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#5116    S2F

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:01 PM

View PostHarte, on 17 January 2013 - 09:59 PM, said:

No westerner ever spoke to the builders of Puma Punku so your argument is flawed there.

The Inca came after the culture that built PP, hence their statement that they didn't build it.

Whoever did, they left behind evidence of agricultural and irrigation systems that would befit a hundred thousand people or more, along with the accompanying artifacts.

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More than enough to employ quite a large workforce if necessary.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:05 PM

View PostTheOtherSide1945, on 17 January 2013 - 09:56 PM, said:

hmmm, most of this is from egypt and its the same thing we dont know how they built that. the russian ones they used manpower for so much but most of the transport was done by ship. not up the side of a mountain.

we dont know eh? go back 150 pages or so for the discussion on pyramids

Now, enjoy 6 mins of one man moving huge and heavy stones. Yes, one man,



Edited by seeder, 17 January 2013 - 10:06 PM.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:10 PM

ok i concede ancient man could have done everything. if so, they had advanced knowledge of engineering. they also had advanced knowledge of astronomy. why then, are they making monuments and worshipping false gods that come from the stars? why are the ancient Sumerians talking about gods using machines to alter genetics? if they are so smart they should know that there werent gods that came from the sky. why are they making these giant structures to worship "gods?" why are they obbsessed about kings being from the same blood as gods that came from the sky?

Edited by TheOtherSide1945, 17 January 2013 - 10:15 PM.


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Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:12 PM

View Postseeder, on 17 January 2013 - 10:05 PM, said:

we dont know eh? go back 150 pages or so for the discussion on pyramids

Now, enjoy 6 mins of one man moving huge and heavy stones. Yes, one man,



still not up the side of a mountain. but i give up.


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Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:13 PM

View Postzoser, on 16 January 2013 - 07:13 PM, said:

Evening all.  Just in the middle of some research and found this:

Look at the circular cut outs at the beginning then stop the video at 0:08.

This is extraction of stone in a clay like state.  It is seen time and time again all over out crops in Peru.  Something softened the stone (heat), then some reasonably sharp implement sliced into it and extracted whole blocks at a time.

That explains why the remaining rock on the outcrop is finished to a high quality and virtrified  No other reason for them to finish remaining rock with straight edges like this.

Finally solved the mystery of what those weird cut outs are!  

Haven't had time to review any posts from today; may get back to them later.

Check this out.



0:47, "The curves at the corners, they're not sharp angles They're always a gentle curve"

That argues against power tools and makes the "precision" rather questionable.

And before I forget,


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I hadn't noticed before, that looks an awful lot like a saw cut to facilitate that vertical fracture in the background. (not the smaller one on the cut itself) Notice it almost indents into the rock ever so slightly. If that's the case, it's conceivable this "glaze" is  the remains of an abrasive slurry, possibly effected by friction. I've had something similar happen with certain rocks while using a grinder.

Edited by Oniomancer, 17 January 2013 - 10:20 PM.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:17 PM

View PostTheOtherSide1945, on 17 January 2013 - 10:12 PM, said:

still not up the side of a mountain. but i give up.

have you researched this subject, or used google to ask questions? Was it a big mountain? How high? How steep? Where were the rivers? How big was the work force?  Dont give up, look into it for yourself.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:18 PM

View Postseeder, on 17 January 2013 - 09:16 PM, said:

Hope you liked that post Abe?

I did, but I am convinced many others did not.


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Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:20 PM

View Postsynchronomy, on 17 January 2013 - 06:24 PM, said:

This thread seams to be taking the long and winding road.
Are yuo saying John Lennon was an alien?

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:22 PM

View Postseeder, on 17 January 2013 - 10:17 PM, said:

have you researched this subject, or used google to ask questions? Was it a big mountain? How high? How steep? Where were the rivers? How big was the work force?  Dont give up, look into it for yourself.

Independent verification is the hallmark of a good researcher. Don't take what you read here as gospel TOS (if you'll pardon the pun considering recent topics), by all means, look into it yourself. Just don't give ancient man a raw deal by underestimating him. :tu:

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:24 PM

View Postseeder, on 17 January 2013 - 10:17 PM, said:

have you researched this subject, or used google to ask questions? Was it a big mountain? How high? How steep? Where were the rivers? How big was the work force?  Dont give up, look into it for yourself.

ok i concede. ancient man could have done everything. if so, they had advanced knowledge of engineering. they also had advanced knowledge of astronomy. why then, are they making monuments and worshipping false gods that come from the stars? why are the ancient Sumerians talking about gods using machines to alter genetics? if they are were so smart they should know that there werent gods that came from the sky. why are they making these giant structures to worship "gods?" why are they obsessed about kings being from the same blood as gods that came from the sky?

Edited by TheOtherSide1945, 17 January 2013 - 10:27 PM.


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Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:29 PM

View PostTheOtherSide1945, on 17 January 2013 - 10:24 PM, said:

ok i concede. ancient man could have done everything. if so, they had advanced knowledge of engineering. they also had advanced knowledge of astronomy. why then, are they making monuments and worshipping false gods that come from the stars? why are the ancient Sumerians talking about gods using machines to alter genetics? if they are were so smart they should know that there werent gods that came from the sky. why are they making these giant structures to worship "gods?" why are they obbsessed about kings being from the same blood as gods that came from the sky?

Religion and spirituality don't necessarily have anything to do with intellect. In some cases, like Egypt, where the pharaohs were considered divine it gave them a measure of power over the populace. Is it then any wonder that those in power would want to perpetuate such things? Don't forget too that religion had a meaningful place among the ancients as a way to help explain the world around them, it was comforting (even if illusory) to think you had a reason for everything.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:35 PM

View PostThe Id3al Experience, on 17 January 2013 - 08:49 PM, said:

Considering Acient man had NO IDEA of advanced technology - In my opinion the AA theroy is far more beleivable than a real God.
Define "advanced technology" - as "concrete" is advanced technology to some of the ancients. The Gutenberg press is advanced technology. Hell, making fire by rubbing two sticks together is advanced technology at some time and yet, they were all concieved of eventually.

Ancient man wasn't an idiot.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:35 PM

View PostLord Vetinari, on 17 January 2013 - 09:27 AM, said:

Several million, in fact, in Spanish speaking countries. But need that be proof that there was not a Yeshua ben Yosef in Galilee who was a charismatic preacher and was executed by the Roman authorities fir sedition in the first century CE, as I believe they now call it? But anyway, surely it's one thing to argue that the suggestion that the one in question may have been an ET is perhaps, somewhat imaginative, but then to go on to explian how Experts have proved that Jesus never existed at all is to go into the realms that are more than adequately covered by other areas.


My reasoning is simple. If we cannot even show which one of these man was Jesus, can the real alien please step forward?

The hypothesis is building a fantasy on a fantasy. That is the point I am trying to illustrate. We do not even have a starting point on this one.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:37 PM

View Postseeder, on 17 January 2013 - 10:15 AM, said:

But lets not drag this into a discussion on JC and his alleged alien connections pls. For sure this thread has taken enough twists and turns already, and as rightly said, there is a spirituality section for such discussions

I am almost ready to discuss the growth of a lemon tree after so many pages of the same question about rocks that has been answered many times.

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Posted 17 January 2013 - 10:37 PM

View PostWearer of Hats, on 17 January 2013 - 10:35 PM, said:

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Did you found more examples of Natives-Gods from sky/Europeans encounters?

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