelin, on 19 December 2012 - 09:57 PM, said:

I posted about that in the "Nature" forum. I will try to find a link to that post.


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Here it is :

http://www.unexplain...15#entry4460611


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In light of our recent posts....zozer and nopeda are silenced.  Thats a cool thing really. I observed they both were active tonight reading this thread... yet neither has replied in the face of such obvious postings....


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Edited by seeder, 19 December 2012 - 10:13 PM.

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"The tragedy of life is not that it ends so soon, but that we wait so long to begin it"

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 10:23 PM

View PostAbramelin, on 19 December 2012 - 09:55 PM, said:

Taking the accounts of a number of people into consideration, I'd say the chemical method I mentioned - based on a very corrosive liquid made from herbal acids - is a more likely method. But they will need to do a chemical analysis of the outer layer of the stones, of that what's generally called 'patina'.

A microscopic analysis won't be enough.

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Ah, I see: an electron microscopical analysis:

http://www.unexplain...80#entry4587094

The last time I worked with an expensive toy like that was back in 1979, and then we could only analyze what elements were present in some sample, but not compounds


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Posted 19 December 2012 - 10:45 PM

could the rocks that appear to be vitrified have been vitrified before being put into place on the wall?
Maybe the locals found a source of naturally (or artificially) vitrified rock and used it in heir consteuction?

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 12:14 AM

My question is why wouldnt the aliens leave some kind of calling card, so there would be no doubt in peoples minds that they were here like something not even the most extreme sceptic could deny as bieng alien

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 12:21 AM

View PostR4z3rsPar4d0x, on 20 December 2012 - 12:14 AM, said:

My question is why wouldnt the aliens leave some kind of calling card, so there would be no doubt in peoples minds that they were here like something not even the most extreme sceptic could deny as bieng alien
It's because "they" cover it up, "they've" been covering it up since Plato. "They're" behind it all.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 12:24 AM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 20 December 2012 - 12:21 AM, said:

It's because "they" cover it up, "they've" been covering it up since Plato. "They're" behind it all.
LOL who's "they" though?

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 12:42 AM

View PostR4z3rsPar4d0x, on 20 December 2012 - 12:24 AM, said:

LOL who's "they" though?

Duh.. Mainstream establishment historians and archaeologists who are trying to keep the "TRUTH" covered up. But the question is WHY??!! What don't they want us to know!!!!????

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 01:31 AM

View PostR4z3rsPar4d0x, on 20 December 2012 - 12:24 AM, said:

LOL who's "they" though?
who don't you like and would like to malign as being machiavellian and sinister?

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 05:44 AM

I see, it seems like it sure would be a hassle to cover it all up though, eventually something would leek. But then again when people do come onto the scene saying theyve seen things there usually labeled as crazy and written off

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 08:49 AM

View PostR4z3rsPar4d0x, on 20 December 2012 - 12:14 AM, said:

My question is why wouldnt the aliens leave some kind of calling card, so there would be no doubt in peoples minds that they were here like something not even the most extreme sceptic could deny as bieng alien

The existence of architecture impossible to replicate for a lot of people is evidence enough.  If you think it can be replicated show me where and how.  That's the challenge for the skeptics.  That's the main foundation upon which the AA documentaries, films and books stand.  It's a pretty good one because it hasn't been defeated yet.  Look no further than this thread as proof of that.

If it's not enough for you then surely you have to contribute in the investigation that's taking place to fight your corner?

Now we have vitrified rock being discussed; something tangible caused this; as yet totally unexplained.  Not seen on the walls that we know for definitely were made by the Inca; yet seen all over the country where there is precision architecture.

Also we have experts believing that the stones were somehow made soft at the time of construction (see post 2317).  Pre-formed metal clamps being inserted between blocks in a clay like state to make sure that they set in position not to add mechanical strength to the construction.  

Totally contrary to our previous idea that the metal for the clamps was poured in a molten state.  One of the proof's being that there is no line across the clamps where the molten metal would have run between the gaps.

The blocks appear far too large and the clamps would fulfill no other purpose.  Once again conventional thinking turned upside down.  How were the blocks softened?  It's one thing for a chemical to soften the surface of a block, but quite another to allow a metal clamp to be inserted as if it were clay.

The mystery only deepens.

Edited by zoser, 20 December 2012 - 09:00 AM.

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