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#4981    seeder

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 10:33 PM

View PostAbramelin, on 15 January 2013 - 10:24 PM, said:

He challenges my intelligence, he forces me to delve deeper (like I said before).

And that's a good thing.

I don't give up that easily.

Intelligence can also mean recognizance of  something clearly wrong and not bothering to try prove it otherwise.

Its not a question of delving deeper, thats called entering someones delusions, and trying to find a way out of it.

Man built it. No rocks were softened with plant juice. There were no aliens.  Its not a mystery, convo over!!

Edited by seeder, 15 January 2013 - 10:49 PM.

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 10:34 PM

View Postpsyche101, on 15 January 2013 - 10:28 PM, said:

That is good, it just seem the same question is being asked over and again. I did not figure that too much of a challenge to be honest.

Another one of my "great characteristics" is that i am also stubborn as a mule.


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Posted 15 January 2013 - 10:39 PM

View PostHarte, on 15 January 2013 - 10:31 PM, said:

Easily?

Anyone that has read all the crazy posts in this thread has not done so easily.

People who have wasted their time talking to Zoser about this have not done so easily.

I'm giving up on this ultra boring and repetitive thread, but I don't do so easily.  The easy way would have been to have left Zoser on my ignore list.

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I won't give up.

And notwithstanding I had to repeat what I had posted earlier many times, I don't believe I wasted my time here.

I learned,


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Posted 15 January 2013 - 10:39 PM

View PostHarte, on 15 January 2013 - 10:31 PM, said:

Easily?

Anyone that has read all the crazy posts in this thread has not done so easily.

People who have wasted their time talking to Zoser about this have not done so easily.

I'm giving up on this ultra boring and repetitive thread, but I don't do so easily.  The easy way would have been to have left Zoser on my ignore list.

Harte

Its not a question of giving up. I didn't 'give up' when I chose to stop posting...for me it was the realization that you're dealing with one of those forum oddbods who is deaf and blind to reason, evidence and facts, and believes only in semi fictional tv shows saying aliens did it.

People like that may eventually say 'god made me do it, he left messages in the cracks inbetween paving stones'

Edited by seeder, 15 January 2013 - 10:51 PM.

The England team visited an orphanage in Brazil today. “It’s heartbreaking to see their sad little faces with no hope” .....said Jose, age 6.
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Posted 15 January 2013 - 10:41 PM

View PostAbramelin, on 15 January 2013 - 10:39 PM, said:

I won't give up.

And notwithstanding I had to repeat what I had posted earlier many times, I don't believe I wasted my time here.

I learned,

You aren't the only one to have learned, I appreciate what you've contributed and have learned a lot myself. :tu:

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 10:47 PM

View PostSlave2Fate, on 15 January 2013 - 10:41 PM, said:

You aren't the only one to have learned, I appreciate what you've contributed and have learned a lot myself. :tu:

And isn't that what we are all here for, to learn?


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Posted 15 January 2013 - 10:52 PM

View PostHarte, on 15 January 2013 - 10:31 PM, said:

Easily?

Anyone that has read all the crazy posts in this thread has not done so easily.

People who have wasted their time talking to Zoser about this have not done so easily.

I'm giving up on this ultra boring and repetitive thread, but I don't do so easily.  The easy way would have been to have left Zoser on my ignore list.

Harte


I agree there has been extreme depth, great information, and every possibly question answered, no matter how credulous, not matter how basic, no matter how plain stupid. Each and every single question about rocks has been answered in depth, and with brilliant precision, in fact the sort of precision Zoser talks about with his rocks.

However, I think the last 50 or so pages has been the same question. It has been answered, explained, and exampled, yet the same stupid line shows up again, and this detailed and extensive reason is described as "unreasonable". I think I should leave the thread too, my blood pressure is not helped by seeing Zoser spew pure garbage such as:

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Your argument lacks reason, and the evidence is against you.

Seriously, that is nothing short of rude, arrogant and with all the pages of information for his credulous and rather inane questions, ungrateful. You had the right idea all along. I appreciate posters like Abe and Oniomancer. I learn much from their posting and genuinely like the manner in which they post, it is nothing short of a pleasure to read, I would hate to see them one day move on because the people whom they help do not appreciate it. I doubt these guys even know I read the thread, mostly I just read and nod silently, and am impressed.

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 11:00 PM

View PostAbramelin, on 15 January 2013 - 10:47 PM, said:

And isn't that what we are all here for, to learn?

Yes indeed we are. That is my problem here ;)

One simply refuses to. The information, the tools, everything is right there placed by your good self, and they are being left to the elements.

In any case, I would like to take this opportunity to say thanks for the info. As mentioned, I have read and learned much in silence. I do not get much of an opportunity to let you know your efforts are appreciated like that. It annoys me to see you recieve grief, as opposed to thanks.

Edited by psyche101, 15 January 2013 - 11:01 PM.

Things are what they are. - Me Reality can't be debunked. That's the beauty of it. - Capeo 'If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.' - Sir Isaac Newton. "Let me repeat the lesson learned from the Sturrock scientific review panel: Pack up your old data and forget it. Ufology needs new data, new cases, new rigorous and scientific methodologies if it hopes ever to get out of its pit." Ed Stewart. Youtube is the last refuge of the ignorant and is more often used for disinformation than genuine research.  There is a REASON for PEER REVIEW... - Chrlzs. Nothing is inexplicable, just unexplained. - Sir Wearer of Hats.


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Posted 15 January 2013 - 11:02 PM

View Postpsyche101, on 15 January 2013 - 10:52 PM, said:

I agree there has been extreme depth, great information, and every possibly question answered, no matter how credulous, not matter how basic, no matter how plain stupid. Each and every single question about rocks has been answered in depth, and with brilliant precision, in fact the sort of precision Zoser talks about with his rocks.

However, I think the last 50 or so pages has been the same question. It has been answered, explained, and exampled, yet the same stupid line shows up again, and this detailed and extensive reason is described as "unreasonable". I think I should leave the thread too, my blood pressure is not helped by seeing Zoser spew pure garbage such as:



Seriously, that is nothing short of rude, arrogant and with all the pages of information for his credulous and rather inane questions, ungrateful. You had the right idea all along. I appreciate posters like Abe and Oniomancer. I learn much from their posting and genuinely like the manner in which they post, it is nothing short of a pleasure to read, I would hate to see them one day move on because the people whom they help do not appreciate it. I doubt these guys even know I read the thread, mostly I just read and nod silently, and am impressed.

well said Psyche,  as usual. :tu:

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 11:21 PM

View Postzoser, on 15 January 2013 - 09:08 PM, said:

One church.  This feature is all over the Peru.  It's not an economic problem Abe.  It's a technological one.

If we extrapolate one culture based on others (including those in the same region of the world) it's entirely possible that the the secret of working the stones in such a way were a trade secret of a particular caste.

View Postzoser, on 15 January 2013 - 09:58 PM, said:

2) There is no logistical or banal reason why they did adobe rough construction as opposed to precision megalithic or cuboid.
The reason is that they couldn't. Lost technology is the answer.

And if it's a caste based technique, then something like a plague that nobbled the society could have crippled the caste. Or if there was an insurrection, the King could have ordered all the upstart masons put to death and stuff their amazing stoneworking skills, alternatively it was a sort of tribal think - people from the north tribe were the fishermen, the people from the south tribe were the wallbuilders etc etc, and something happened to nobble the south tribe - war, plague, deciding they were more important then anyone else and thus were put in their place via having certain heads put on pikes ...

Edited by Wearer of Hats, 15 January 2013 - 11:22 PM.


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Posted 15 January 2013 - 11:26 PM

View Postpsyche101, on 15 January 2013 - 11:00 PM, said:

In any case, I would like to take this opportunity to say thanks for the info. As mentioned, I have read and learned much in silence.

You don't seem so silent in the forum.  This thread is just not worth the time it takes to argue.

I said I was giving up and I am.  But not on reading it, just on responding to the ridiculous claims made ad nauseum.

View Postpsyche101, on 15 January 2013 - 11:00 PM, said:

I do not get much of an opportunity to let you know your efforts are appreciated like that.
Your posts are also greatly appreciated.  I remember when this forum was rife with Zosers.  Sometimes I felt like I was the only one fighting.  But of course I wasn't.  We were just outnumbered.  I'm sure you remember times like that here as well.

As far as learning, I don't think I've learned much.  I don't believe anyone, including Davidovits, can dissolve a stone and then reconstitute it back into the original stone, or into stone indistiguishable from natural stone.  And melting not only won't work, it doesn't even make sense.

I will say the vids of Protzen at work were new to me (though I'd read some of his stuff on Heiser's website.)  I certainly appreciate those.

I can also appreciate the effort required to respond here the way many others have.  I still think it's a waste of time, though, since the point always seems to be to bring Zoser around to the real world and that (it seems) is just not gonna happen.

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Posted 15 January 2013 - 11:47 PM

View Postpsyche101, on 15 January 2013 - 11:00 PM, said:

Yes indeed we are. That is my problem here ;)

One simply refuses to. The information, the tools, everything is right there placed by your good self, and they are being left to the elements.

In any case, I would like to take this opportunity to say thanks for the info. As mentioned, I have read and learned much in silence. I do not get much of an opportunity to let you know your efforts are appreciated like that. It annoys me to see you recieve grief, as opposed to thanks.

No, I don't think anyone here refuses to learn, but some refuse to admit they do.

I admit I do, and you admit you do, and many admit they do, And in fact, all of us learn here.

We learn from each other. That is why we are the present dominant species on this rock

And you know what? I never expect thanks for what I post. No one should.

But thanks anyway .


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Posted 16 January 2013 - 12:03 AM

View PostAlphamale06, on 17 November 2012 - 06:04 AM, said:

I have been a devoted Christian for many years, however, when you add the Ancient Alien Theory to the Biblical story... It all starts to make complete sense... These ancient people had no reference points to accurately describe what they were witnessing. Anyone who lived in those times would have referred these aliens to being gods and angels...

It is hard to dismiss sightings from several hundred years apart from several different continents.  People that were living 2000, 3000 years ago were unsophisticated and they explained things in terms that were familiar to them.  Ezekiel's wheel is a good example.


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Posted 16 January 2013 - 12:06 AM

View PostHarte, on 15 January 2013 - 11:26 PM, said:

You don't seem so silent in the forum.  This thread is just not worth the time it takes to argue.

Sorry, my wording was bad. I was meaning this thread, the last 50 or more pages I have had little to say, but much to read.

View PostHarte, on 15 January 2013 - 11:26 PM, said:

I said I was giving up and I am.  But not on reading it, just on responding to the ridiculous claims made ad nauseum.

You are a smart man, and I am going to endeavour to follow your footsteps.

View PostHarte, on 15 January 2013 - 11:26 PM, said:

Your posts are also greatly appreciated.  I remember when this forum was rife with Zosers.  Sometimes I felt like I was the only one fighting.  But of course I wasn't.  We were just outnumbered.  I'm sure you remember times like that here as well.

Thank you, quite a compliment coming from you I must say. I certainly remember the times. It helped mould my skeptical outlook. I was purely amazed in some of the tripe some seemingly intelligent people gobbled up.

View PostHarte, on 15 January 2013 - 11:26 PM, said:

As far as learning, I don't think I've learned much.  I don't believe anyone, including Davidovits, can dissolve a stone and then reconstitute it back into the original stone, or into stone indistiguishable from natural stone.  And melting not only won't work, it doesn't even make sense.

I have learned of new depths of the credulous. However, Abe's posts in plant interaction and reaction was most interesting  and of course, I think I have thoroughly enjoyed all the information that Oniomancer has provided. Some different aspects and angles I had not thought of, but all pointing at the same conclusion. Normally I would duck over the the Alternative HIstory thread to witch all of you in action, I feel somewhat spoiled with you all here on the doorstep.

View PostHarte, on 15 January 2013 - 11:26 PM, said:

I will say the vids of Protzen at work were new to me (though I'd read some of his stuff on Heiser's website.)  I certainly appreciate those.

I will have to backtrack, due to my hatred of Youtube I did not see them. This thread did however prompt me to get a hold of Chris Whites program.

View PostHarte, on 15 January 2013 - 11:26 PM, said:

I can also appreciate the effort required to respond here the way many others have.  I still think it's a waste of time, though, since the point always seems to be to bring Zoser around to the real world and that (it seems) is just not gonna happen.

Harte

Indeed, that is what I find frustrating, all this effort for one individual that does not appreciate it. Thankfully, many others have managed to find value in the extensive information provided.

Things are what they are. - Me Reality can't be debunked. That's the beauty of it. - Capeo 'If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.' - Sir Isaac Newton. "Let me repeat the lesson learned from the Sturrock scientific review panel: Pack up your old data and forget it. Ufology needs new data, new cases, new rigorous and scientific methodologies if it hopes ever to get out of its pit." Ed Stewart. Youtube is the last refuge of the ignorant and is more often used for disinformation than genuine research.  There is a REASON for PEER REVIEW... - Chrlzs. Nothing is inexplicable, just unexplained. - Sir Wearer of Hats.


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Posted 16 January 2013 - 12:33 AM

View Postpsyche101, on 16 January 2013 - 12:06 AM, said:

I will have to backtrack, due to my hatred of Youtube I did not see them. This thread did however prompt me to get a hold of Chris Whites program.

I don't care for youtube either.  The vids of Protzen are posted on a different site (videopedia), not youtube.

No need to backtrack.  I know a good thing to save when I see it: link.

It strikes me that me saying I don't like youtube (just like you) is like the scene from Beetlejuice where he's trying to ingratiate himself with the Maitland's ghosts:

"Sandworms. You hate 'em right? I hate them myself!"

I started a thread on White's vids in the Ancient History section.  Guess you missed it?

Harte

Edited by Harte, 16 January 2013 - 12:34 AM.

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