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#3691    Abramelin

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 02:28 PM

View PostMedium Brown, on 31 December 2012 - 02:07 PM, said:

That video is even longer than a sword and sandals saga.
I think if I attempted to watch that I would shatter my monthly contract for my I-Pad in half.
Graham Hancock dosn't strike me as a guy who dosn't do much assuming.
A no-nonsense approach and an inability to over-dramatise things can be very persuasive.
If I decide to break the bank you'll be the first one to know I have changed my mind.
Tbh if they found evidence of this "Great" flood if would be a great discovery.
These geologists are always plodding about with their hammer and chisel.
One of these days after constant study of rock layers they will found their proof.
I'm on tenterhooks till then.

I have started a thread (well, someone else did, but I added 80 perscent of the posts) about Doggerland, lol.

That area - the present North Sea - was dry land up to 6150 BCE and got flooded by a tsunami lasting for up to 2 days.

If there was any people who would have created a flood legend, it was the people of Doggerland. Just imagine the 2004 tsunami lasting for days...and hitting a flat country the size of California with only one reasonably large hill: the present Doggersbank, with waves of 20 meters (60 feet) high.

http://www.unexplain...d

To give you a start, I wrote a summary:

http://www.unexplain...65#entry4356314

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Edited by Abramelin, 31 December 2012 - 02:38 PM.


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Posted 31 December 2012 - 02:28 PM

I think I'd rather eat liver than watch a three hour Debunking video, full, I have no doubt, of people who take things, and not least themselves, way too seriously.

Life is a hideous business, and from the background behind what we know of it peer daemoniacal hints of truth which make it sometimes a thousandfold more hideous.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 02:29 PM

View PostMedium Brown, on 31 December 2012 - 02:07 PM, said:

That video is even longer than a sword and sandals saga.


Check YouTube: the documentary is also available in (12?) parts.


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Posted 31 December 2012 - 02:31 PM

View Post747400, on 31 December 2012 - 02:28 PM, said:

I think I'd rather eat liver than watch a three hour Debunking video, full, I have no doubt, of people who take things, and not least themselves, way too seriously.

It's mainly about people (Hancock for one) not doing enough research, assuming too much, and adding lots of fantasy.

It's an interesting video, and worth watching.

Well, unless you don't care about any dreams being shattered, that is..

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Edited by Abramelin, 31 December 2012 - 02:32 PM.


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Posted 31 December 2012 - 02:47 PM

View PostJason Sands, on 31 December 2012 - 10:48 AM, said:

I own the first three seasons of Ancient Aliens on DVD and intend to buy the fourth as well.

Don't know if it's true or not, but it is indeed extremely interesting!

This has got to be my favorite episode. I believe I've watched this one more times than any of the other episodes and I still find it extremely fascinating

The subject is very interesting. Personally, I hope advanced UFO aliens are not visiting this planet. It's a scary concept. It was said that once advanced UFO aliens make their presence openly known human religious and social structures will break down. Somehow that is not a comforting thought so I hope it is all a hoax

ANCIENT ENGINEERS

The part where they take you to the stone quarry is especially intriguing. It's one thing to cut a retangle into a rock using some kind of laser tool and quite another to cut behind it perfectly and remove the rectangle stone leaving an accurately cut surface as smooth as a bathroom mirror. I can't wrap my mind around how it was done. I mean, I can't even bloody envision it! A real mind 'French'!

Watched it all.  Excellent documentary and well supported by many specialists some of whom with PHD qualifications.

The first 10 minutes of this covers the enigma of Ollantaytambo and 'The Wall of the Living Rock as was discussed here a few posts back.

Nice post; welcome to the forum.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 02:50 PM

View PostOniomancer, on 30 December 2012 - 04:12 PM, said:

Once again, you have to prove it before I have to explain it, as BMK pointed out, and I still don't believe that a normal explanation has been conclusively ruled out.



Do you have a reading comprehension problem? It would explain a lot.

I very carefully Pointed out that it is clearly not vitrified. Do you even know what that word means? It means glassified. De-crystalized. If the core was vitrified, it would be covered with an opaque amorphous layer of something like obsidian. The crystal structure of the rock underneath, which at that size would take weeks or months if not years to form, would not be visible. It is vanishingly unlikely that any layer would be transparent. This is something to note about the blocks of Peru. All of this so-called "vitrification" appears to be the same color as regular andesite, except in a few spots that are obviously blackened. I would be interested to know if it would be possible to observe the surface mineral structure of the rock with a hand lens.
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Posted 31 December 2012 - 02:53 PM

View Postbmk1245, on 31 December 2012 - 02:50 PM, said:

Zoser, as usual, on the mode "Blah blah blah, can't hear you, can't see you!" Logic and reason, apparently, meaningless for him.

Not vitrified eh?

Oh yes it is.  I wonder who really is holding their hands over their ears (and eyes).

See here:

http://blog.world-my...stiges-of-peru/

Shatters the fairy tale mainstream theories in a single stroke.

Makes my job much easier I suppose.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 02:55 PM

View PostJason Sands, on 31 December 2012 - 10:48 AM, said:

I own the first three seasons of Ancient Aliens on DVD and intend to buy the fourth as well.

Don't know if it's true or not, but it is indeed extremely interesting!

This has got to be my favorite episode. I believe I've watched this one more times than any of the other episodes and I still find it extremely fascinating

The subject is very interesting. Personally, I hope advanced UFO aliens are not visiting this planet. It's a scary concept. It was said that once advanced UFO aliens make their presence openly known human religious and social structures will break down. Somehow that is not a comforting thought so I hope it is all a hoax

ANCIENT ENGINEERS



The part where they take you to the stone quarry is especially intriguing. It's one thing to cut a retangle into a rock using some kind of laser tool and quite another to cut behind it perfectly and remove the rectangle stone leaving an accurately cut surface as smooth as a bathroom mirror. I can't wrap my mind around how it was done. I mean, I can't even bloody envision it! A real mind 'French'!

You will like this entry in my blog too:

http://www.unexplain...showentry=26585


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Posted 31 December 2012 - 02:56 PM

View Postzoser, on 31 December 2012 - 02:53 PM, said:

Not vitrified eh?

Oh yes it is.  I wonder who really is holding their hands over their ears (and eyes).

See here:

http://blog.world-my...stiges-of-peru/

Shatters the fairy tale mainstream theories in a single stroke.

Makes my job much easier I suppose.

:whistle:

What I noticed is that you never gave a real comment (if you even did) on what that specialist had to say about the 'cone heads'.

You've evaded it, while I have done my best to give you a reply to every one of your posts.

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Edited by Abramelin, 31 December 2012 - 03:09 PM.


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Posted 31 December 2012 - 02:59 PM

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 03:13 PM

View PostAbramelin, on 31 December 2012 - 02:56 PM, said:

What I noticed is that you never gave a real comment (if you even did) on what that specialist had to say about the 'cone heads'.

What I've noticed is that Mr O is busy denying the vitrification phenomena while Abe accepts it but attributes it to acid brews rather than heat.

Maybe the two of you need to get together and agree a common hypothesis?

In answer to your question:

Specialists?  No carbon dating or DNA has been done on them.  So who is a specialist?  Please tell me about them and from what authority they speak.

The only specialist on the 'Cone Head' is Foerster because he is researching full time and has commissioned tests.  He is looking at all the samples.  Is anyone else, or are your 'specialists' just hypothesising from a distance without 'hands on' information?

Any way if I recall the issue was on inter-breeding causing genetic aberrations.  Correct me if I'm wrong.

Let me ask you this:

Why is there no precedent for this over the last 5000 years?  Plenty of tribes and societies have lived undisturbed in so called isolation yet we see nothing of the sort.  

Other examples are:

1) Pre-dynastic Egypt
2) Malta.
3) Omsk Russia.

See my earlier post:

http://www.unexplain...1

These do show very enigmatic skulls but nothing like the cone heads.

So why in Paracas?  What evidence is there of intense inter-breeding there compared to anywhere else in ancient time?

What about the remote island communities?  

Again it's all so easily refuted Abe.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 03:14 PM

View Postseeder, on 31 December 2012 - 02:59 PM, said:


And that's all Zoser had to offer as proof aliens were present.

We all rack our brains to come up with something not from born in la-la-land, think Occam's Razor - and all Zoser does is quote from the same sites over and over again to prove his point.

I find that kind of annoying: I do not just gobble up what I read, I think about it, and ... give my own idea about it, and then I combine with what I know, experienced or read elsewhere.


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Posted 31 December 2012 - 03:28 PM

View Post747400, on 30 December 2012 - 03:03 PM, said:

Thanks to this thread, I've learned more about Congenital hydrocephalus than I ever wanted to know.

But then you also know the cure.


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Posted 31 December 2012 - 03:32 PM

View Postzoser, on 30 December 2012 - 06:04 PM, said:

Refutation:

Vitrification is the result of intense heat.  It is a side effect of the cutting method.  Nothing more.

Inca artefacts show no sign of vitrification.  Only precision cut artefacts show it.

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No vitrification has ever been found on these artefacts.  It's very very easy to refute your theory.  You don't take note of all of the evidence.

No disrepect intended.

These are common buildings. Like I have told you now a dozen times before, the Incas built like we do: we create master pieces when we build a cathedral or some other special building, and then we use bricks and cement and concrete for common houses.

They were humans,just like we are now.


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Posted 31 December 2012 - 03:41 PM

Zoser, I'd like to read your response to this post of mine:

View PostAbramelin, on 30 December 2012 - 12:51 PM, said:

Congenital hydrocephalus may happen because of:

* Bleeding in the fetus before birth.
* Certain infections in the mother, such as toxoplasmosis or syphilis.
* Other birth defects, like spina bifida.
* A genetic defect.


http://www.webmd.com...-topic-overview



How much does it happen in a normal population? Not that often. But in an isolated population where the chance at inbreeding is much higher, or intentional like many ruling families did, it will also show up much more.

OK, now suppose this inbreeding was intentional amongst leaders of certain tribes in Peru and Bolivia (and elsewhere), then forms of hydrocephalus may have been considered to be a sign of 'royalty' and thus became something other and healthy members of the tribe wanted for their children.

So then you get two types of elongated skulls: the very large ones who were the result of a treatment of hydrocephalus using binding, and the smaller ones (like in your post with the African examples) that resulted from binding healthy skulls.




Genetics of human hydrocephalus

Abstract

Human hydrocephalus is a common medical condition that is characterized by abnormalities in the flow or resorption of cerebrospinal fluid (CSF), resulting in ventricular dilatation. Human hydrocephalus can be classified into two clinical forms, congenital and acquired. Hydrocephalus is one of the complex and multifactorial neurological disorders.

A growing body of evidence indicates that genetic factors play a major role in the pathogenesis of hydrocephalus.


http://www.ncbi.nlm....les/PMC1705504/