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#2416    zoser

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 06:09 PM

View PostLRW, on 20 December 2012 - 06:01 PM, said:

Its all well and good theorising how so called "ancient man" built the "Great Pyramid" but until those theories are actually proven through genuine replication and duplication of the original models with the methods being proposed by the theorists, then all those theorists have is just a theory and a fanciful one at that.

Big theories require big evidence, and unfortunately for the mainstream "Egyptologists" theory, it lacks substance.

Its very easy to say some egotistical maniac called "Khufu" subjugated thousands of men with ramps and copper chisels to build a gigantic monument to him as a tomb, the theory has no substance given the fact that the sarcophagus within the great pyramid contains no mummified remains or any engravings that would stand out to support a theory that it was a burial coffin for an egotistical maniac the so called "Khufu" who after all his so called exploits of subjugating thousands of men with copper tools and ramps, decided his sarcophagus would look bland and have no engravings, hardly a fitting tribute for an egotistical maniac who subjugated thousands according to the theory.   

The sarcophagus alludes to something else entirely, it alludes to being a place for ritual and ceremonial spiritual endeavours that are related to knowledge and understanding of the cosmos. To say that the "Great Pyramid" was designed as a tomb for an egotistical maniac, would be an insult to its designers and constructors who envisioned something far more meaningful and important than just a tomb.

That looks fake by the way, as if someone tried to modify it or graffiti it.  It is a known fact that plundering, bribery, and other criminal acts were rampant during the 1800's, it was not exactly a time of reputable characters.  

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That graffiti has for a long time now been suspected to be a forgery.  For a start it's the only example of any writing or artwork in the pyramid and it was discovered by Howard Vyse who was a highly ambitious treasure seeking vandal with little integrity.

Bearing in mind the fact that we associate the Egyptians with prolific artwork describing in high detail their culture, religion and leadership does it make sense that there is absolutely nothing (genuine) inside the GP?

To some it makes absolutely perfect sense.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 06:17 PM

View PostLRW, on 20 December 2012 - 06:01 PM, said:

Its all well and good theorising how so called "ancient man" built the "Great Pyramid"

but until those theories are actually proven through genuine replication and duplication of the original models with the methods being proposed by the theorists, then all those theorists have is just a theory and a fanciful one at that.

Big theories require big evidence, and unfortunately for the mainstream "Egyptologists theory", it lacks substance.

Its very easy to say some egotistical maniac called "Khufu" subjugated thousands of men with ramps and copper chisels to build a gigantic monument to him as a tomb, the theory has no substance given the fact that the sarcophagus within the great pyramid contains no mummified remains or any engravings that would stand out to support a theory that it was a burial coffin for an egotistical maniac the so called "Khufu" who after all his so called exploits of subjugating thousands of men with copper tools and ramps, decided his sarcophagus would look bland and have no engravings, hardly a fitting tribute for an egotistical maniac who subjugated thousands according to the theory.   

The sarcophagus alludes to something else entirely, it alludes to being a place for ritual and ceremonial spiritual endeavours that are related to knowledge and understanding of the cosmos. To say that the "Great Pyramid" was designed as a tomb for an egotistical maniac, would be an insult to its designers and constructors who envisioned something far more meaningful and important than just a tomb.

That looks fake by the way, as if someone tried to modify it or graffiti it.  It is a known fact that plundering, bribery, and other criminal acts were rampant during the 1800's, it was not exactly a time of reputable characters.  


eh? 'so called' ancient man ??

well what will you call a man from 3-4000 years ago? Modern?

And Its not a theory, its  a fact, and with lots of evidence.

You say "Big theories require big evidence". Errm, what big theory are you on about? The alien one? Coz yes we need the facts, which dont exist... but man made facts do...

But what was the point you was making?

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 06:30 PM

Ah yes, elongated skulls, a feature seen in north africa and south america, where pyramid building excerises were widespread and rampant.

Coincidence they say.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 06:32 PM

View PostLRW, on 20 December 2012 - 06:01 PM, said:

Its all well and good theorising how so called "ancient man" built the "Great Pyramid" but until those theories are actually proven through genuine replication and duplication of the original models with the methods being proposed by the theorists, then all those theorists have is just a theory and a fanciful one at that.

Big theories require big evidence, and unfortunately for the mainstream "Egyptologists theory", it lacks substance.

Its very easy to say some egotistical maniac called "Khufu" subjugated thousands of men with ramps and copper chisels to build a gigantic monument to him as a tomb, the theory has no substance given the fact that the sarcophagus within the great pyramid contains no mummified remains or any engravings that would stand out to support a theory that it was a burial coffin for an egotistical maniac the so called "Khufu" who after all his so called exploits of subjugating thousands of men with copper tools and ramps, decided his sarcophagus would look bland and have no engravings, hardly a fitting tribute for an egotistical maniac who subjugated thousands according to the theory.   

The sarcophagus alludes to something else entirely, it alludes to being a place for ritual and ceremonial spiritual endeavours that are related to knowledge and understanding of the cosmos. To say that the "Great Pyramid" was designed as a tomb for an egotistical maniac, would be an insult to its designers and constructors who envisioned something far more meaningful and important than just a tomb.

That looks fake by the way, as if someone tried to modify it or graffiti it.  It is a known fact that plundering, bribery, and other criminal acts were rampant during the 1800's, it was not exactly a time of reputable characters.  

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The sarcophagus alludes to something else entirely, it alludes to being a place for ritual and ceremonial spiritual endeavours that are related to knowledge and understanding of the cosmos. To say that the "Great Pyramid" was designed as a tomb for an egotistical maniac, would be an insult to its designers and constructors who envisioned something far more meaningful and important than just a tomb.

Tomb is not the purpose of the great pyramid for sure. It and the sphinx were the main part of the ancient mystery schools and I do not dismiss any theories of what it's actual purpose was.  I get the feeling it was designed as some kind of a part of a functioning power source but exactly what kind,  real technology or spiritual has not really been proven.  Later pyramids were copies and may have been used as tombs of egotistical pharohs but the original I feel was the real thing whatever that may be.

I see the sarcophagus as a spiritual or maybe even physical regenerative aid used during religious ceremonies.   I don't buy the theory that it held a body that was stolen since too many writings talk of initiations etc of the death and burial and resurrection. I believe that it represents power, rejuvenation, wisdom of the gods and was even considered to be some sort of stargate not ever meant to be a real burial tomb.


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Posted 20 December 2012 - 06:37 PM

Yes indeed.  Here is a little more.  Brien claims to have found definite correlation between precision architecture sites and nearby cemetaries where elongated skulls have been found.






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Posted 20 December 2012 - 06:38 PM

View PostLRW, on 20 December 2012 - 06:30 PM, said:

Ah yes, elongated skulls, a feature seen in north africa and south america, where pyramid building excerises were widespread and rampant.

Coincidence they say.


am I the only one who hasnt a clue what youre posts are about?

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 06:41 PM

View Postzoser, on 20 December 2012 - 06:37 PM, said:

Yes indeed.  Here is a little more.  Brien claims to have found definite correlation between precision architecture sites and nearby cemetaries where elongated skulls have been found.


you said it yourself...  "Brien claims to have found"....

well I just claimed the moon is mine!

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 06:45 PM

Thats the skeptics evidence?  

A failed smaller scale pyramid attempt finished not by the proposed tools described in the theory, but by modern means, they resorted to modern technology to complete that abomination. Don't forget that the real "Great Pyramid" has a very advanced interior, the nippon attempt does not.

They even fail with small scale attempts.
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Ramps, copper chisels etc the so called evidence, for all anyone knows, those tools might have been used to construct the inferior smaller pyramids, after all, humans have a habit of imitation.

Imitation is the best form of flattery so they say.

3 inferior small pyramids admidst 3 superior larger ones, hmm.
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Posted 20 December 2012 - 06:54 PM

View Postzoser, on 20 December 2012 - 06:09 PM, said:

That graffiti has for a long time now been suspected to be a forgery.  For a start it's the only example of any writing or artwork in the pyramid and it was discovered by Howard Vyse who was a highly ambitious treasure seeking vandal with little integrity.

Bearing in mind the fact that we associate the Egyptians with prolific artwork describing in high detail their culture, religion and leadership does it make sense that there is absolutely nothing (genuine) inside the GP?

To some it makes absolutely perfect sense.

You really needed to pay more attention to kmt's posts on the subject over in the ancient mysteries forum, zoser. Too wit:

The graffito in question is written using a form of hieroglyph that Vyse couldn't possibly know about because it wasn't translated yet.

Primarily only sitchin has made this claim about it and since the time of that writing, other examples have been discovered within the chamber, some wrapping around blocks and in crevices between them where a forger couldn't have reached. Hancock even retracted his statements quoting sitchin after viewing these, though he's since recanted after finding some way to wiggle out of it.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 07:00 PM

View Postzoser, on 20 December 2012 - 08:49 AM, said:

Now we have vitrified rock being discussed; something tangible caused this; as yet totally unexplained.  Not seen on the walls that we know for definitely were made by the Inca; yet seen all over the country where there is precision architecture.

Reproducible results. We have to first verify that this is indeed vitrification, then verify that the same is in fact present and responsible for the effect in all the varied sites being shown.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 07:06 PM

View PostOniomancer, on 20 December 2012 - 06:54 PM, said:

You really needed to pay more attention to kmt's posts on the subject over in the ancient mysteries forum, zoser. Too wit:

The graffito in question is written using a form of hieroglyph that Vyse couldn't possibly know about because it wasn't translated yet.

Primarily only sitchin has made this claim about it and since the time of that writing, other examples have been discovered within the chamber, some wrapping around blocks and in crevices between them where a forger couldn't have reached. Hancock even retracted his statements quoting sitchin after viewing these, though he's since recanted after finding some way to wiggle out of it.

KMT is just a devotee of the old school.  You won't get any new information from him.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 07:08 PM

View PostOniomancer, on 20 December 2012 - 07:00 PM, said:

Reproducible results. We have to first verify that this is indeed vitrification, then verify that the same is in fact present and responsible for the effect in all the varied sites being shown.

Try and reproduce it then.  There's the challenge.  

The Inca clearly couldn't reproduce it; they built walls that were far inferior.  Don't let me stop you from trying though.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 07:17 PM

View Postzoser, on 20 December 2012 - 07:06 PM, said:

KMT is just a devotee of the old school.  You won't get any new information from him.

http://en.wikipedia....peal_to_novelty

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 07:19 PM

View Postzoser, on 20 December 2012 - 07:08 PM, said:

Try and reproduce it then.  There's the challenge.  

The Inca clearly couldn't reproduce it; they built walls that were far inferior.  Don't let me stop you from trying though.

I meant the the test results need to be reproduced, where they've actually been done in the first place.

I believe a second experimenter has duplicated Protzen's technique though.

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Posted 20 December 2012 - 07:24 PM

a diversion tactic from Zoser, he was asked, by me...to convince me with his proofs... of which there are none... except loonytunes youtube vids...

thats why he hasnt responded to my posts

he can prove nothing except he is obsessive

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