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Crikey, on 25 January 2013 - 10:14 AM, said:

Logic it out mate, medieval villagers in Alton Priors noticed that UFO's (which they regarded as demons) seemed to be following invisible "trails" that took them over a set of stones in the area, so they uprooted them and buried them in the consecrated ground beneath the church in the hope that it'd put a stop to it.
But it disrupted the UFO "airways" system and the UFO's lost their bearings, resulting in the high incidence of crop circles and UFO sightings in the area that occur to the present day as the craft try to get back on course.

PS- a former manager of the Fylingdales early warning radar sytem went on public record to say that UFO's were attracted to the place by the radar- "We were so powerful that we got radar returns off the moon...we attracted UFO's"
So it seems UFO's are curious about any kinds of transmissions of any type or wavelength including those transmitted by ancient stones.

The FlyingDales were talking about UFO's which does not exclude natural phenomena. in fact one of the most famous UFO pictures to date have come from the Flyindales, and guess what. It's not an alien spacecraft.

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Crikey, on 25 January 2013 - 11:11 AM, said:

Guys, guys, remember the aliens don't want us to know they're here, which is why they disguise their beacons and ley lines etc.
Some people may be afraid to entertain the possibility of alien existence, but there'll always be fearless investigators who say "The aliens may fool others, but they're not going to fool us!"...

Why don't "they"want us to know they are here? How rude!

I reckon I know exactly why.

It makes the ETH easier to resolve. That seems to be the short and tall of it.


Afraid to entertain the possibility?

In an ET forum?

Seriously, are you quite mad? What absolute nonsense!

Edited by psyche101, 28 January 2013 - 04:47 AM.

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Crikey, on 26 January 2013 - 05:16 AM, said:

Yes I know, I've been in running battles with fundy cults and crackpots on the internet for the past 11 years, it's great fun busting their asses..



But staying on topic, I don't know if this has already been answered somewhere back in the 5,600 posts of this thread, but can anybody tell me why each stone in the Tokyo Imperial Palace jigsaw wall (below) is usually a different colour to the ones next to it?
I mean, if they all came from the same original big block in the quarry, why aren't they all the same colour and texture?

I already answered this for you you rude man. Most annoying part is I actually went to some trouble to make sure all points were conveyed clearly, yet you did not even have the decency to read it, you just keep asking the same stupid question. I can see why anything to do with Zoser might attract you!

Look up two blocks from the pretty lady in the middle. See the lichen peeling away. also, look at the chip in the rock two blocks to the right as you look at  the picture, the chips are the same colour as the other rocks used. Indicating weathering and plant growth to change the apparent colour. I cannot see you not being aware of the above, it is pretty clear in the picture, and as you have already refused to read the answer the first time, I do not expect you to comprehend it this time.
I also went to lengths to explain to you why rocks from the same quarry do not have the same colouring, in some cases due to geological layering. Your ignorance is somewhat astounding crikey. How the hell did you manage to get to 60 and not know this basic information?

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TheOtherSide1945, on 26 January 2013 - 09:12 AM, said:

heres one from a convert. lets please get something other than rocks as evidence...please I want to believe...again....

Just stay away form these nubag enthusiasts that think a cut rock is proof of ET. I mean for goodness sakes, if that is the case, then surely Coke a Cola is an ambrosia than can only have been concocted in the heavens!

The phenomena is very fascinating, and some cases do stump even the most ardent skeptic. Big names like Roswell tend to go no place because too many people have already "solved" them. Some amazing cases do indeed remain out there then even I, a cynical skeptic whom believers far and wide love to hate have to admit some cases are just too bizarre to be explained in conventional means, like Portage County, my personal conundrum. Some just take some hard thinking to work out, but some just defy conventional explanation.

As a skeptic, I say do not be disillusioned too soon. Because there are so many people in the field that will take advantage of it, it will have a lot of garbage to sort through, but personally I like to take the WOW! signal as in indication that it is not all in vain, and one day, we will get that gratification. I am just not so sure this has happened yet, maybe, but the evidence is slim to nothing, and a lot of people want you to believe so they can feel personal validation - comfort in numbers and all that. Nobody likes to feel like a crackpot, unless everyone is a crackpot. But that does not mean it is not a genuine and interesting pursuit. If people like Frank Drake, Carl Sagan, Brian Greene, Michio Kaku and Stephen Hawking can consider this a worthwhile pursuit of knowledge, then I think we can consider that at least one aspect of this pursuit is most certainly valid. We need more people like this, and less like Friedman, Greer and Lazar. Then we might actually start making some real progress.

There is much to keep us interested, just like I tell the believers, the goods ones anyways, just make sure your gunpowder is dry before you go to pull that trigger, or all we will get is a fizzer That is what we all have to do.

Unfortunately what you are seeing here is the bottom of the barrel. The worst that UFOlogy has to offer. Silly questions based on lies and ignorance. It is embarrassing I grant. But it is all part and parcel  Good and bad. These people will exist no matter how much information is given, we could use a time machine to go back and film it, and stil these people would remain stubborn. Yet still, somehow Zechariah Stichin and Daniken will continue to live on in people like Giorgio Tsoukalos. He will lie and make things up to sell his television show, and keep enough people interested enough to get the producers to pay for another season. What does confound me is when his mysteries are resolved, why some refuse to accept a real world answer, and pretend the mystery remains.
Once the ETH  is separated into the kooks and the real world, that is the Daniken's VS the Sagan's we see the phenomena for that it really is, and half of it is pretty interesting. But half of it is so dismally silly that their tin fil hat syndrome tends to overcome, Mostly because the worst that UFOLogy has to offer tends to make it into mainstream entertainment, where the highest exposure is managed. That gives people the impression that tin foil hats and UFOLogy go hand in hand, when really, what we have is a science apartheid.

Do not worry mate. there is plenty to keep you scratching your head. Despite what believers tell you, skeptics do not care if believers are wrong right, or never existed at all. All skeptics care about is the genuine 1%, and dismiss the 99% woo woo. I guess a skeptics believe  but in a concentrated from. Not everything that he hears, but what is plasuble. That is the real difference between skeptics and believers and why most tend to favour natural phenomena. Most believers treat this like a religion. It is not. It is simply information. Like anything else. An easy way to spot a believer is to look for the amount of emotion put into an explanation vs actual information.

Edited by psyche101, 28 January 2013 - 05:31 AM.

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Slave2Fate, on 26 January 2013 - 10:13 AM, said:

topsecretresearch, what exactly is the correlation between the different ideas that you have presented? Where is the evidence, or at least logic that takes you from point 'A' to point 'B'? Flooding the thread with pics isn't getting your point across I'm afraid.

I think the ideal that TSR is ripping of here can be filled in with details from David Ickes Website.

Now there is a reference for a vote of confidence! Good old I see reptillians everywhere Icke.

Although, now that we are getting down to the most dubious and ridiculous sources associated with the phenomena, is there much further this direction of AA can go?

Yep, the train is full steam ahead.

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Babe Ruth, on 26 January 2013 - 02:17 PM, said:

You are so right about Wikky Pedia and orthodox 'science'.  Wikky can certainly be useful, but its accuracy is highly suspect in my book.  

That is why links exist at the bottom of the page. So you can check the sources, and therefore the accuracy of what has been presented. Wikipedia is a great springboard to knowledge.

Babe Ruth, on 26 January 2013 - 02:17 PM, said:

Orthodox science is more about patting each other on the back than finding answers and explanations.

Such stuff and nonsense. Peer review exists to remove personal bias. The Homo Florensis battle is a perfect example that science is not at all about accepting anything at face value.

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seeder, on 26 January 2013 - 02:30 PM, said:

wasnt it Myles who stated 20 universities check the accuracy of Wiki?

Someone one re-wrote part of an article on Wikipedia about Kazakhstan and named Borat as ruler. I am sure it took less then 3 minutes before the moderators were onto it, and fixed the erroneous joke entry.

Not bad I would say. In fact, a record I bet most web operators would be envious of.

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Crikey, on 26 January 2013 - 05:25 PM, said:

Add Ayers Rock to the list mate-

What tribe calles Uluru and Megalithic site?

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Kuniya, the woma python, lived in the rocks at Uluru where she fought the Liru, the poisonous snake.

Traditional peoples say it's just a bunch of rocks. The only creation myth that comes close is another retelling of legend whereby two boys make a mud pile and it is known as Uluru, it does not qualify in any way.

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Wearer of Hats, on 26 January 2013 - 08:50 PM, said:

First of all, show some respect to the Indigenous People.
Secondly, if they use any rock as a mystical navigation aid, then why feel the need to make shapes out of them elsewhere?

It is funny to see someone claim Uluru is a Megalithic site, when they do now even know the real name of it.

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DingoLingo, on 26 January 2013 - 02:13 PM, said:

zoser.. please come back.. at least you come across a little more intelligent then TSR..

Damn.

Splitting hairs now mate.

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Lord Vetinari, on 27 January 2013 - 09:01 PM, said:

look, I'm not supposed to know how it's supposed to work, am I? That's just the theory, basically. People are so pedantic. I love the way that they spend so much time & effort pulling apart everyone's ideas but their own, but they don't have any ideas of their own, since all they do is deny everything.

I think the cases here "against" Have been more than sufficient and well presented. As such, I'm not following you here.

Fact is, of stones radiate something, it's a bit preposterous to say they radiate a signal than man cannot detect. That's just making stuff up on the spot to suit a crackpot theory and resolves nothing.

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By Grabthar's hammer, psyche!

If I ever completely loose it and start blurting drivel about ancient rock aliens (and I don't mean the Rolling Stones), just drop a boulder on my head and save yourself the trouble.

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theSOURCE, on 28 January 2013 - 06:38 AM, said:

By Grabthar's hammer, psyche!

If I ever completely loose it and start blurting drivel about ancient rock aliens (and I don't mean the Rolling Stones), just drop a boulder on my head and save yourself the trouble.

LOL, only if you promise to do the same mate! Should I ever lose my mind completely and become an AA'er, it would be considered s service

In the meantime we can drink scotch and listen to Rolling Stones

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psyche101, on 28 January 2013 - 07:09 AM, said:

LOL, only if you promise to do the same mate! Should I ever lose my mind completely and become an AA'er, it would be considered s service

In the meantime we can drink scotch and listen to Rolling Stones

You have my word, my friend.

Cheers mate!

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Lord Vetinari, on 27 January 2013 - 03:13 PM, said:

Sat  nav would presuppose that you had exact data about every metre of the planet, and that therefore you'd thoroughly mapped it already. If, however, it was found that naturally occuring "beacons", such as energy focii, could be used for finding your way about a planet that you were exploring or had business on, would that necessarily be a completely Preposterous idea?

No it's a perfectly valid idea. Like I mentioned earlier, "aliens" might come not from "out there" in the universe, but from other dimensions, and when they "portal through" to earth their eyes may not see the same way as human eyes do, so they need pre-laid beacons (disguised as ancient stones etc) to get around.
In fact "jigsaw walls" might even be star maps.
(that's just the basic bare bones of the theory, it obviously needs fleshing out more by fearlessly open-minded researchers..

For example here's the constellation Orion in the Imperial Palace Wall, Tokyo

Edited by Crikey, 28 January 2013 - 08:08 AM.